Stanton to Yanks �making progress�

im okay with it as long as they don't give up glibber. Saw suggested hicks, floral, and at least one fo ellsbury, gardner, or headley to shed some salary. Judge-Sanchez-Stanton What a 2-3-4 that would be.

They dont need another high power strikeout guy.

The Marlins are selling high

But if it does, the Yankees will be friggin terrifying in their lineup

Fucking do it cash.

Stanton is coming off a career year and in all likelihood it's all downhill for him from here. I'd rather they waited a year and then went all in on Bryce Harper. Harper is five years younger, hits from the left side of the plate and for a much higher BA. He may cost $100M more over the next ten years, but the anticipated greater productivity over the full length of the contract will be worth it. And Harper won't cost them two or three of their top prospects.

If they're gonna give up the likes of Adams and Frazier, I'd rather it be for Gerrit Cole. And then add Harper next year. Patience is a virtue.

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Sources: The Yankees recognize they�re in a position of significant strength right now. Same with Giancarlo Stanton, who can decide exactly where he wants to go and force a deal. And the Marlins ... well, the Marlins are trying to figure out how to best salvage an absolute mess.

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They dont need another high power strikeout guy. The Marlins are selling high

Give me a

FWIW....Morosi said Castro is one of the guys the Yankees are offering. Feinsand says they're talking but not close to a deal.

on a $197 mil payroll. This would be a surprise.

I hate these million year contracts.

We need pitching more than another bat (although it IS some bat). But with the FAs like Harper and Machado coming loose soon, why give up prospects for Stanton?

And where will they play him? LF? He doesn't have the range to do so, nor does Judge. DH? Not ideal, imo, although I suppose that if Gardner goes in the trade they could rotate a bunch of guys, including all the OFers and Sanchez, through that spot and LF.

Is that they'd be REALLY righty heavy with a 3 4 5 of Sanchez, Judge, and Stanton.

Still, that is one awe-inspiring heart of the order.

Stanton to NY with Miami chipping in a bit of money, and Clint Frazier, Starlin Castro (to replace Dee Gordon and offset some cost) + a lower level prospect or two. Something like that. I'm not completely sold on the move, but if they can land him AND stay under $197 million, it's hard to complain too much. You're adding Stanton and Torres to an already deep lineup, and can still spend big next offseason.

Stanton turned 28 years old last month. His remaining contract, which he opt out of after the 2020 season:

18:$25M, 19:$26M, 20:$26M, 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout)

That�s potentially a disastrous commitment to make, regardless of how good he is right now. You basically have to hope he opts out, which doesn�t seem to make any sense for him to do even if he�s at an MVP level after the 2020 season as he�ll be 30 years old. Can�t say it wouldn�t be fun to watch him in 2018 though

And the Yankees have prospects coming out of their ears right now.

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on a $197 mil payroll. This would be a surprise.

Kay was talking about it today. He didn't think it would happen. However, he was saying the marlins would have to take Castro,Gardner and Ellsbury who also a a full no trade clause. It would keep the Yanks under 197.

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He can see the writing on the wall. He's not going to play much for the Yankees going forward. If he wants to get on the field, he's going to have to be open to a trade, though maybe not to Miami.

The Metsies are shedding payroll. Historically poor offense that's returning Cabrera, a hole at 1B, 2B, hole in virtually all the OF positions.

It's okay though. We've added 90 relief pitchers for next season.

He's going to get a deal that makes Stanton's look like peanuts, and he gets banged up every year.

and take back Castro's $10 million - that means the Yankees are adding $15 million or so in the transaction. If they find a taker for Headley in a separate deal, or find a cheaper alternative to CC in the rotation, they can almost call it a wash. They'll make it work somehow.

until they find a way to ship out an expensive guy or two to offset his contract. And more importantly, until Stanton actually agrees to go to the Yankees. I'll believe it when I see it.

They're bringing Sabathia back so they're going to have Severino, Gray, Tanaka, Sabathia and Montgomery again, with Adams and German waiting in the wings. I wouldn't call that a weak group, and that doesn't even include a pen of Chapman, Green, Warren, Robertson, Kahnle, and a hopefully back on track Betances.

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yanks making progress on stanton deal but can't be absolutely sure if another team is/isnt involved. stanton also would waive no trade to dodgers, cubs and astros, as @CraigMish reported. dodgers have more $ hurdles than yanks. astros, cubs would seem less likely w/$295M to go.

