Nothing personal against any of these guys, but the idea that the Giants will just go digging into their own closet to find someone they're comfortable with is absurd. It's one thing to keep plucking from the Parcells tree to try to find your coaches, or to let George Young pick his successor. But now it's just a bad habit reminiscent of the bad old days of this organization. This is a team in desperate need of a shake up, that needs to rethink itself from top to bottom - if they should've learned anything from the McAdoo fiasco, it's that. There are 32 teams in the NFL - but we are supposed to believe that inevitably the best possible candidates for the Giant's GM and coaching position have worked for them in the past? Why? Because the team has been so good? Am I missing something? Are there winning franchises around the NFL populated with former Giants executives and coaches from the last decade? Payton, Fox and Belichick were Giants an awfully long time ago.
Ernie Accorsi is a wonderful self-promoter, but he was not actually one of the great GM's of all time, and he already got to make one of his old deputies the new GM. He shouldn't get to pick another. Let someone else hire Gettleman or Abrams and they can bring their version of the Giants way with whereever they go. There is not another team in the league that would consider Spags for a head coaching position. Good for him if he even gets a sniff at a DC job after this disastrous season. Enough of this.
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OMG EVERYBODY OVERREACT AND PANIC!!!!
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A full reboot or new blood.
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Oh no, not 2 more super bowls. Dolt
What's the statute of limitations on referencing the two Super Bowls? Those were ten and six years ago. They've made the playoffs three times since the first one.
It's perfectly reasonable to want a complete overhaul.
No one has more than 2 in last 10 years.
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A full reboot or new blood.
More of the same.
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Oh no, not 2 more super bowls. Dolt
What's the statute of limitations on referencing the two Super Bowls? Those were ten and six years ago. They've made the playoffs three times since the first one.
It's perfectly reasonable to want a complete overhaul.
Would it surprise anyone if Gettleman is the new GM with only Reese being removed everyone else in the front office stays place. Spags is the next HC. Sullivan & Quinn and most of the position coaches stay again.
I started reading about posters comparing McAdoo to Handley early in the season and I thought no way he's not that bad. They were right I was wrong.
I started reading about posters comparing the past few years to the 65-78 nightmare years and I thought no way it's not nearly that bad. Then the bungled Eli benching took place with John Mara out of the building on league business.
For those of you too young to have lived it, the way Wellington was excused for being the incompetent bungling fool he really was in those days was the PR spin that his only fault was caring more about the welfare of the league than his own team. Saint Wellington paid so much attention to league issues that his own team suffered. Of course that was total BS he just had no clue how to compete when the game modernized.
The way John and Chris Mara handled the Eli benching brought me right back to those Mara glory days. Maybe we are headed back to a lost 10 years or more. Don't say it can't happen in the current NFL we have half a dozen teams showing us it can.
No one has more than 2 in last 10 years.
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A full reboot or new blood.
More of the same.
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Oh no, not 2 more super bowls. Dolt
What's the statute of limitations on referencing the two Super Bowls? Those were ten and six years ago. They've made the playoffs three times since the first one.
It's perfectly reasonable to want a complete overhaul.
That's not the point. Nobody is minimizing the titles, but the fact is we haven't been able to string together two playoff seasons in nearly a decade.
Not even saying they have to make the playoffs every year but some consistency would be nice.
Right but there also should be caution on possibly hiring guys because you're familiar with them
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A full reboot or new blood.
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OMG EVERYBODY OVERREACT AND PANIC!!!!
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A full reboot or new blood.
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Oh no, not 2 more super bowls. Dolt
Right... what's the statute of limitations on SB wins? You win 2 and you're immune from shitty seasons forever? Didn't work for Coughlin did it?
just to review - the Giants decided the offense was the problem, so they got Gilbride to retire and simply replaced the OC. then the next year they decided the defense was the problem, and brought back Spags, who was on nobody else's DC list. then that didn't work, so they dumped TC but kept all of his coordinators. and that worked even worse - so now they've dumped the GM, but the main candidates are basically in-house? and one of them is already the odds-on favorite?
somebody show me a successful business anywhere that would make this decision like this. this is basically how family businesses die - because there's no one to force them out of their comfort zone. George Young was the single greatest hire this franchise ever made, because he had no ties to anyone - he just wanted to build a winning football team. if you guys think Gettleman comes back here and isn't beholden to all the ties and relationships he already has, so that when the Maras hint they really like this scout, or this executive, it doesn't impact him, i've got a bridge to sell you. ownership needs to start fresh and get the hell out of the way.
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just to review - the Giants decided the offense was the problem, so they got Gilbride to retire and simply replaced the OC. then the next year they decided the defense was the problem, and brought back Spags, who was on nobody else's DC list. then that didn't work, so they dumped TC but kept all of his coordinators. and that worked even worse - so now they've dumped the GM, but the main candidates are basically in-house? and one of them is already the odds-on favorite?
Why more people aren't on this line of thought actually bothers me a little. Your handle btw is so unfortunately appropriate....I just mentioned in another thread that firing McAdoo and Reese and then hiring Gettlemen is the equivalent of cleaning up all dog shit in the your entire yard and then as your walking back into the house, stepping in it anyway. Mara did the hardest part. Now all he has to do is not hire some fucking schmuck who couldn't cut it in Carolina and won a Super Bowl with the previous GMs guys. He's just another Reese!!!!!
somebody show me a successful business anywhere that would make this decision like this. this is basically how family businesses die - because there's no one to force them out of their comfort zone. George Young was the single greatest hire this franchise ever made, because he had no ties to anyone - he just wanted to build a winning football team. if you guys think Gettleman comes back here and isn't beholden to all the ties and relationships he already has, so that when the Maras hint they really like this scout, or this executive, it doesn't impact him, i've got a bridge to sell you. ownership needs to start fresh and get the hell out of the way.