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ryanmkeane : 12/10/2017 4:33 pm
Get this guy off this team immediately:

https://t.co/nM3M813qS6
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and he was a healthy scratch  
bc4life : 12/10/2017 4:56 pm : link
time to cut their losses and trade him?
1st round pick who must be  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2017 5:04 pm : link
a healthy scratch due to attitude or effort, that is a brutal pick.

I'm usually not one of these people  
BestFeature : 12/10/2017 5:46 pm : link
But how fucking hard is it to post a link? There's literally an "add a link" section directly underneath the post with a box that says "URL of Link".
What can we get for Eli Apple?  
adamg : 12/10/2017 5:54 pm : link
Cockrell fetched a 7th round pick.

Can we in any real sense expect more than a 5th or 6th round pick? Dude is such a fucking dickhead.
For those slow on the uptake  
adamg : 12/10/2017 5:55 pm : link
Eli Apple retweeted a highlight of the Cowboys running back scoring on us today. He's still living in the past of his OSU days and being an overall shitty teammate.
Who cares about Twitter?  
EmpireWF : 12/10/2017 6:01 pm : link
Get over yourselves
get over yourselves  
bc4life : 12/10/2017 6:06 pm : link
underachieving 1st round draft pick, healthy scratch, reported attitude issues - tweets about highlights made by opposing player - yeah ur right, why get upset?
RE: Who cares about Twitter?  
adamg : 12/10/2017 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13734014 EmpireWF said:
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Get over yourselves


Quit projecting. It shows an obvious lack of adjustment to the pro game on Apple's part. Try getting with the times.
RE: For those slow on the uptake  
Diver_Down : 12/10/2017 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13734001 adamg said:
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Eli Apple retweeted a highlight of the Cowboys running back scoring on us today. He's still living in the past of his OSU days and being an overall shitty teammate.


Adam, I think he deleted the tweet of the cowboys highlight. But plenty of people saw it and called him out on it. There was another tweet or response to a tweet. Someone pointed it out in the game thread, but that also seems to be missing. Basically, someone asked him why he was inactive, and he responded that "I guess I'm too healthy" with a emoticon.

A number of issues beside being a shitty teammate. I thought the NFL had a restriction on player's tweeting during the game - active or inactive. Also, by saying that he is healthy despite the injury designation on the injury report, it questions the team's dealings. Are they making up the injury to stash a player instead of the shit storm if he was a healthy scratch? Can the NFL penalize the Giants for tinkering with the injury report?

I don't know what to make of it, but he is one that I would like to see traded this off-season. He still has talent and is affordable, so he should be worth some draft collateral. If he can't be traded, then an outright release. Let him get picked up on waivers by Cleveland.
If they cut him in the offseason, how much dead cap space is there  
EmpireWF : 12/10/2017 6:15 pm : link
if any?
RE: get over yourselves  
Diver_Down : 12/10/2017 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13734028 bc4life said:
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underachieving 1st round draft pick, healthy scratch, reported attitude issues - tweets about highlights made by opposing player - yeah ur right, why get upset?


Also, as has been suspected, but many think it was Eli Apple who was one of the anonymous leaks.
RE: If they cut him in the offseason, how much dead cap space is there  
Diver_Down : 12/10/2017 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13734058 EmpireWF said:
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if any?


$8.9M
Bad Apple Contract - ( New Window )
RE: If they cut him in the offseason, how much dead cap space is there  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/10/2017 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13734058 EmpireWF said:
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if any?


$8.9 million.
RE: RE: For those slow on the uptake  
adamg : 12/10/2017 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13734053 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13734001 adamg said:


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Eli Apple retweeted a highlight of the Cowboys running back scoring on us today. He's still living in the past of his OSU days and being an overall shitty teammate.



Adam, I think he deleted the tweet of the cowboys highlight. But plenty of people saw it and called him out on it. There was another tweet or response to a tweet. Someone pointed it out in the game thread, but that also seems to be missing. Basically, someone asked him why he was inactive, and he responded that "I guess I'm too healthy" with a emoticon.