That is Stanton�s remaining contract after his opt out year and this doesn�t include his likely final year club buyout for an additional $10M. Maybe I�m being overly conservative, it�s not my money after all, but his contract is really ridiculous.

None of the Yankees top prospects are being discussed. Sounds like this is gonna end up being a straight salary dump now that Stanton has erased any leverage the Marlins might have had by blocking those deals.

if it were to go down.. Its a lot of coin.. and how long does he play at a high level ?

Go for the throat. You don't pass up on adding the reigning MVP to a team that was one game from the Series because of worries about what's going to happen six or seven years from now.

The Red Sox will be compelled to go hard for Harper in the classic nuclear arms race . Save your resources for Harper. The Yanks won playoff games against the Indians and Astros in part because guys like Gardner grung out ABs. Top-heavy reliance on the long ball will become an even greater issue .

Cashman has had a weird start to the off-season .

But he is never going to be as good as Stanton is right now.

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if it were to go down.. Its a lot of coin.. and how long does he play at a high level ?

Depends on how many times he can visit Miami:)

I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility.

C'mon. You think Boston is just going to stand pat if the Yankees do?

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there's a belief marlins would like to do a trade by the winter meetings while teams still have $ to spend. teams are going to start spending next week. stanton/yanks are the one in positions of strength here.

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He can see the writing on the wall. He's not going to play much for the Yankees going forward. If he wants to get on the field, he's going to have to be open to a trade, though maybe not to Miami.

I agree. If he stays on the Yanks he will be the 4th outfielder. The days of him being a full time starter are gone.

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The Red Sox will be compelled to go hard for Harper in the classic nuclear arms race . Save your resources for Harper. The Yanks won playoff games against the Indians and Astros in part because guys like Gardner grung out ABs. Top-heavy reliance on the long ball will become an even greater issue . Cashman has had a weird start to the off-season .

I don't disagree. But for the Yankees, they might well look at it that in free agency there is no 100% certainty. Most people thought Ohtani was a lock to the Yankees. If they are staring at Stanton essentially being handed to them on a platter, and coming up so close but short of a World Series, they almost have to make this move, particularly if they aren't going to give anything up.

You've got four guys in the lineup with the potential to hit 30+ homers, 50+ for two of them. And it's not as if the rest of the lineup will be schmoes, either. You'll still have Didi and Hicks. You'll have Torres arriving soon, maybe Andujar.

Plenty of prime years left, and plenty of DH at-bats available to keep him fresh.

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I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility.

Ellsbury is the only really bad contract left on the books. Chase Headley blows and is way overpaid, but that mistake is a year away from being over and done with. I wouldn�t trade anyone of value just to dump Headley at this point.

than what's left on Stanton's contract.

and am still not pushing for it. However if you're gonna do it now is the time to swoop in. Jeter and the Marlins have really backed themselves into a corner. For the first time in his life Jeter is catching real criticism in baseball circles and that can't sit too well with him. The deals they were talking about with the Giants and Cards were not prospects on the Torres-Sheffield level at all. If its Castro and one of the OF's and b type prospects Its something you'd have to look at especially if you get rid of Ellsbury's contract. The thing about our prospects is you know Dembo knows exactly who to target.

Spin on the winter meetings as far as us Yankee fans go. Before this speculation, the Yanks were not going to be much active at the meetings.

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In comment 13731092 Matt in SGS said: Quote: I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility. Ellsbury is the only really bad contract left on the books. Chase Headley blows and is way overpaid, but that mistake is a year away from being over and done with. I wouldn�t trade anyone of value just to dump Headley at this point.

This is only a scenario for the Yankees to work out the numbers to get under the luxury tax threshhold per Hal's decree. If that is the case, the Yankees need to find that money somewhere and Headley a glaring target.

Which they can keep intact, or they can use to deal for another frontline starter.

I just don't see how you can pass up Stanton in a deal where you're not emptying the farm and instead hope that you can sign a free agent down the road, or because you think the last couple of years of Stanton's contract will be bad. I mean, we're talking about a guy who is only two years older than Judge and three years older than Sanchez. These guys are going to have several prime years together.

Machado-Didi-Gleyber-Bird-Sanchez around the horn, with Judge and Stanton in the corners - we might win a few games. But first things first.

