Stanton to Yanks �making progress�

im okay with it as long as they don't give up glibber. Saw suggested hicks, floral, and at least one fo ellsbury, gardner, or headley to shed some salary. Judge-Sanchez-Stanton What a 2-3-4 that would be.

They dont need another high power strikeout guy.

The Marlins are selling high

But if it does, the Yankees will be friggin terrifying in their lineup

Fucking do it cash.

Stanton is coming off a career year and in all likelihood it's all downhill for him from here. I'd rather they waited a year and then went all in on Bryce Harper. Harper is five years younger, hits from the left side of the plate and for a much higher BA. He may cost $100M more over the next ten years, but the anticipated greater productivity over the full length of the contract will be worth it. And Harper won't cost them two or three of their top prospects.

If they're gonna give up the likes of Adams and Frazier, I'd rather it be for Gerrit Cole. And then add Harper next year. Patience is a virtue.

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Sources: The Yankees recognize they�re in a position of significant strength right now. Same with Giancarlo Stanton, who can decide exactly where he wants to go and force a deal. And the Marlins ... well, the Marlins are trying to figure out how to best salvage an absolute mess.

In comment 13731059 spike said:

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They dont need another high power strikeout guy. The Marlins are selling high

Give me a

FWIW....Morosi said Castro is one of the guys the Yankees are offering. Feinsand says they're talking but not close to a deal.

on a $197 mil payroll. This would be a surprise.

I hate these million year contracts.

We need pitching more than another bat (although it IS some bat). But with the FAs like Harper and Machado coming loose soon, why give up prospects for Stanton?

And where will they play him? LF? He doesn't have the range to do so, nor does Judge. DH? Not ideal, imo, although I suppose that if Gardner goes in the trade they could rotate a bunch of guys, including all the OFers and Sanchez, through that spot and LF.

Is that they'd be REALLY righty heavy with a 3 4 5 of Sanchez, Judge, and Stanton.

Still, that is one awe-inspiring heart of the order.

Stanton to NY with Miami chipping in a bit of money, and Clint Frazier, Starlin Castro (to replace Dee Gordon and offset some cost) + a lower level prospect or two. Something like that. I'm not completely sold on the move, but if they can land him AND stay under $197 million, it's hard to complain too much. You're adding Stanton and Torres to an already deep lineup, and can still spend big next offseason.

Stanton turned 28 years old last month. His remaining contract, which he opt out of after the 2020 season:

18:$25M, 19:$26M, 20:$26M, 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout)

That�s potentially a disastrous commitment to make, regardless of how good he is right now. You basically have to hope he opts out, which doesn�t seem to make any sense for him to do even if he�s at an MVP level after the 2020 season as he�ll be 30 years old. Can�t say it wouldn�t be fun to watch him in 2018 though

And the Yankees have prospects coming out of their ears right now.

In comment 13731067 dune69 said:

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on a $197 mil payroll. This would be a surprise.

Kay was talking about it today. He didn't think it would happen. However, he was saying the marlins would have to take Castro,Gardner and Ellsbury who also a a full no trade clause. It would keep the Yanks under 197.

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#Yankees are indeed making a move to try to land Stanton. Deal coming into focus

He can see the writing on the wall. He's not going to play much for the Yankees going forward. If he wants to get on the field, he's going to have to be open to a trade, though maybe not to Miami.

The Metsies are shedding payroll. Historically poor offense that's returning Cabrera, a hole at 1B, 2B, hole in virtually all the OF positions.

It's okay though. We've added 90 relief pitchers for next season.

He's going to get a deal that makes Stanton's look like peanuts, and he gets banged up every year.

and take back Castro's $10 million - that means the Yankees are adding $15 million or so in the transaction. If they find a taker for Headley in a separate deal, or find a cheaper alternative to CC in the rotation, they can almost call it a wash. They'll make it work somehow.

until they find a way to ship out an expensive guy or two to offset his contract. And more importantly, until Stanton actually agrees to go to the Yankees. I'll believe it when I see it.

They're bringing Sabathia back so they're going to have Severino, Gray, Tanaka, Sabathia and Montgomery again, with Adams and German waiting in the wings. I wouldn't call that a weak group, and that doesn't even include a pen of Chapman, Green, Warren, Robertson, Kahnle, and a hopefully back on track Betances.

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yanks making progress on stanton deal but can't be absolutely sure if another team is/isnt involved. stanton also would waive no trade to dodgers, cubs and astros, as @CraigMish reported. dodgers have more $ hurdles than yanks. astros, cubs would seem less likely w/$295M to go.

That is Stanton�s remaining contract after his opt out year and this doesn�t include his likely final year club buyout for an additional $10M. Maybe I�m being overly conservative, it�s not my money after all, but his contract is really ridiculous.

None of the Yankees top prospects are being discussed. Sounds like this is gonna end up being a straight salary dump now that Stanton has erased any leverage the Marlins might have had by blocking those deals.

if it were to go down.. Its a lot of coin.. and how long does he play at a high level ?

Go for the throat. You don't pass up on adding the reigning MVP to a team that was one game from the Series because of worries about what's going to happen six or seven years from now.

The Red Sox will be compelled to go hard for Harper in the classic nuclear arms race . Save your resources for Harper. The Yanks won playoff games against the Indians and Astros in part because guys like Gardner grung out ABs. Top-heavy reliance on the long ball will become an even greater issue .

Cashman has had a weird start to the off-season .

But he is never going to be as good as Stanton is right now.

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if it were to go down.. Its a lot of coin.. and how long does he play at a high level ?