A number of issues beside being a shitty teammate. I thought the NFL had a restriction on player's tweeting during the game - active or inactive. Also, by saying that he is healthy despite the injury designation on the injury report, it questions the team's dealings. Are they making up the injury to stash a player instead of the shit storm if he was a healthy scratch? Can the NFL penalize the Giants for tinkering with the injury report?

I don't know what to make of it, but he is one that I would like to see traded this off-season. He still has talent and is affordable, so he should be worth some draft collateral. If he can't be traded, then an outright release. Let him get picked up on waivers by Cleveland.


I understand and agree with all you wrote.

The problem is that I don't know how much he is worth. Cockrell was had for a 7th round conditional pick. Apple was a first round pick and may only be able to net a 5th rounder? Or is it going to be even less?

What's the market on first round headcases who haven't reached their ceiling?
RE: RE: If they cut him in the offseason, how much dead cap space is there  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/10/2017 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13734064 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13734058 EmpireWF said:


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if any?



$8.9M Bad Apple Contract - ( New Window )


Beat me to it. Apparently nearly all first round contracts are fully guaranteed. Sucks for us.
Link to his Twitter  
Diver_Down : 12/10/2017 6:19 pm : link
but like I said, he has deleted some of the posts.
Bad Apple Twitter - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: For those slow on the uptake  
Diver_Down : 12/10/2017 6:22 pm : link
In comment 13734067 adamg said:
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In comment 13734053 Diver_Down said:


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In comment 13734001 adamg said:


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Eli Apple retweeted a highlight of the Cowboys running back scoring on us today. He's still living in the past of his OSU days and being an overall shitty teammate.



Adam, I think he deleted the tweet of the cowboys highlight. But plenty of people saw it and called him out on it. There was another tweet or response to a tweet. Someone pointed it out in the game thread, but that also seems to be missing. Basically, someone asked him why he was inactive, and he responded that "I guess I'm too healthy" with a emoticon.

A number of issues beside being a shitty teammate. I thought the NFL had a restriction on player's tweeting during the game - active or inactive. Also, by saying that he is healthy despite the injury designation on the injury report, it questions the team's dealings. Are they making up the injury to stash a player instead of the shit storm if he was a healthy scratch? Can the NFL penalize the Giants for tinkering with the injury report?

I don't know what to make of it, but he is one that I would like to see traded this off-season. He still has talent and is affordable, so he should be worth some draft collateral. If he can't be traded, then an outright release. Let him get picked up on waivers by Cleveland.



I understand and agree with all you wrote.

The problem is that I don't know how much he is worth. Cockrell was had for a 7th round conditional pick. Apple was a first round pick and may only be able to net a 5th rounder? Or is it going to be even less?

What's the market on first round headcases who haven't reached their ceiling?


I wouldn't even hazard a guess. But he is a cancer that need to be removed. Like the old saying, "one bad apple will spoil the bunch".
The kid seems not very bright and/or self aware  
BestFeature : 12/10/2017 6:30 pm : link
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Keep him on the team  
732NYG : 12/10/2017 6:37 pm : link
but bench him for the remainder of his contract. Good luck getting any interest from other teams after that
I think this link works  
malslayer : 12/10/2017 6:39 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
Yeah Id just let him ride the bench till  
beatrixkiddo : 12/10/2017 7:28 pm : link
His contract is up. He will waste while he doesnt get to improve the n his deficiencies and never get a second contract worth a damn. Hope he studied something and has other plans, cause he isnt long for the NFL. Sucks, what a shitty draft, at least we got Sheppard. Ive been patient with Apple, but his continued actions make me like him less and less, he isnt good enough of a player to justify his actions. He sucks and doesnt even play hard, what a bust.
If we decide to completely tear it all down  
dpinzow : 12/10/2017 7:32 pm : link
I eat his contract
RE: The kid seems not very bright and/or self aware  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/10/2017 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13734100 BestFeature said:
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And hides behind his mom, childish on many levels.
....  
yankees78 : 12/10/2017 7:35 pm : link
This kid is a dumbfuck
RE: I think this link works  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/10/2017 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13734128 malslayer said:
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. Link - ( New Window )


Wow. Just wow.
Omg just read his twitter  
DennyInDenville : 12/10/2017 7:51 pm : link
He was tweeting during the game??

Get this guy the fuck out of here ...

