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NGT: Eagles believe Wentz tore his left ACL

jlukes : 12/10/2017 7:51 pm
per Schefter tweet
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they had such an easy path, too  
SHO'NUFF : 12/10/2017 8:03 pm : link
I guess the Vikings, Saints or Rams do now.
RE: That’s football  
rebel yell : 12/10/2017 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13734388 Sammo85 said:
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Tough luck. I feel for a player getting hurt but have no problem seeing the Eagles and their fans suffer from it. Nobody was shedding tears for us when we lost Beckham.

All is not lost for the Eagles. Foles is capable and will definitely beat us next week for a nice confidence boost.

But if you are the Panthers or Saints your potential road to the Super Bowl got a little broader today.

And I don't recall them shedding any tears when Victor Cruz's career was basically ended in that horrible game against them. It's a brutal sport.
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Danny Kanell : 12/10/2017 8:07 pm : link
I hate the Eagles with every inch of my soul but this is absolutely brutal.
Eagles Super Bowl  
Mr. Nickels : 12/10/2017 8:10 pm : link
hopes crushed
Never like to see an injury  
B in ALB : 12/10/2017 8:10 pm : link
But it's still speculative at this point.

He might be OK in a couple weeks.

Or sooner. He's a big, strong kid.

Eagles and Rams with a great game today.
He had a nice year. But to repeat...  
Jimmy Googs : 12/10/2017 8:13 pm : link
you can't run too much as a QB b/c sooner or later you will get popped and its over.

Russell Wilson is the only guy I have ever seen escape injury by running a lot.

the only one....
RE: Never like to see an injury  
jlukes : 12/10/2017 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13734424 B in ALB said:
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But it's still speculative at this point.

He might be OK in a couple weeks.

Or sooner. He's a big, strong kid.

Eagles and Rams with a great game today.


The worst thing the Eagles could do is rush him back to the field and ruin him like the Redskins ruined RG3
NFLN  
BleedBlue : 12/10/2017 8:23 pm : link
posted his season is likely over
Bummer  
BH28 : 12/10/2017 8:24 pm : link
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RE: RE: Never like to see an injury  
B in ALB : 12/10/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13734456 jlukes said:
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In comment 13734424 B in ALB said:


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But it's still speculative at this point.

He might be OK in a couple weeks.

Or sooner. He's a big, strong kid.

Eagles and Rams with a great game today.



The worst thing the Eagles could do is rush him back to the field and ruin him like the Redskins ruined RG3


Or its the best thing.
As much  
Eli owns all : 12/10/2017 8:28 pm : link
As I hate Philly. That's awful news.
As much  
Eli owns all : 12/10/2017 8:29 pm : link
As I hate Philly. That's awful news.
Now we will win  
13ODB : 12/10/2017 8:31 pm : link
Next Sunday smh
I think the Eagles will be fine without them  
Essex : 12/10/2017 8:33 pm : link
I don’t think there defense is nearly as good as they think it is, but I do think their offense has been a nightmare to deal with schematically. Foles isn’t bad, and he was KC backup last year and knows this system really well. I think this could be a situation where foles surprises people.

As to Wentz, if he doesn’t move around, and run misdirections etc, he just isn’t the same qb. It’s easy to say not for him to do it, but if he doesn’t he isn’t nearly as effective. In other words, I am not sure if he is a guy who can drop back and just win games for you.
RE: Now we will win  
Matt in SGS : 12/10/2017 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13734504 13ODB said:
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Next Sunday smh


No, the Giants won't win. But neither will the Eagles in January.
RE: Now we will win  
Sammo85 : 12/10/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13734504 13ODB said:
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Next Sunday smh


Hahaha. No chance.

Eagles have Agholor really exploding, Jeffery playing well. They’ll have Ertz back and Ajayi and Blount on the ground on offense.

Plus Schwartz will have his defensive front going after Eli all game.
Problem for Wentz  
Sammo85 : 12/10/2017 8:39 pm : link
Is it looks like it’s his right knee/plant leg. Wouldn’t be shocked if he is
kept to a special rehab in training camp and misses first chunk of the season.
RE: Problem for Wentz  
jlukes : 12/10/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13734526 Sammo85 said:
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Is it looks like it’s his right knee/plant leg. Wouldn’t be shocked if he is
kept to a special rehab in training camp and misses first chunk of the season.


It's his left knee
RE: That’s football  
clatterbuck : 12/10/2017 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13734388 Sammo85 said:
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Tough luck. I feel for a player getting hurt but have no problem seeing the Eagles and their fans suffer from it. Nobody was shedding tears for us when we lost Beckham.

All is not lost for the Eagles. Foles is capable and will definitely beat us next week for a nice confidence boost.
Panthers?