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and am still not pushing for it. However if you're gonna do it now is the time to swoop in. Jeter and the Marlins have really backed themselves into a corner. For the first time in his life Jeter is catching real criticism in baseball circles and that can't sit too well with him. The deals they were talking about with the Giants and Cards were not prospects on the Torres-Sheffield level at all. If its Castro and one of the OF's and b type prospects Its something you'd have to look at especially if you get rid of Ellsbury's contract. The thing about our prospects is you know Dembo knows exactly who to target.

The Denbo angle is interesting

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than what's left on Stanton's contract.

Bingo. And much as I'd want Harper, the guy gets hurt almost every year because he plays like a madman.

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Machado-Didi-Gleyber-Bird-Sanchez around the horn, with Judge and Stanton in the corners - we might win a few games. But first things first.

I don't think Harper will be the target. I said yesterday I think the Yankees will want Machado.

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Stanton is coming off a career year and in all likelihood it's all downhill for him from here. I'd rather they waited a year and then went all in on Bryce Harper. Harper is five years younger, hits from the left side of the plate and for a much higher BA. He may cost $100M more over the next ten years, but the anticipated greater productivity over the full length of the contract will be worth it. And Harper won't cost them two or three of their top prospects. If they're gonna give up the likes of Adams and Frazier, I'd rather it be for Gerrit Cole. And then add Harper next year. Patience is a virtue.

You're math is off. Harper is only 3 years younger than Stanton.

If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever

this is not the NBA. Baseball players are a little quirkier in their choices as you saw with Ohtani. They don't necessarily gravitate towards the most $ or best situation to chase a title. Machado and Harper are far from sure things even if the Yanks go all in. Sometimes its as simple as something someone from the Yanks organization said to their dad 10 years ago to tee him off.

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If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever

Hence the need to get under the luxury tax this year and trade off Ellsbury and Headley to offset the Stanton deal. I don't think this move precludes them from going after Machado.

Honestly hadn't paid much mind to the idea of Stanton coming here. But the market has come back to us and it seems like it could be an opportunity we can't say no to. If you can do the deal without Gleyber, Florial, or Sheffield, it's a no brainer. Do it Cash.

was that Harper's dad is a massive Yankees fan and Bryce grew up a fan and wanted desperately to play for them. Which is swell and all, but he's not a kid anymore.

And, honestly, the Yankees generally avoid really outspoken guys with outsized personalities. Not to say that they haven't had some - David Wells, Gary Sheffield leap to mind - but in general they have low-key stars and have been that was since the early 90s.

Denbo knows our farm system better than anyone. Seems like this is eventually going to happen. Marlins appear to have no interest in bringing him back and Stanton has completely erased their leverage

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This would jive with the Castro name we've heard thrown out there tonight. I wonder if it's Castro and some lower level prospects that Denbo is aware of for Stanton.

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In comment 13731111 Dave in PA said: Quote: If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever Hence the need to get under the luxury tax this year and trade off Ellsbury and Headley to offset the Stanton deal. I don't think this move precludes them from going after Machado.

Is that just to reset the luxury tax at 20%? I use the word just pretty loosely, it�s a lot of $ on the line.

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pass on Stanton

that there's a way to keep Gardy. He's the perfect 4th OF, and after all these years I want him to be a part of the next Yankees powerhouse.

But the Marlins aren't shopping him. And as good as he is, he isn t Stanton.

and a great veteran presence. I'd push them on Castro and Ells. They might want Hicks though.

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He's going to get a deal that makes Stanton's look like peanuts, and he gets banged up every year.

The injuries are the big concern with Harper (and it's a very legitimate concern). Same as with Josh Rosen!

Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

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I'm sure Castro wouldn't mind swinging for the fences on a shit team while enjoying the wonders of South Beach.

He's only played more than 120 games 4 times in his career.

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Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

From the sound of it, might not take more than one of those guys, plus a B level prospect of two and Castro.

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Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

No way in hell I give them 2 of our best pitching prospects, not to mention they wouldn't be taking 1 dollar of major league salary back. Like you said we have them over a barrel.

The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton

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The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton

I saw that, too. And as others on Twitter are saying, he's the only guy reporting this and apparently he's wrong quite a bit. Guess we'll see.

until all Dodger scenarios have been exhausted.

I'm not a big Joel Sherman fan, but he definitely is plugged in and he's saying this is looking good.

