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Reb8thVA : 12/8/2017 8:02 pm
It’s the 2018 draft. Darnold stays in school and the Giants win a couple more games sliding down to four. The first three picks are Rosen, Barkley, and Fitzpatrick. Who do you pick? And trading down is not an option.

The Giants Select Bradley Chubb DE NC State
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Connor  
cokeduplt : 12/8/2017 8:03 pm : link
Williams probably. Maybe Baker Mayfield
Take Nelson and be done with it for the next 10 years  
gtt350 : 12/8/2017 8:08 pm : link
.
Mayfield  
Joey in VA : 12/8/2017 8:09 pm : link
And I don't think about it for a hot second.
Nelson in that scenario....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 12/8/2017 8:11 pm : link
....but we are a lock for the #2 pick. We won't another game until September 2018.
Mayfield is boom or bust.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/8/2017 8:11 pm : link
And I have no clue which one it is, which scares the hell out of me.
Why wouldn't trading down be an option?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/8/2017 8:13 pm : link
Tough to remove it from the list of possibilities at that draft position.
I'd go with Chubb  
Bill in TN : 12/8/2017 8:15 pm : link
unless evals change in the next few months. OL can be had in round 2.
I  
AcidTest : 12/8/2017 8:23 pm : link
would trade down if we don't take a QB, and might do so even if Rosen or Darnold are available. But it's all moot if we don't finish with the #2 pick, or Darnold stays in school. It's going to be wild until next April.
Pray Mayfield is there  
Default : 12/8/2017 8:28 pm : link
He's gonna be a star
We would all trade down in that situation  
Reb8thVA : 12/8/2017 8:28 pm : link
But it supposes someone makes you an acceptable offer. Also for the sake of this exercise it’s no fun.
It's plausible that  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/8/2017 8:31 pm : link
you don't get a good trade down offer. Especially if Darnold stays in school.

We tend to assume they can just press a button and cash in on a huge trade down.
That said  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/8/2017 8:33 pm : link
Mayfield scares the crap out of me. Huge bust potential.
Chubb  
WillVAB : 12/8/2017 8:33 pm : link
I’d love to go OL but you can’t pass on a premier edge rusher like Chubb. Getting a legit DE to phase JPP out could really impact the defense as a whole.

Just have to hope the new GM could actually hit on some late rounders to help out the OL.
RE: Mayfield is boom or bust.  
Vanzetti : 12/8/2017 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13730919 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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And I have no clue which one it is, which scares the hell out of me.


Bust.

Chubb  
ripdumaine : 12/8/2017 8:42 pm : link
Or Derwin James
I like Mayfield a lot  
Greg from LI : 12/8/2017 8:42 pm : link
And people whose football opinions I really respect, like Sy and B, like Mayfield a lot too. Gamble on greatness.
Nelson and  
gogiants : 12/8/2017 8:45 pm : link
have a our 1st multi year All-Pro since Michael Strahan.
Funny how your choices get better  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2017 8:49 pm : link
If you just don’t win anymore freaking games.

I’m all about restoring pride, winning attitude, et al. Let’s start that on 1/1/18 though.
Mayfield.  
MOOPS : 12/8/2017 8:49 pm : link
No question about it.
actually  
gogiants : 12/8/2017 8:51 pm : link
multiple multi-year all pros - Nelson, Collins, Snacks and hopefully Beckham
But yeah, in this case  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2017 8:51 pm : link
Mayfield is my guy.

GM - Kirchner
Coach - Bevell
QB - Mayfield

Would be just fine with me.
I'd go with the best OL, but I'm not sure whether that's Nelson, Brown  
yatqb : 12/8/2017 9:16 pm : link
or Williams. My first inclination is Nelson.
Win a couple more games  
old man : 12/8/2017 9:20 pm : link
We may likely draft 6; Denver, Colts, Bears likely have 1 win among them.
But even at 4, though I'm in on Mayfield there, I think we are getting into Nelson/Williams/OL territory IMO.
And we have a greater need to churn at least one solid young OL into the lineup to replace the dynamic likes of Pugh/Jerry/the best RT in the NFL.
And if we could get Price in the 2nd........wooooooooooo!!!
Easy  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 9:28 pm : link
Lamar Jackson,QB Louisville
Bradley Chubb  
Powerclean765 : 12/8/2017 9:32 pm : link
Think the Giants would be nuts not to give Webb the next try. Tall, laser arm, tight spiral..football junkie. Film rat. Seems to have been a sponge to Eli. Seems to me to have the It Factor and some leadership skills. Good prospect for Giants football. I've been thrilled with his attitude and work ethic. I'm not sure what else you're looking for in a prospect.