Guy is the most weak minded individual in big blue history.
.  
arcarsenal : 12/10/2017 7:56 pm : link
I can't keep track of what he tweeted/deleted/etc.. did he really post a highlight of Smith scoring on us?
arc  
yankees78 : 12/10/2017 7:58 pm : link
yup
16 year old brain  
mrvax : 12/10/2017 8:01 pm : link
in a 22 year old's body. He needs his first blanket party courtesy of Snacks.
RE: arc  
arcarsenal : 12/10/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13734377 yankees78 said:
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yup


Wow.

People vilify Beckham for things he posts - this is the sort of thing that deserves all the criticism it gets.

Apple is a loser.
Could you imagine coach parcells and eli apple?  
thrunthrublue : 12/10/2017 9:12 pm : link
Bill parcells, would most likely not have had eli apple on his grocery list, but if he was compelled to draft eli number one.....he would have groomed him from day one, and none of this nonsense would be occurring or it would be occurring, but not on the giants team more likely buffalo or Cleveland.
Wasn't he an Eagle fan?  
St. Jimmy : 12/10/2017 9:20 pm : link
Should be interesting to see what he tweets next week.

I don't know that there has been a Giant I have disliked more than this guy.
RE: RE: arc  
Danny Kanell : 12/10/2017 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13734394 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13734377 yankees78 said:


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yup



Wow.

People vilify Beckham for things he posts - this is the sort of thing that deserves all the criticism it gets.

Apple is a loser.


Youre becoming OBJs Britt.
Thank God  
Joey in VA : 12/10/2017 9:34 pm : link
We passed on Laremy Tunsil for Apple. I'm also thrilled that we passed on Gurley for Flowers. If Reese wasn't a dumb fuck we'd have a good OL and a stud RB but instead we have a lazy stupid CB, a LT who can't block and a shit head WR. Zach Martin, Laremy Tunsil and Todd Gurley or Odell, Flowers and Apple. Fuck you Jerry Reese.
Well....  
yankees78 : 12/10/2017 10:37 pm : link
Mama Apple (her twitter handle is @SurvivinAmerica) RT'd this

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@cj_wentz

NFC East Champs! So proud of the resiliency of this team. Such a special group of men.

And I greatly appreciate all the prayers! I know my God is a powerful one with a perfect plan. Time to just lean in to him and trust whatever the circumstances! #Proverbs3:5-6


Enjoy
Imagine if you could rip up all contracts given by a former GM?  
TommytheElephant : 12/10/2017 10:44 pm : link
Ha
I do hope the beat writers  
Diver_Down : 12/11/2017 7:28 am : link
look into Apple's "injury" further and his tweeting while a game is ongoing. I hate the content of his posts (highlights of other players against the Giants), but you can't stop him from speaking his mind. But they should look into if he actually has an injury or if the injury is only a cover to keep a malcontent from suiting up. Digging deeper was Apple one of the sources that were airing the dirty laundry earlier in the season? If so, why hasn't he been suspended with conduct detrimental to the team. By initiating such a suspension, it voids the guarantees in his contract allows the team to pursue repayment of prorated portions of the signing bonus.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 12/11/2017 8:01 am : link
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There have clearly been problems with Apple this season. One source said hes disliked within the organization. That would make sense given he has been shelved the past four weeks and has started only seven games this season.

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Apple should have been suspended for conduct detrimental to the team  
jlukes : 12/11/2017 8:05 am : link
weeks ago.
Whomever is in charge of mentoring the players  
JonC : 12/11/2017 8:07 am : link
needs to spend a lot of time with Apple, kid acts like a dipshit and is clearly painfully immature.
I think we just fired those guys  
Jimmy Googs : 12/11/2017 8:16 am : link
...
RE: Apple should have been suspended for conduct detrimental to the team  
Diver_Down : 12/11/2017 8:19 am : link
In comment 13734938 jlukes said:
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weeks ago.


