what i am about to say. i have loved eli his whole career and am a huge giant fan. having said that those of you that are eli fanatics need to understand that he is part of the problem right now. that doesnt mean he cant rebound, but for the last 2 years he has been a part of the problem, a big part. yes he has a bad o line and drops and bad running game, but great players make guys around him better and he can not do that at this point.
Madden Brady couldn't win with this poor excuse for an offense!
JPP gives grief to the O and then the D cant cover the middle of the field.
OV did nothing today.
If the Giants have to eat some dead cap money next year to clear cap space in 2019 that’s fine by me. Way too much $$$ in OV and JPP.
Definitely have to rethink JPP and OV the off-season, they are on the all-overpaid team! OV's cheap shot on Dak was his best QB hit of the year, pathetic!
This!! The team can't get rid of OV quick enough IMO. Yes there would be dead money, but cutting him will actually save $$ against the cap next year. Unfortunately JPP will be around for at least another year with that albatross of a contract.
Snacks is the lone bright spot from the vaunted 2016 FA class at this point.
Needs evident this week are again QB SPEED at RB LB FS ...... Oline played ok today .....Engrams drops getting concerning ...I say Hope we get defense minded coach who brings in a real OC with an NFL offense.
Don't know what is OV's problem, but he did basically nothing except miss a very big sack.
Although his energy level at times left a bit to be desired, OV was going against the best left tackle in the sport. What was everyone else's excuse?
Quit making excuses. The first quarter especially, OV played over Collins whom was on the injury report all week with a bad back. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd play of the game and OV was rolled in the dirt for a 6 yard gain by Morris as he ran right over him. Like the teacher's pet getting rolled at recess in the 2nd grade.
If there is a franchise QB available. That’s for the Giants talent evaluators. Ask the Browns how they made out doing that!
Exactly. It's really amazing to me that some BBIers watched this season and are calling for the team to draft a guard or a RB with the #1 pick as if that's all they need to be competitive.
Quit making excuses. The first quarter especially, OV played over Collins whom was on the injury report all week with a bad back. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd play of the game and OV was rolled in the dirt for a 6 yard gain by Morris as he ran right over him. Like the teacher's pet getting rolled at recess in the 2nd grade.
That was an absolutely pathetic lack of effort on that play... perhaps the most embarrassing by any Giants player all season. What does it say that he still got closer to the QB more often than any of his other teammates?
Stop with the BS, Eli played fine and he had the team at 10-10 into the fourth quarter ,it was the defense and some major drops that cost the game today not Eli.
organization. Another wasted week. Instead of getting the rookie in there, we piss away another opportunity to evaluate him.
the plan was to evaluate the young guys and the fans and media revolted. The fans kicked and screamed for Eli and to fight for ugly meaningless wins. Idiot fans got their way. Don’t know what to tell ya.
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I think Defense gave up in the fourth quarter after the 6 time in a row our offense could not move the ball couldn't get the easy first down and punted
Eli was pathetic .. never looking down field just underneath throws .. skittish in the pocket .. not extended plays .. throwing high to receivers ALL day .
if Geno Smith put up the same numbers as Eli and played the same way as Eli.
everyone would be calling for Geno to be cut from the team..
Eli is done .. and the worst part is because of the drama that happen this week
Eli is playing the rest of the way where we should really be looking at Webb in serious way .
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I think Defense gave up in the fourth quarter after the 6 time in a row our offense could not move the ball couldn't get the easy first down and punted
Eli was pathetic .. never looking down field just underneath throws .. skittish in the pocket .. not extended plays .. throwing high to receivers ALL day .
if Geno Smith put up the same numbers as Eli and played the same way as Eli.
everyone would be calling for Geno to be cut from the team..
Eli is done .. and the worst part is because of the drama that happen this week
Eli is playing the rest of the way where we should really be looking at Webb in serious way .
Hi Ben, how are you coping with the job situation?
And rebuild that o line and rushing attack and maybe get rid of those clowns that allegedly are playing defense. Itbwill take a good gm and hc to turn this shit show around.
Got his hotdog in today. Would hate for him to throw those INT on an empty stomach.
Bright side, there will be no men or women weeping at dinner tonight.
The interceptions were thrown when the Giants were already down by 2 scores. Eli trying to make something out of nothing when the game was already lost.
Got his hotdog in today. Would hate for him to throw those INT on an empty stomach.