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would be icing on the cake. Might have to live with Toe at 2B for a month or so, but who cares?

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In comment 13731131 Kyle in NY said: Quote: Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage No way in hell I give them 2 of our best pitching prospects, not to mention they wouldn't be taking 1 dollar of major league salary back. Like you said we have them over a barrel.

We now have a lot of promising pitchers in the system. And I'm not sure if they view Adams as highly as the prospect rankings do. If that package gets it done it's a no brainer. Also I was proposing including a veteran like Castro to offset money somewhat.

but he's gotta be piss drunk by now.

didn't see it coming and not sure how I feel about it. I thought we were done with albatross contracts. But next couple of years ... hell yeah!

the Yanks are still going to be good.

But yeah, I'd still prefer this happen, haha.

In comment 13731139 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13731138 Greg from LI said: Quote: The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton I saw that, too. And as others on Twitter are saying, he's the only guy reporting this and apparently he's wrong quite a bit. Guess we'll see.

He claimed Stanton wanted to go to San Fran then said Marlins were stuck with Stanton and he was going nowhere...

a middle of the lineup featuring Bird, Stanton, Judge and Sanchez? Murderers row revisited.

It would be Castro or headley

It would be Castro or headley

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sounds like yanks are planning on keeping gardner. if they get stanton, they'd likely rotate those two plus judge in the 2 corner OF spots plus dh.

The Yanks have to get rid of ellsbury. Either with the marlins or another team. Buster onley and Kay mentioned that they could include ellsbury in the Stanton deal and then release him so he would be a free agent. If that were to happen, wouldn't the Marlins still be on the hook for the rest of his salary? Why would they release him.

Jeter and his partners overextended themselves to buy the team and have to shed salary right away.

There aren't many teams that can afford Stanton. The Yankees can.

He nixes two deals.

They just hired Denbo, who knows the Yankees farm inside and out and they can feel more confident in their value than prospects from another org.

The Marlins really have no where else to turn at this point. Stanton cut their legs off by killing the STL and SF deals.

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yankees have tried to foist ellsbury on miami as an offset, but marlins are not agreeing to that one. castro or headley are seen as more likely at this point. they are working on it.

Gardy has always tended to wear down over the season, too, and he's no spring chicken. Playing 90-100 games instead of 150+ will keep him fresh.

Says on Twitter that it's a done deal. No clue how legit it is. Just saw someone post it.

One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else.

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One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else.

You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team.

if nothing else, the Yanks will have an even bigger media horde if they do this deal.

but he is pretty close with Jeter....

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Says on Twitter that it's a done deal. No clue how legit it is. Just saw someone post it.

I want to believe....but somehow I'm not sure how credible a source the King is

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In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team.

The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC.

Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna.

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In comment 13731161 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team. The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC. Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna.

There is literally no talk of anyone else on the team being traded, though. This is all about Stanton.

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The Yanks have to get rid of ellsbury. Either with the marlins or another team. Buster onley and Kay mentioned that they could include ellsbury in the Stanton deal and then release him so he would be a free agent. If that were to happen, wouldn't the Marlins still be on the hook for the rest of his salary? Why would they release him.

Sepends if the Marlins eat any of Stanton�s salary or not. If anything, in a situation where Ellsbury and no real upside prospects go to Miami, you could see the Yankees eating some of Ellbury�s deal to get it done, unless Miami was willing to pay $68M of Stanton�s remaining contract to dump him.

Mantle and Maris in '61 - competing for the HR title (and record?).

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In comment 13731166 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 13731161 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team. The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC. Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna. There is literally no talk of anyone else on the team being traded, though. This is all about Stanton.

He's clearly their most tradeable asset and biggest name, so yeah, there's emphasis there. They want to be able to get out of his contract.

But they've made no secret that they're tanking. So everyone's going to be available whether the rumors are out there or not. Yelich is probably the next most attractive asset they have. His contract is an incredible bargain.

with so much politics! It needs more baseball lol.

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Stanton's contract is the one that is a big, huge albatross for the Marlins, though. Much moreso than a bunch of smaller ones. Also, good luck finding multiple trade partners for all of those guys.

Plus, at this point, the Stanton/Marlins situation is a messy embarrassment for the franchise. Probably best to move him for the best deal possible and get alot of salary relief.