I agree. But the timing of such action might have been another PR black-eye with his mother undergoing brain surgery at the time. There are just too many incidents that point to a short tenure with the team. In order to get out from under his contract, necessary administrative actions need to happen and that begins with a suspension that is conduct detrimental to the team.
I think he's trying to leave,  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/11/2017 8:21 am : link
get traded or released at this point. His reputation is being tarnished as a healthy scratch and this is his way of fighting back. i think the new coach will get a crack at him though.
RE: . . . .  
Diver_Down : 12/11/2017 8:28 am : link
In comment 13734934 jeff57 said:
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There have clearly been problems with Apple this season. One source said hes disliked within the organization. That would make sense given he has been shelved the past four weeks and has started only seven games this season.

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Thanks, Jeff. I hope this story continues to be shown the bright light and other beat reporters pick up the story.
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Diver_Down : 12/11/2017 8:47 am : link
In comment 13734964 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13734934 jeff57 said:


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There have clearly been problems with Apple this season. One source said hes disliked within the organization. That would make sense given he has been shelved the past four weeks and has started only seven games this season.

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Thanks, Jeff. I hope this story continues to be shown the bright light and other beat reporters pick up the story.


And so it begins...
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Britt in VA : 12/11/2017 3:30 pm : link
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Ralph Vacchiano‏Verified account
@RVacchianoSNY
4m4 minutes ago

Steve Spagnuolo said he was disappointed to hear CB Eli Apple was Tweeting during the game Sunday.


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Ralph Vacchiano‏Verified account
@RVacchianoSNY
1m1 minute ago

Steve Spagnuolo addressed what has been a rough year personally and professionally for CB Eli Apple, and said Hes got to step up and show his teammates and coaches that hes ready.
RE: Thank God  
WillVAB : 12/11/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13734607 Joey in VA said:
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We passed on Laremy Tunsil for Apple. I'm also thrilled that we passed on Gurley for Flowers. If Reese wasn't a dumb fuck we'd have a good OL and a stud RB but instead we have a lazy stupid CB, a LT who can't block and a shit head WR. Zach Martin, Laremy Tunsil and Todd Gurley or Odell, Flowers and Apple. Fuck you Jerry Reese.


And deandre Hopkins instead of Pugh.
RE: Thank God  
regulator : 12/11/2017 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13734607 Joey in VA said:
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We passed on Laremy Tunsil for Apple. I'm also thrilled that we passed on Gurley for Flowers. If Reese wasn't a dumb fuck we'd have a good OL and a stud RB but instead we have a lazy stupid CB, a LT who can't block and a shit head WR. Zach Martin, Laremy Tunsil and Todd Gurley or Odell, Flowers and Apple. Fuck you Jerry Reese.


You had me until Zach Martin over Odell. Even Dallas would take Beckham over Martin 100 times out of 100.
RE: RE: Thank God  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/11/2017 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13736356 regulator said:
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In comment 13734607 Joey in VA said:


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We passed on Laremy Tunsil for Apple. I'm also thrilled that we passed on Gurley for Flowers. If Reese wasn't a dumb fuck we'd have a good OL and a stud RB but instead we have a lazy stupid CB, a LT who can't block and a shit head WR. Zach Martin, Laremy Tunsil and Todd Gurley or Odell, Flowers and Apple. Fuck you Jerry Reese.



You had me until Zach Martin over Odell. Even Dallas would take Beckham over Martin 100 times out of 100.


Don't mind Joey. He's gotta find a way to mix in at least one shot at Beckham per week. Finding a way to fit a top five player in with failed and struggling draft picks is a new one.
RE: Thank God  
Knee of Theismann : 12/11/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13734607 Joey in VA said:
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We passed on Laremy Tunsil for Apple. I'm also thrilled that we passed on Gurley for Flowers. If Reese wasn't a dumb fuck we'd have a good OL and a stud RB but instead we have a lazy stupid CB, a LT who can't block and a shit head WR. Zach Martin, Laremy Tunsil and Todd Gurley or Odell, Flowers and Apple. Fuck you Jerry Reese.
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Dude WTF is wrong with you? Odell had the best first 3 seasons for a WR in the history of the NFL. Almost 300 catches, 5000+ yards, 35 TDs, even though he missed like 5 games his rookie season? Yeah really wish we didn't draft that once in a generation play-maker so we could have had Zack fucking Martin.

I was about to say hindsight is 20/20 until I read that part of your post, turns out your hindsight is on some Stevie Wonder shit.
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