Bright side, there will be no men or women weeping at dinner tonight.
The interceptions were thrown when the Giants were already down by 2 scores. Eli trying to make something out of nothing when the game was already lost.
Agreed. Eli missed Ellison badly in the first half, but the drops were a much bigger problem.
Other than the Browns losing in typical Browns fashion Â
about Spagnuolo on this thread are absurd. Were you expecting this interim coach to suddenly fix the teams woes? He inherited a broken team, with systemic organizational issues, with 2nd tier receivers and no-name backups in many spots, and people want him fired? I'm not a big fan as Spags as HC, but I wasn't expecting a drastic turnaround since he started on Tuesday.
Spags is ordinary at best. He's never ever ever elevated this defense when it lacked depth or talent. Never. As in, NEVER. Seriously. Never. Don't believe me? Look it up. How'd they do in 2015 when the talent was shaky? They were absolutely awful. Not just bad but historically bad. How'd they do this year when the talent was ok or pretty good early on? They folded like a cheap suit.
Spags deserves the credit for 07 and 08 and that's it. He's done little to nothing ever since. Fact. Not opinion, fact.
Absofuckinglutely he needs to go too! You listen to him
AFTER the game, sounded like Coughlin was back in the house.
This organization is much much closer to the Browns then some
think, I can tell you that much.
Coaching strategy with the run game and defense to stop the run was good,
But Eli is not a dink and dunk QB. You have to let him throw some deep balls, of course you have to have someone who can catch them, and an OL that at least can allow some time. Eli needs to be freed from the restrictions of the Macadoo offfense, if only for 2 plays a quarter. Run the ball and give Eli a chance to be Eli. These fools can't catch the ball, punish them is some way.
DE''s better wake up and learn how to rich and contain. Snacks an amazing man, and our rookie is doing ok. Our leers have to get better street guys though they may be and hopefully we can patch up a secondary.
The fans kicked and screamed for Eli and to fight for ugly meaningless wins. Idiot fans got their way. Don’t know what to tell ya.
that's BS.
They ditdbt get Webb any extra work before they benched Eli or after. The week of the OAK game Webb was nothing but an observer once again.
Mara said flat out he wanted to get the young QBs in there. That’s when McAdoo concocted his proposal. This was well documented. Then after fallout Eli was inserted back in and when asked about getting young QBs in Mara said it was not a priority —only focus is winning games. And spags echoed the same.
Madden Brady couldn't win with this poor excuse for an offense!
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JPP gives grief to the O and then the D cant cover the middle of the field.
OV did nothing today.
If the Giants have to eat some dead cap money next year to clear cap space in 2019 that’s fine by me. Way too much $$$ in OV and JPP.
Definitely have to rethink JPP and OV the off-season, they are on the all-overpaid team! OV's cheap shot on Dak was his best QB hit of the year, pathetic!
This!! The team can't get rid of OV quick enough IMO. Yes there would be dead money, but cutting him will actually save $$ against the cap next year. Unfortunately JPP will be around for at least another year with that albatross of a contract.
Snacks is the lone bright spot from the vaunted 2016 FA class at this point.
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The lift that Eli was supposed to give them??
Why are they playing so much, it certainly isn't due to their great production, face it, they are mediocre at best at this point, wildly OVERPAID!
Dropping ten passes in the second half. Did you watch the game?
Don't know what is OV's problem, but he did basically nothing except miss a very big sack.
Although his energy level at times left a bit to be desired, OV was going against the best left tackle in the sport. What was everyone else's excuse?
Played tough - no margin for error, then they erred
Then JPP is trying to fire the offense up - wtf?
Eagles are making me sick. They have a very talented roster and coaches all look like geniuses there now.
Dallas has played ok, but they too are fairly talented when healthy and the Redskins have some talent on their team as well.
Our new GM is going to have his work cut out for him. This off-season is going to be the most important in like 30+ years!
sadly, we probably don't. I don't see this team winning another game
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Don't know what is OV's problem, but he did basically nothing except miss a very big sack.
Although his energy level at times left a bit to be desired, OV was going against the best left tackle in the sport. What was everyone else's excuse?
Quit making excuses. The first quarter especially, OV played over Collins whom was on the injury report all week with a bad back. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd play of the game and OV was rolled in the dirt for a 6 yard gain by Morris as he ran right over him. Like the teacher's pet getting rolled at recess in the 2nd grade.