He was neck and neck with Goff at Cal performance-wise and neck and neck w/Mahomes at TT. If he touched up his accuracy and muscle-memory'd NFL drops he can be very good. This is a golden opportunity to either fleece a team desperate for a QB or just "hold your water' & take the blue chip G or DE.
Nelson  
hd9009 : 12/8/2017 9:36 pm : link
Fix the OL
If the Giants  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 9:42 pm : link
were confident in Webb, I'd go with Chubb also.
No way in hell do I take a guard at 4, no chance.
I like  
mattyblue : 12/8/2017 9:43 pm : link
what I see from Mayfield. I actually met him in the early fall. One thing that stands out me is there is zero chance he is 6’ 1, he is way shorter, my guess would be about 5’ 10, which is what my friend also said was common knowledge by the coaches. Maybe everyone adds a few inches to their listed height, I don’t know. But if not Eli would be a giant compared to him.
Nelson  
hd9009 : 12/8/2017 9:45 pm : link
Fix the OL
Mock  
adamg : 12/8/2017 9:46 pm : link
1. QB Baker Mayfield
2. OC Billy Price
3. LB Uchenna Nwosu
4. FS Van Smith
4. LB Azeem Victor
5. RB Myles Gaskin
6. OG Alex Bars
Ut ohlll  
old man : 12/8/2017 10:11 pm : link
I just read the thread on the article on Mayfield.
First paragraph says he's the likely Heisman winner.
The curse of the Heisman.
Especially after that Wisconsin RB...or was it Ron Dayne ;-).
I don't accept the premise  
joeinpa : 12/8/2017 10:13 pm : link
Giants have 2cnd pick at the moment.
RE: Ut ohlll  
old man : 12/8/2017 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13731035 old man said:
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I just read the thread on the article on Mayfield.
First paragraph says he's the likely Heisman winner.
The curse of the Heisman.
Especially after that Wisconsin RB...or was it Ron Dayne ;-).


Supposed to be Ut oh!!!!
If they wind up w 4 via trade  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/8/2017 10:21 pm : link
Or record Nelson. Need him more than Chubb as much as I'd live to dump both JPP and Vernon's bloated contracts. Both at least are good players. Just overpaid. The need for an anchor for that OL is desperate.

Fitzpatrick w Collins would be awesome too. The Webb pick irked me more than bothered as there OL there. The line is even thinner now. Even worse it will be a total waste as if they do pick 2nd it will be a QB unless some Herschel Walker like offer materializes.

New GM has his work cut out.
It comes down to OL or DL  
Rjanyg : 12/8/2017 10:27 pm : link
Nelson is a monster. Pancakes would be served on Sunday's. Chubb seems like a very good 2 way DE. Convention says go with the pass rusher but I have a feeling Nelson is the best player in the draft.

Nelson.
Lamar Jackson  
Go Terps : 12/8/2017 10:43 pm : link
Best player in the draft.
Jackson is the best player in the draft but not the best QB.  
Ivan15 : 12/8/2017 10:58 pm : link
Best athlete yes. Best RB maybe. Best QB no!
RE: Lamar Jackson  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13731051 Go Terps said:
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Best player in the draft.


I tend to agree old friend. What floors me is regular BBI posters wanting to piss away a top 5 pick on a freaking guard! Why not a great kicker? We need one!
Solid draft advice:  
mrvax : 12/8/2017 11:06 pm : link
1. Never make your 1st pick a pure need pick unless it's for a franchise-type QB.

2. When evaluating a position's worth to your team, this is what you do: Find out the average salary of the very top (10 maybe) players at that position's salary. Then compare that to other positions average top salaries. Now you have a clear picture of a player/positional value to your team.

3. Need picks are fine in day 2 or 3.
..  
Dodge : 12/8/2017 11:09 pm : link
Mayfield and feel good.
RE: If they wind up w 4 via trade  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/9/2017 12:13 am : link
In comment 13731043 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Or record Nelson. Need him more than Chubb as much as I'd live to dump both JPP and Vernon's bloated contracts. Both at least are good players. Just overpaid. The need for an anchor for that OL is desperate.

Fitzpatrick w Collins would be awesome too. The Webb pick irked me more than bothered as there OL there. The line is even thinner now. Even worse it will be a total waste as if they do pick 2nd it will be a QB unless some Herschel Walker like offer materializes.

New GM has his work cut out.


Picking Webb is unfortunate, but I guarantee you that they never at any moment concived of the possibility that they might be in position to have a top 3 pick in what might be the best draft for QBs since 2004. No one will mind (or remember) the Webb pick if they end up with a Jackson or a Rosen or a Mayfield.
RE: Lamar Jackson  
bw in dc : 12/9/2017 12:37 am : link
In comment 13731051 Go Terps said:
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Best player in the draft.


No. He’s in another category - one of the most underrated.

I’m not kidding. I could see Belichick taking him. I think he’s going to fall, like Rodgers, and make a lot of people ask, “What did we miss?”

Id say  
blueblood : 12/9/2017 12:41 am : link
Lamar Jackson or Chubb at this point. QB's are going to move around a bit after the college season ends..
RE: Id say  
mrvax : 12/9/2017 12:46 am : link
In comment 13731180 blueblood said:
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Lamar Jackson or Chubb at this point. QB's are going to move around a bit after the college season ends..


I agree. So much rides on how the new staff feels about Webb.
ND's Nelson throws defensive lineman around like ...  
Manny in CA : 12/9/2017 1:42 am : link

Ndamukong Suh used to throw offensive lineman around at Nebraska.
Bradley Chubb is an awesome selection...  
M.S. : 12/9/2017 6:35 am : link
...but the pick has to be Baker Mayfield.
I'd probably gamble with Mayfield. Remember yoiu still  
Blue21 : 12/9/2017 8:10 am : link
have Webb if Mayfield Implodes
would have to workout a trade down  
micky : 12/9/2017 9:07 am : link
in this case..period
Fortunately (or unfortunately) there is no way we pick #4  
Jimmy Googs : 12/9/2017 9:12 am : link
unless our defense keeps putting up pick-6s...
the tougher question is if they pick at 2  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/9/2017 9:24 am : link
Which QB do they take?

Is it the leftover of Rosen/Darnold?

Jackson and his stellar physical upside?

Same with Allen?

Mayfield and his fire and accuracy?

3 out of 5 will likely bust, finding the right guy is the 100M dollar question.
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