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The Marlins care more about the long-term total payout more than his 2018 salary. If they have to take on salary this year,that's no problem.

to go along with the smoke. Sounds like Ellsbury has not been contacted at all about waiving his no trade so he's most likely not in the talks. Ha ha Curb fans will get Heyman's reference:
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take Stanton along on our visits to Fenway. What a fun lineup to watch. Let's do this Cash.

�Hear Stanton to Yankees is close if not done.�

just tweeted he's hearing it's close, possibly already done. Wow

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Holy shit.

I wish they would get this over with so I could go to bed

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I wish they would get this over with so I could go to bed

I FEEL YOU.. I gotta work tomorrow but i just GOTTA KNOW

Dodgers are still making me a little nervous.

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This will be huge..

And cause more moves. Frazier, Gardy and Ellsbury all will be traded in other deals...


Wow..

Just wow...

If they get Stanton and stay under the tax... lol Wow.

Ca$hman for Us president 2020/2024!!!

I'm getting punchy. Stupid Twitter trolls!

looking forward to waking up to this being done!

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This will be huge.. And cause more moves. Frazier, Gardy and Ellsbury all will be traded in other deals... Wow.. Just wow... If they get Stanton and stay under the tax... lol Wow. Ca$hman for Us president 2020/2024!!!

Stupid rumor that Gleyber is part of this. Unconfirmed and no Merrit, but I sure hope there is zero chance of that happening.

The Yankees have the Fish over a barrel here. No need to deal Torres, and multiple sources have said the Yankees aren't dealing their A prospects

I dont watch the Fish that much. Is Stanton a boom or bust guy? power to all fields? or is he a great hitter also? are we getting a HR or nothing player?

This is really going to happen?

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Will the Yankees have to give up top young players/prospects? So many questions at this point.

so I dont know who to follow...

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yanks giancarlo talks are very serious, and they've been going on seriously at least a few days. the belief it could/would get done with NYY may have led stanton not to consider the giants as seriously as he might have.

which is why Giancarlo may have passed on San Fran.

It's after 1:30 am, they decided to sleep on it and will continue in the am.

what we want to know is if it is DONE!!!

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The Yankees have the Fish over a barrel here. No need to deal Torres, and multiple sources have said the Yankees aren't dealing their A prospects

Would you say it�s like they�re shooting Fish in a barrel?

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This is really going to happen?

Lol love the Fish puns. Nailed it

Source: Stanton from #Marlins to #Yankees is �virtually done.� Close to finish line. Hear #Marlins will get at least Starlin Castro plus good but not top prospects if completed. Again physical review can still be part of this so nothing final, but close.

Great to keep Gardner and have Stanton and Judge DH/rotate RF duties. As of now the lineup looks like

Gardner
Judge
Bird
Stanton
Sanchez
Didi
Hicks
Headley
Torres

Interesting to see the next hammer to drop with possible trade chips that include ellsbury, Headley, Betances, Frazier as well as other top prospects/international spending money. Off-season will not be as vanilla as Yankee fans thought!

Acquiring the best power hitter in the game for Castro and a couple of second tier prospects? Now you can use Frazier as trade bait to get a quality starter. An embarrassment of riches right now.

If they ended up trading a middle reliever (albeit great one) for an MVP and a front line pitching prospect.

...rather spend the money on a top flight starting pitcher.

In comment 13731234 M.S. said:

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...rather spend the money on a top flight starting pitcher.

From what I've been reading,if true,money isn't going to be spent for this season but rather an exchange of contracts i.e. Castro,Headley(both on last year)& a mid range prospect or two.When the dust clears, it seems it will almost be a wash money wise.The bigger question is do you want to take on a contract that takes Stanton to 38 years old?(We've gone that route with ARod) Certainly the lineup (although RHB heavy) this year would become a modern Murderer's Row.I have mixed emotions but certainly this would make the Yankees an offensive juggernaut while at the same time,increase the pressure on Boone to get 5 more wins in post-season this year!

In comment 13731229 StingerProf said:

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Source: Stanton from #Marlins to #Yankees is �virtually done.� Close to finish line. Hear #Marlins will get at least Starlin Castro plus good but not top prospects if completed. Again physical review can still be part of this so nothing final, but close. Great to keep Gardner and have Stanton and Judge DH/rotate RF duties. As of now the lineup looks like Gardner Judge Bird Stanton Sanchez Didi Hicks Headley Torres Interesting to see the next hammer to drop with possible trade chips that include ellsbury, Headley, Betances, Frazier as well as other top prospects/international spending money. Off-season will not be as vanilla as Yankee fans thought!

