It’s the 2018 draft. Darnold stays in school and the Giants win a couple more games sliding down to four. The first three picks are Rosen, Barkley, and Fitzpatrick. Who do you pick? And trading down is not an option.
The Giants Select Bradley Chubb DE NC State
But even at 4, though I'm in on Mayfield there, I think we are getting into Nelson/Williams/OL territory IMO.
And we have a greater need to churn at least one solid young OL into the lineup to replace the dynamic likes of Pugh/Jerry/the best RT in the NFL.
And if we could get Price in the 2nd........wooooooooooo!!!
He was neck and neck with Goff at Cal performance-wise and neck and neck w/Mahomes at TT. If he touched up his accuracy and muscle-memory'd NFL drops he can be very good. This is a golden opportunity to either fleece a team desperate for a QB or just "hold your water' & take the blue chip G or DE.
No way in hell do I take a guard at 4, no chance.
2. OC Billy Price
3. LB Uchenna Nwosu
4. FS Van Smith
4. LB Azeem Victor
5. RB Myles Gaskin
6. OG Alex Bars
First paragraph says he's the likely Heisman winner.
The curse of the Heisman.
Especially after that Wisconsin RB...or was it Ron Dayne ;-).
First paragraph says he's the likely Heisman winner.
The curse of the Heisman.
Especially after that Wisconsin RB...or was it Ron Dayne ;-).
Supposed to be Ut oh!!!!
Fitzpatrick w Collins would be awesome too. The Webb pick irked me more than bothered as there OL there. The line is even thinner now. Even worse it will be a total waste as if they do pick 2nd it will be a QB unless some Herschel Walker like offer materializes.
New GM has his work cut out.
Nelson.
I tend to agree old friend. What floors me is regular BBI posters wanting to piss away a top 5 pick on a freaking guard! Why not a great kicker? We need one!
2. When evaluating a position's worth to your team, this is what you do: Find out the average salary of the very top (10 maybe) players at that position's salary. Then compare that to other positions average top salaries. Now you have a clear picture of a player/positional value to your team.
3. Need picks are fine in day 2 or 3.
Fitzpatrick w Collins would be awesome too. The Webb pick irked me more than bothered as there OL there. The line is even thinner now. Even worse it will be a total waste as if they do pick 2nd it will be a QB unless some Herschel Walker like offer materializes.
New GM has his work cut out.
Picking Webb is unfortunate, but I guarantee you that they never at any moment concived of the possibility that they might be in position to have a top 3 pick in what might be the best draft for QBs since 2004. No one will mind (or remember) the Webb pick if they end up with a Jackson or a Rosen or a Mayfield.
No. He’s in another category - one of the most underrated.
I’m not kidding. I could see Belichick taking him. I think he’s going to fall, like Rodgers, and make a lot of people ask, “What did we miss?”
I agree. So much rides on how the new staff feels about Webb.
Ndamukong Suh used to throw offensive lineman around at Nebraska.
Is it the leftover of Rosen/Darnold?
Jackson and his stellar physical upside?
Same with Allen?
Mayfield and his fire and accuracy?
3 out of 5 will likely bust, finding the right guy is the 100M dollar question.
His upside is a more athletic Drew Brees. I'll take that.
Just so we're clear, you can pretend that we win two more games, and that winning two more games ONLY drops us to 4th (even though it probably results in a larger drop than that), but no one can offer up "trade down" as a possibility because it makes your fictional exercise no fun.
Got it.
Next up, by the power of Greyskull, He-Man has...? Only on-topic answers will be accepted. We cannot have the fun of this exercise be compromised at any cost.
Serious question - who is Brown?
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or Williams. My first inclination is Nelson.
Serious question - who is Brown?
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma
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But it supposes someone makes you an acceptable offer. Also for the sake of this exercise it’s no fun.
Just so we're clear, you can pretend that we win two more games, and that winning two more games ONLY drops us to 4th (even though it probably results in a larger drop than that), but no one can offer up "trade down" as a possibility because it makes your fictional exercise no fun.
Got it.
Next up, by the power of Greyskull, He-Man has...? Only on-topic answers will be accepted. We cannot have the fun of this exercise be compromised at any cost.
Are you dense or just a jerk?
The point of the exercise is to game out different scenarios that might develop, especially one that might not go in a direction we would like so you can play out different options. When you do War gaming or any other exercises you have to bound your potential scenarios or it isn’t helpful because you get into the realm of anything is possible.
With Barkley, I saw a Rutgers defense take away Barkley’s game. Rutgers stopped Barkley; a clearly inferior team. How does he go that high?
Go with whoever grades highest of OL/DL/LB
Forget about RB's , can be had anywhere. Look at KC & NO
Get Jackson in rd 2
x 1000. Wherever I pick round 1, I take him. He reads the field like Brees; buys time like Wilson but has a better arm and throws on the run much like Rodgers. He doesn't miss throws. Yeah he's an asshole, so what? Brady is an asshole too. A guy his size needs to play with a sizable chip on his shoulder. Imagine having a QB who can buy another 4-5 seconds with Engram and Beckham on the field! You can't stop that.
Go with whoever grades highest of OL/DL/LB
Forget about RB's , can be had anywhere. Look at KC & NO
Get Jackson in rd 2
Come on man. Jackson isn’t going to be there in the 2nd round. You want Nelson in the 3rd? Maybe Chubb in the 4th?
With Barkley, I saw a Rutgers defense take away Barkley’s game. Rutgers stopped Barkley; a clearly inferior team. How does he go that high?
Zack Martin might go 3 4 if that draft was re done. Nelson is bigger and maybe even projected higher as a NFL player. It's still a crap shoot. But w he old GM sand staff they'd pass up an Anthony Munoz for a play maker type. And for all The people who say you do that every time Megatron and Julio Jones and Aj Green have how many SuperBowl wins?
Too bad we have to replace Eli immediately...
No team should ever suffer more than 1 ass clown.
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He’d have to be as good as Larry Allen to be drafted with the 4th pick. And how many guards have been as good as Larry Allen in the last 20 years?
With Barkley, I saw a Rutgers defense take away Barkley’s game. Rutgers stopped Barkley; a clearly inferior team. How does he go that high?
Zack Martin might go 3 4 if that draft was re done. Nelson is bigger and maybe even projected higher as a NFL player. It's still a crap shoot. But w he old GM sand staff they'd pass up an Anthony Munoz for a play maker type. And for all The people who say you do that every time Megatron and Julio Jones and Aj Green have how many SuperBowl wins?
As many as Zach Martin. The best tackles in the game Tyron Smith, Joe Thomas, Jason Peters, Trent Williams, Whitworth all have zero Super Bowl wins. Go down the list of guards, led by Martin and it’s the same thing. Zero Super Bowls.
Why is it always ok to kill WRs for not single handidly winning Super Bowls on this site while ignoring the fact that you could say that about every single position other than QB?
Nope
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or Williams. My first inclination is Nelson.
Serious question - who is Brown?
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma
Ah, got it. Is he worthy of a top five pick though? I know there's a lot of green between here and the draft, but I don't think I've seen him considered that high in any mocks (for whatever they're worth).
And Conor Williams is barely a 1st round pick right now