Stanton to Yanks �making progress�

In comment 13731111 Dave in PA said:

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If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever

Hence the need to get under the luxury tax this year and trade off Ellsbury and Headley to offset the Stanton deal. I don't think this move precludes them from going after Machado.

Honestly hadn't paid much mind to the idea of Stanton coming here. But the market has come back to us and it seems like it could be an opportunity we can't say no to. If you can do the deal without Gleyber, Florial, or Sheffield, it's a no brainer. Do it Cash.

was that Harper's dad is a massive Yankees fan and Bryce grew up a fan and wanted desperately to play for them. Which is swell and all, but he's not a kid anymore.

And, honestly, the Yankees generally avoid really outspoken guys with outsized personalities. Not to say that they haven't had some - David Wells, Gary Sheffield leap to mind - but in general they have low-key stars and have been that was since the early 90s.

Denbo knows our farm system better than anyone. Seems like this is eventually going to happen. Marlins appear to have no interest in bringing him back and Stanton has completely erased their leverage

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The term an official with knowledge of the Yankees' interest in Giancarlo Stanton used is a "stalking horse." To do a deal, the Yankees would need a sweetheart trade in which they would likely need to shed payroll in the form of Jacoby Ellsbury, Chase Headley, Starlin Castro or Brett Gardner, while not giving up top prospects to acquire Stanton.

This would jive with the Castro name we've heard thrown out there tonight. I wonder if it's Castro and some lower level prospects that Denbo is aware of for Stanton.

In comment 13731114 Matt in SGS said:

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In comment 13731111 Dave in PA said: Quote: If it does then it�s slightly less attractive, but at least it�s a sure thing. That Stanton guy is like pretty decent or whatever Hence the need to get under the luxury tax this year and trade off Ellsbury and Headley to offset the Stanton deal. I don't think this move precludes them from going after Machado.

Is that just to reset the luxury tax at 20%? I use the word just pretty loosely, it�s a lot of $ on the line.

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pass on Stanton

that there's a way to keep Gardy. He's the perfect 4th OF, and after all these years I want him to be a part of the next Yankees powerhouse.

But the Marlins aren't shopping him. And as good as he is, he isn t Stanton.

and a great veteran presence. I'd push them on Castro and Ells. They might want Hicks though.

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Incentive for #Marlins to strike deal with #Yankees rather than #Dodgers: Starlin Castro, who we know is being discussed, is a cheaper veteran piece than those (Gonzalez, Kazmir or McCarthy) Dodgers likely would ask Marlins to assume.

In comment 13731079 Greg from LI said:

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He's going to get a deal that makes Stanton's look like peanuts, and he gets banged up every year.

The injuries are the big concern with Harper (and it's a very legitimate concern). Same as with Josh Rosen!

Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

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Way it was described to me is #Yankees were not heavily interested in Stanton, but if #Marlins have no place else to turn, have to move as much of his $ as possible and do deal to keep NYY in line to be under �18 luxury tax threshold, how can they ignore his talent?

I'm sure Castro wouldn't mind swinging for the fences on a shit team while enjoying the wonders of South Beach.

He's only played more than 120 games 4 times in his career.

In comment 13731131 Kyle in NY said:

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Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

From the sound of it, might not take more than one of those guys, plus a B level prospect of two and Castro.

In comment 13731131 Kyle in NY said:

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Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage

No way in hell I give them 2 of our best pitching prospects, not to mention they wouldn't be taking 1 dollar of major league salary back. Like you said we have them over a barrel.

The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton

In comment 13731138 Greg from LI said:

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The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton

I saw that, too. And as others on Twitter are saying, he's the only guy reporting this and apparently he's wrong quite a bit. Guess we'll see.

until all Dodger scenarios have been exhausted.

I'm not a big Joel Sherman fan, but he definitely is plugged in and he's saying this is looking good.

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would be icing on the cake. Might have to live with Toe at 2B for a month or so, but who cares?

In comment 13731136 Stu11 said:

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In comment 13731131 Kyle in NY said: Quote: Maybe Andujar, Adams, another pitcher like Acevedo or Guzman, plus a veteran. Cashman can afford to wait them out and get the deal he wants. They have no leverage No way in hell I give them 2 of our best pitching prospects, not to mention they wouldn't be taking 1 dollar of major league salary back. Like you said we have them over a barrel.