Depends on how many times he can visit Miami:)

I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility.

C'mon. You think Boston is just going to stand pat if the Yankees do?

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there's a belief marlins would like to do a trade by the winter meetings while teams still have $ to spend. teams are going to start spending next week. stanton/yanks are the one in positions of strength here.

In comment 13731077 Greg from LI said:

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He can see the writing on the wall. He's not going to play much for the Yankees going forward. If he wants to get on the field, he's going to have to be open to a trade, though maybe not to Miami.

I agree. If he stays on the Yanks he will be the 4th outfielder. The days of him being a full time starter are gone.

In comment 13731089 RetroJint said:

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The Red Sox will be compelled to go hard for Harper in the classic nuclear arms race . Save your resources for Harper. The Yanks won playoff games against the Indians and Astros in part because guys like Gardner grung out ABs. Top-heavy reliance on the long ball will become an even greater issue . Cashman has had a weird start to the off-season .

I don't disagree. But for the Yankees, they might well look at it that in free agency there is no 100% certainty. Most people thought Ohtani was a lock to the Yankees. If they are staring at Stanton essentially being handed to them on a platter, and coming up so close but short of a World Series, they almost have to make this move, particularly if they aren't going to give anything up.

You've got four guys in the lineup with the potential to hit 30+ homers, 50+ for two of them. And it's not as if the rest of the lineup will be schmoes, either. You'll still have Didi and Hicks. You'll have Torres arriving soon, maybe Andujar.

Plenty of prime years left, and plenty of DH at-bats available to keep him fresh.

In comment 13731092 Matt in SGS said:

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I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility.

Ellsbury is the only really bad contract left on the books. Chase Headley blows and is way overpaid, but that mistake is a year away from being over and done with. I wouldn�t trade anyone of value just to dump Headley at this point.

than what's left on Stanton's contract.

and am still not pushing for it. However if you're gonna do it now is the time to swoop in. Jeter and the Marlins have really backed themselves into a corner. For the first time in his life Jeter is catching real criticism in baseball circles and that can't sit too well with him. The deals they were talking about with the Giants and Cards were not prospects on the Torres-Sheffield level at all. If its Castro and one of the OF's and b type prospects Its something you'd have to look at especially if you get rid of Ellsbury's contract. The thing about our prospects is you know Dembo knows exactly who to target.

Spin on the winter meetings as far as us Yankee fans go. Before this speculation, the Yanks were not going to be much active at the meetings.

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In comment 13731092 Matt in SGS said: Quote: I'd be curious if Cash thinks outside the box here and uses his farm depth to actually help trade off bad contracts. IE- in order to get a taker for Ellsbury or Headley, the Yankees would package a decent/good prospect with them for a lesser package back just to eat salary. Not a Torres mind you, but one of their many next tier guys who still really good. Building up a strong farm will give them that flexibility. Ellsbury is the only really bad contract left on the books. Chase Headley blows and is way overpaid, but that mistake is a year away from being over and done with. I wouldn�t trade anyone of value just to dump Headley at this point.

This is only a scenario for the Yankees to work out the numbers to get under the luxury tax threshhold per Hal's decree. If that is the case, the Yankees need to find that money somewhere and Headley a glaring target.

Which they can keep intact, or they can use to deal for another frontline starter.

I just don't see how you can pass up Stanton in a deal where you're not emptying the farm and instead hope that you can sign a free agent down the road, or because you think the last couple of years of Stanton's contract will be bad. I mean, we're talking about a guy who is only two years older than Judge and three years older than Sanchez. These guys are going to have several prime years together.

Machado-Didi-Gleyber-Bird-Sanchez around the horn, with Judge and Stanton in the corners - we might win a few games. But first things first.

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and am still not pushing for it. However if you're gonna do it now is the time to swoop in. Jeter and the Marlins have really backed themselves into a corner. For the first time in his life Jeter is catching real criticism in baseball circles and that can't sit too well with him. The deals they were talking about with the Giants and Cards were not prospects on the Torres-Sheffield level at all. If its Castro and one of the OF's and b type prospects Its something you'd have to look at especially if you get rid of Ellsbury's contract. The thing about our prospects is you know Dembo knows exactly who to target.

The Denbo angle is interesting

In comment 13731100 Dave in Hoboken said:

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than what's left on Stanton's contract.

Bingo. And much as I'd want Harper, the guy gets hurt almost every year because he plays like a madman.

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Machado-Didi-Gleyber-Bird-Sanchez around the horn, with Judge and Stanton in the corners - we might win a few games. But first things first.

I don't think Harper will be the target. I said yesterday I think the Yankees will want Machado.

In comment 13731064 Milton said:

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Stanton is coming off a career year and in all likelihood it's all downhill for him from here. I'd rather they waited a year and then went all in on Bryce Harper. Harper is five years younger, hits from the left side of the plate and for a much higher BA. He may cost $100M more over the next ten years, but the anticipated greater productivity over the full length of the contract will be worth it. And Harper won't cost them two or three of their top prospects. If they're gonna give up the likes of Adams and Frazier, I'd rather it be for Gerrit Cole. And then add Harper next year. Patience is a virtue.

You're math is off. Harper is only 3 years younger than Stanton.

If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever

this is not the NBA. Baseball players are a little quirkier in their choices as you saw with Ohtani. They don't necessarily gravitate towards the most $ or best situation to chase a title. Machado and Harper are far from sure things even if the Yanks go all in. Sometimes its as simple as something someone from the Yanks organization said to their dad 10 years ago to tee him off.

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