I don't mind that lineup. But if it ends up being Castro and Headley, I really wish they would resign Frazier for 3rd. Let Toe be the backup infielder again. Frazier looked like he was a big part of last year after the trade. Seemed like he brought the team together and was a huge locker room presence.

In comment 13731238 TheMick7 said:

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In comment 13731234 M.S. said: Quote: ...rather spend the money on a top flight starting pitcher. From what I've been reading,if true,money isn't going to be spent for this season but rather an exchange of contracts i.e. Castro,Headley(both on last year)& a mid range prospect or two.When the dust clears, it seems it will almost be a wash money wise.The bigger question is do you want to take on a contract that takes Stanton to 38 years old?(We've gone that route with ARod) Certainly the lineup (although RHB heavy) this year would become a modern Murderer's Row.I have mixed emotions but certainly this would make the Yankees an offensive juggernaut while at the same time,increase the pressure on Boone to get 5 more wins in post-season this year!

Thanks for insights/clarification.

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My source tells me that Giancarlo Stanton is heading to the Yankees. While still trying to work it out the Giants deal last night things happened very quickly between Jeter and the Yankees. Stanton flew to Tampa over night to meet with Yankees and will take his physical today.

Jeez this is massive.

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In comment 13731089 RetroJint said:

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The Red Sox will be compelled to go hard for Harper in the classic nuclear arms race . Save your resources for Harper. The Yanks won playoff games against the Indians and Astros in part because guys like Gardner grung out ABs. Top-heavy reliance on the long ball will become an even greater issue . Cashman has had a weird start to the off-season .

Bryce Harper is a life long Yankees fan. He'd rather stay in DC than go to the Red Sox. It makes Harper to the Cubs, Cardinals or Giants a lot more likely because the Yanks won't be in on him

bat, albeit the best all or nothing bat. I hope Cash isn�t acting like a spurned little girl cause Ohtani went somewhere else.

Don�t like it even if it�s for Castro and Headley and NO prospects. Who cares if the salaries cancel this year, there are another 9 years!! Unless we are going back to the big bad Yankees mode, then this makes no sense at all.

In comment 13731377 Jim in Hoboken said:

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bat, albeit the best all or nothing bat. I hope Cash isn�t acting like a spurned little girl cause Ohtani went somewhere else. Don�t like it even if it�s for Castro and Headley and NO prospects. Who cares if the salaries cancel this year, there are another 9 years!! Unless we are going back to the big bad Yankees mode, then this makes no sense at all.

Good lord. Some people will complain about anything.

In comment 13731382 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 13731377 Jim in Hoboken said: Quote: bat, albeit the best all or nothing bat. I hope Cash isn�t acting like a spurned little girl cause Ohtani went somewhere else. Don�t like it even if it�s for Castro and Headley and NO prospects. Who cares if the salaries cancel this year, there are another 9 years!! Unless we are going back to the big bad Yankees mode, then this makes no sense at all. Good lord. Some people will complain about anything.

Lol. Some guy just called into WFAN to say he doesn�t like the trade bc the Yankees will have a target on their backs now. As if they were going to otherwise be sneaking up on teams this season

In comment 13731395 mfsd said:

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In comment 13731382 BigBlueShock said: Quote: In comment 13731377 Jim in Hoboken said: Quote: bat, albeit the best all or nothing bat. I hope Cash isn�t acting like a spurned little girl cause Ohtani went somewhere else. Don�t like it even if it�s for Castro and Headley and NO prospects. Who cares if the salaries cancel this year, there are another 9 years!! Unless we are going back to the big bad Yankees mode, then this makes no sense at all. Good lord. Some people will complain about anything. Lol. Some guy just called into WFAN to say he doesn�t like the trade bc the Yankees will have a target on their backs now. As if they were going to otherwise be sneaking up on teams this season

Yeah man. Better watch out for those Royals now. They�re going to be extra motivated when they play now. The White Sox are probably working on their game plan as we speak because of this...

Upset because they might have Giancarlo Stanton on the team? Fuck off with that bullshit.

What, you want to be like the fake ass Bullshit underdog assholes like the red Sox? Pfffft.