We now have a lot of promising pitchers in the system. And I'm not sure if they view Adams as highly as the prospect rankings do. If that package gets it done it's a no brainer. Also I was proposing including a veteran like Castro to offset money somewhat.

but he's gotta be piss drunk by now.

didn't see it coming and not sure how I feel about it. I thought we were done with albatross contracts. But next couple of years ... hell yeah!

the Yanks are still going to be good.

But yeah, I'd still prefer this happen, haha.

In comment 13731139 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13731138 Greg from LI said: Quote: The #Marlins showing no interest in #Yankees contracts they want to shred for Stanton I saw that, too. And as others on Twitter are saying, he's the only guy reporting this and apparently he's wrong quite a bit. Guess we'll see.

He claimed Stanton wanted to go to San Fran then said Marlins were stuck with Stanton and he was going nowhere...

a middle of the lineup featuring Bird, Stanton, Judge and Sanchez? Murderers row revisited.

It would be Castro or headley

It would be Castro or headley

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sounds like yanks are planning on keeping gardner. if they get stanton, they'd likely rotate those two plus judge in the 2 corner OF spots plus dh.

The Yanks have to get rid of ellsbury. Either with the marlins or another team. Buster onley and Kay mentioned that they could include ellsbury in the Stanton deal and then release him so he would be a free agent. If that were to happen, wouldn't the Marlins still be on the hook for the rest of his salary? Why would they release him.

Jeter and his partners overextended themselves to buy the team and have to shed salary right away.

There aren't many teams that can afford Stanton. The Yankees can.

He nixes two deals.

They just hired Denbo, who knows the Yankees farm inside and out and they can feel more confident in their value than prospects from another org.

The Marlins really have no where else to turn at this point. Stanton cut their legs off by killing the STL and SF deals.

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yankees have tried to foist ellsbury on miami as an offset, but marlins are not agreeing to that one. castro or headley are seen as more likely at this point. they are working on it.

Gardy has always tended to wear down over the season, too, and he's no spring chicken. Playing 90-100 games instead of 150+ will keep him fresh.

Says on Twitter that it's a done deal. No clue how legit it is. Just saw someone post it.

One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else.

In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else.

You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team.

if nothing else, the Yanks will have an even bigger media horde if they do this deal.

but he is pretty close with Jeter....

In comment 13731159 Big Rick in FL said:

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Says on Twitter that it's a done deal. No clue how legit it is. Just saw someone post it.

I want to believe....but somehow I'm not sure how credible a source the King is

In comment 13731161 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team.

The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC.

Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna.

In comment 13731166 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13731161 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team. The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC. Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna.

There is literally no talk of anyone else on the team being traded, though. This is all about Stanton.

In comment 13731154 mitch300 said:

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The Yanks have to get rid of ellsbury. Either with the marlins or another team. Buster onley and Kay mentioned that they could include ellsbury in the Stanton deal and then release him so he would be a free agent. If that were to happen, wouldn't the Marlins still be on the hook for the rest of his salary? Why would they release him.

Sepends if the Marlins eat any of Stanton�s salary or not. If anything, in a situation where Ellsbury and no real upside prospects go to Miami, you could see the Yankees eating some of Ellbury�s deal to get it done, unless Miami was willing to pay $68M of Stanton�s remaining contract to dump him.

Mantle and Maris in '61 - competing for the HR title (and record?).

In comment 13731167 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13731166 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 13731161 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: In comment 13731160 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: One way or another they're slashing salary. Either they trade Stanton, or keep stanton and trade everyone else. You can't really trade an entire team in one offseason. It's going to be the one guy who has far and away the biggest contract (in both salary and length) than anyone else on the team. The Marlins have the distinction of being the one franchise that HAS traded an entire team in one offseason before. More than once, IIRC. Different owners, but the current GM is a holdover from the Loria regime and it doesn't seem like the strategy of slashing payroll has shifted. Kinda feels like they sold low on Dee Gordon just to get rid of his money. I wouldn't be shocked they'll do the same for Yelich and Ozuna. There is literally no talk of anyone else on the team being traded, though. This is all about Stanton.

He's clearly their most tradeable asset and biggest name, so yeah, there's emphasis there. They want to be able to get out of his contract.

But they've made no secret that they're tanking. So everyone's going to be available whether the rumors are out there or not. Yelich is probably the next most attractive asset they have. His contract is an incredible bargain.