Exactly. It's really amazing to me that some BBIers watched this season and are calling for the team to draft a guard or a RB with the #1 pick as if that's all they need to be competitive.
Quit making excuses. The first quarter especially, OV played over Collins whom was on the injury report all week with a bad back. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd play of the game and OV was rolled in the dirt for a 6 yard gain by Morris as he ran right over him. Like the teacher's pet getting rolled at recess in the 2nd grade.
That was an absolutely pathetic lack of effort on that play... perhaps the most embarrassing by any Giants player all season. What does it say that he still got closer to the QB more often than any of his other teammates?
I think Defense gave up in the fourth quarter after the 6 time in a row our offense could not move the ball couldn't get the easy first down and punted
Eli was pathetic .. never looking down field just underneath throws .. skittish in the pocket .. not extended plays .. throwing high to receivers ALL day .
if Geno Smith put up the same numbers as Eli and played the same way as Eli.
everyone would be calling for Geno to be cut from the team..
Eli is done .. and the worst part is because of the drama that happen this week
Eli is playing the rest of the way where we should really be looking at Webb in serious way .
I think Defense gave up in the fourth quarter after the 6 time in a row our offense could not move the ball couldn't get the easy first down and punted
Eli was pathetic .. never looking down field just underneath throws .. skittish in the pocket .. not extended plays .. throwing high to receivers ALL day .
if Geno Smith put up the same numbers as Eli and played the same way as Eli.
everyone would be calling for Geno to be cut from the team..
Eli is done .. and the worst part is because of the drama that happen this week
Eli is playing the rest of the way where we should really be looking at Webb in serious way .
Hi Ben, how are you coping with the job situation?
Bright side, there will be no men or women weeping at dinner tonight.
Bright side, there will be no men or women weeping at dinner tonight.
The interceptions were thrown when the Giants were already down by 2 scores. Eli trying to make something out of nothing when the game was already lost.
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Got his hotdog in today. Would hate for him to throw those INT on an empty stomach.
Bright side, there will be no men or women weeping at dinner tonight.
The interceptions were thrown when the Giants were already down by 2 scores. Eli trying to make something out of nothing when the game was already lost.
Agreed. Eli missed Ellison badly in the first half, but the drops were a much bigger problem.
that's BS.
They ditdbt get Webb any extra work before they benched Eli or after. The week of the OAK game Webb was nothing but an observer once again.
Spags is ordinary at best. He's never ever ever elevated this defense when it lacked depth or talent. Never. As in, NEVER. Seriously. Never. Don't believe me? Look it up. How'd they do in 2015 when the talent was shaky? They were absolutely awful. Not just bad but historically bad. How'd they do this year when the talent was ok or pretty good early on? They folded like a cheap suit.
Spags deserves the credit for 07 and 08 and that's it. He's done little to nothing ever since. Fact. Not opinion, fact.
Defend Reese it's easier.
only if a chucklehead that thinks like this is in charge...
Why not? 3 games left; offer op to Sullivan and any other that wants to audition for HC; then appoint each or anyone a game.
Why not? 3 games left; offer op to Sullivan and any other that wants to audition for HC; then appoint each or anyone a game.
Absofuckinglutely he needs to go too! You listen to him
AFTER the game, sounded like Coughlin was back in the house.
This organization is much much closer to the Browns then some
think, I can tell you that much.
Why not? 3 games left; offer op to Sullivan and any other that wants to audition for HC; then appoint each or anyone a game.
9 punts 2 INT
But Eli is not a dink and dunk QB. You have to let him throw some deep balls, of course you have to have someone who can catch them, and an OL that at least can allow some time. Eli needs to be freed from the restrictions of the Macadoo offfense, if only for 2 plays a quarter. Run the ball and give Eli a chance to be Eli. These fools can't catch the ball, punish them is some way.
DE''s better wake up and learn how to rich and contain. Snacks an amazing man, and our rookie is doing ok. Our leers have to get better street guys though they may be and hopefully we can patch up a secondary.
Go Giants Fight for your jobs
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The fans kicked and screamed for Eli and to fight for ugly meaningless wins. Idiot fans got their way. Don’t know what to tell ya.
that's BS.
They ditdbt get Webb any extra work before they benched Eli or after. The week of the OAK game Webb was nothing but an observer once again.
And they are dropping like flies