In comment 13731421 B in ALB said:

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Upset because they might have Giancarlo Stanton on the team? Fuck off with that bullshit. What, you want to be like the fake ass Bullshit underdog assholes like the red Sox? Pfffft.

Come on B. The guy hits too many HRs. Wouldn�t you rather have a guy that bunts and crushes dribblers to SS?

We actually have a guy on this thread that said that he wouldn�t deal Castro and Headley straight up for a top 10 player in the league. Just think about that

In comment 13731083 Greg from LI said:

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They're bringing Sabathia back so they're going to have Severino, Gray, Tanaka, Sabathia and Montgomery again, with Adams and German waiting in the wings. I wouldn't call that a weak group, and that doesn't even include a pen of Chapman, Green, Warren, Robertson, Kahnle, and a hopefully back on track Betances.

It's not a weak group, but can it get us through power lineups in the AL Finals and the World Series?

In comment 13731437 M.S. said:

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In comment 13731083 Greg from LI said: Quote: They're bringing Sabathia back so they're going to have Severino, Gray, Tanaka, Sabathia and Montgomery again, with Adams and German waiting in the wings. I wouldn't call that a weak group, and that doesn't even include a pen of Chapman, Green, Warren, Robertson, Kahnle, and a hopefully back on track Betances. It's not a weak group, but can it get us through power lineups in the AL Finals and the World Series?

Our pitching was fine last year. We couldn't hit for shit.

In comment 13731437 M.S. said:

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In comment 13731083 Greg from LI said: Quote: They're bringing Sabathia back so they're going to have Severino, Gray, Tanaka, Sabathia and Montgomery again, with Adams and German waiting in the wings. I wouldn't call that a weak group, and that doesn't even include a pen of Chapman, Green, Warren, Robertson, Kahnle, and a hopefully back on track Betances. It's not a weak group, but can it get us through power lineups in the AL Finals and the World Series?

This isn�t anywhere near a finished product. They have a loaded system. They could add a SP on a team friendly deal if they have to at some point.

the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees.

This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now.

I'm hoping that the Marlins are taking some of the money in the deal, but if not I'm hoping that the money for Stanton pales once Harper signs.

And I think that we'd still be in on Machado next year if we are including Andujar in this deal.

In comment 13731476 Jim in Hoboken said:

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the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees. This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now.

So you complain about putting the best playatveach position and follow it up by complaining thatvthis takes them out of the Machado and Harper sweepstakes. Can�t have it both ways.

Sounds like you should be a Mets fan. You know, small market team that has no interest in putting a championship caliber team on the field.

In comment 13731476 Jim in Hoboken said:

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the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees. This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now.

I don't know where you're getting your info from but adding Stanton's salary does not mean that they can't get under the tax threshold. It's a given that they will get below the threshold this season and reset the tax.

Also, Harper at 26 years old will be looking at a $400 million contract. The Yankees added Stanton for less than what he would have gotten if he was a free agent today. Harper to the Yankees is done but most writers still have the Yanks as the favorites for Machado. Personally, Id prefer we don't sign any of them.

In comment 13731476 Jim in Hoboken said:

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the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees. This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now.

By all account, Yanks remain fully committed to getting under the luxury tax this season - adding Stanton doesn�t change that, assuming as expected they�re sending some salaries back to Miami

The penalty then resets to zero, so if they go over next year and beyond, they start back at a lower luxury tax penalty rate. I think that�s been their plan all along

We don�t have a stud 3B, though i want to give Andujar a long look. Both Harper and Machado are younger too.

We have a 25M player as a 4th OF!!! That�s absurd, now he�s going to be a pinch runner with Stanton on board? Having Stanton means that we will be limited financially when it comes to addressing other needs for the duration of his deal. And I don�t mind acquiring bonafide superstars for cheap, but Stanton is so redundant. Stanton is exciting but can you guarantee me that he�s going to hit playoff pitching? I tend to think he will be more like Judge in the playoffs.

In comment 13731518 mfsd said:

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In comment 13731476 Jim in Hoboken said: Quote: the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees. This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now. By all account, Yanks remain fully committed to getting under the luxury tax this season - adding Stanton doesn�t change that, assuming as expected they�re sending some salaries back to Miami The penalty then resets to zero, so if they go over next year and beyond, they start back at a lower luxury tax penalty rate. I think that�s been their plan all along

That's the plan. A-Rod and CC came off the books this year. They are also moving Castro's money off the books as well. Next year you have guys like Robertson ($13 million), Headley ($13 million), and Gardner ($12 million) coming of the books.

And when time comes for Judge and Sanchez to be paid, guys like Ellsbury and Tanaka will be coming of the books.

In comment 13731521 Jim in Hoboken said:

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We don�t have a stud 3B, though i want to give Andujar a long look. Both Harper and Machado are younger too. We have a 25M player as a 4th OF!!! That�s absurd, now he�s going to be a pinch runner with Stanton on board? Having Stanton means that we will be limited financially when it comes to addressing other needs for the duration of his deal. And I don�t mind acquiring bonafide superstars for cheap, but Stanton is so redundant. Stanton is exciting but can you guarantee me that he�s going to hit playoff pitching? I tend to think he will be more like Judge in the playoffs.

Ellsbury would have been a 4th outfielder regardless of the Yankees getting Stanton. Getting Stanton does not tie us up from signing others because there are big contacts coming off the books every year for the next few years. We still have 4-5 years of Judge, Sanchez, Bird, and Severino before we have to pay them big contracts.

In comment 13731521 Jim in Hoboken said:

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We don�t have a stud 3B, though i want to give Andujar a long look. Both Harper and Machado are younger too. We have a 25M player as a 4th OF!!! That�s absurd, now he�s going to be a pinch runner with Stanton on board? Having Stanton means that we will be limited financially when it comes to addressing other needs for the duration of his deal. And I don�t mind acquiring bonafide superstars for cheap, but Stanton is so redundant. Stanton is exciting but can you guarantee me that he�s going to hit playoff pitching? I tend to think he will be more like Judge in the playoffs.

Stanton vs. other top pitchers:

Bumgarner: 10-19 (.526), 2 HR, 5 2Bs
DeGrom: 9-22 (.409), 2 HR
Strasburg: 15-48 (.313), 3 HR, 8 2Bs
Gerrit Cole: 3-10, 1 HR
David Price: 3-10
Kershaw: 5-18 (.278), 2 HR
Hamels: 13-51 (.255), 3 HR
Scherzer: 4-18 (.222), 2 HR

He is 0-12 against Adam Wainwright and 0-11 against Syndergaard

Judge had one monster year and has to repeat it. Stanton's had several monster years and is proven against ace pitching with those stats

If reports are true the Yankees might have taken as little as an adjusted 16M in salary over the next three years.

That's not even in the neighborhood of losing financial flexibility.

Stanton is a top 3 player in his prime.

The only reason the Yankees are even in the conversation to grab this deal is because of the Marlins debt and the NTC.

This is superb luck and great work by Cashman to have the team in the financial position to make it happen.

Jorge Guzman and Jose Devers, in addition to Castro. Wow, what a deal! Didn't see it posted.
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Jorge Guzman and Jose Devers, in addition to Castro. Wow, what a deal! Didn't see it posted. Link - ( New Window )

It's in the NFT Yankees thread.

In comment 13731527 Ace718 said:

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In comment 13731518 mfsd said: Quote: In comment 13731476 Jim in Hoboken said: Quote: the Yanks have tossed the idea of being under the luxury tax out of the window, then this deal makes sense. Cause, you know, it�s not out money, let�s just put the best player in each position like we�ve always done before. Brcause, fuck it, we are big bad Yankees. This effectively takes us out of the Harper and Machado sweepstakes. We have a glut of OF already, we have other needs. And let�s see who will be the ones complaining in 7-8 years. None of you were complaining about the back end of the A Rod deal? C�mon now. By all account, Yanks remain fully committed to getting under the luxury tax this season - adding Stanton doesn�t change that, assuming as expected they�re sending some salaries back to Miami The penalty then resets to zero, so if they go over next year and beyond, they start back at a lower luxury tax penalty rate. I think that�s been their plan all along That's the plan. A-Rod and CC came off the books this year. They are also moving Castro's money off the books as well. Next year you have guys like Robertson ($13 million), Headley ($13 million), and Gardner ($12 million) coming of the books. And when time comes for Judge and Sanchez to be paid, guys like Ellsbury and Tanaka will be coming of the books.

In terms of getting under the tax threshold, those future year expiring contracts really don't matter at all. Future flexibility is nice, no question, but getting under the tax line this year is important.