But if you are the Panthers or Saints your potential road to the Super Bowl got a little broader today.
Mobile qbs pay the price  
bobtucker38 : 12/10/2017 9:12 pm : link
Don't complain when Eli is like a statue in the pocket,...we need a mobile quarterback.., really ..,,.well this is the price you pay.. I will gladly take 210 starts vs 29 ..... think about it
RE: they had such an easy path, too  
WillVAB : 12/10/2017 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13734398 SHO'NUFF said:
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I guess the Vikings, Saints or Rams do now.


NFC is tougher than AFC imo.
I specifically remember  
B in ALB : 12/10/2017 9:24 pm : link
an eagles broadcaster all kinds of happy when Victor Cruz destroyed his knee.

Guess karma ain't fuckin around.
Hate the eagles  
Banks : 12/10/2017 9:25 pm : link
But that sucks for wentz
I don't want to hear a freaking word from Eagles fans.  
Boy Cord : 12/10/2017 9:30 pm : link
Simms went down with a broken foot around this time during the 1990 season. I doubt there were any Eagles fans shedding tears for the Giants.

They can still win games with Foles. If any of those bitches whine to you, tell them to STFU.
Never  
LTPS5611 : 12/10/2017 9:33 pm : link
Want to see someone injured, but once they're on the injury report, don't necessarily want to see them come off. Anything that makes it more difficult for philly to win is ok in my book.
RE: I specifically remember  
St. Jimmy : 12/10/2017 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13734589 B in ALB said:
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an eagles broadcaster all kinds of happy when Victor Cruz destroyed his knee.

Guess karma ain't fuckin around.
Mike Missanelli. He always complains that Philly fans have a bad reputation. You could cut the irony with a knife.

Maybe he can dance to this.
I was invited along to a dinner party to watch that game  
mfsd : 12/10/2017 9:33 pm : link
with a bunch of Eagles fans...they’re pretty down right now. We’re all old enough now to talk football agreeably despite the mutual dislike of each other’s teams - one friend said this must be how you felt when Plaxico shot himself.

Had to admit to the similarities. Truth is, Foles is a better backup than most teams could trot out, and that team is still very good around him (those receivers are legit)...but no doubt their Super Bowl dreams took a big hit today
RE: Now we will win  
Joey in VA : 12/10/2017 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13734504 13ODB said:
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Next Sunday smh
Are we going to murder the Eagles defense man by man during the week? If so, sure maybe we can win. This team sucks and can't score, we're going to get murdered.
Is durability important?  
trueblueinpw : 12/10/2017 9:36 pm : link
Have to ask, because, you know, BBI. Anyway, yeah, I feel really bad for the Philthy Green Birds and their lovely fans. Get well soon Wentz.
RE: RE: Now we will win  
Boy Cord : 12/10/2017 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13734612 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 13734504 13ODB said:


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Next Sunday smh

Are we going to murder the Eagles defense man by man during the week? If so, sure maybe we can win. This team sucks and can't score, we're going to get murdered.


Don't worry. Foles will carve the Giants up.
RE: He had a nice year. But to repeat...  
Boy Cord : 12/10/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13734431 Jimmy Googs said:
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you can't run too much as a QB b/c sooner or later you will get popped and its over.

Russell Wilson is the only guy I have ever seen escape injury by running a lot.

the only one....


Vick, Cunningham, and Tarkenton last a long time. But it's a short list. Agreed about Wilson. He knows how not to take the big hit.
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Banks : 12/10/2017 9:39 pm : link
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I don't want to hear a freaking word from Eagles fans.  

Boy Cord : 9:30 pm : link : reply

Simms went down with a broken foot around this time during the 1990 season. I doubt there were any Eagles fans shedding tears for the Giants.

They can still win games with Foles. If any of those bitches whine to you, tell them to STFU.

Living in the area, I guarantee til the day I die, I will hear how this was an all time team that would have smoked any team in the playoffs. Many here believe they were the best team in 2002 and 2008 and talk about it like the stars had to align for them to lose.
They are the Eagles but, they were having a great year ....  
short lease : 12/10/2017 10:04 pm : link
I want them to lose but, I want them to lose on all cylinders. Seems like a good guy ... as someone mentioned above ... because we are so late in to this season if it is a tear ... this will take them way into next season.

Life in the NFL ... fortunes made or broken by inches or a thread.

Hope he is okay - Eagle or not.
He plays with reckless abandon  
joeinpa : 12/10/2017 10:13 pm : link
I ve felt all season the Eagles season could be derailed.

I never hope for anyone to get injured. I feel badly for some of my friends that are Eagle fans.

But it s not a fluke that he got hurt.
Fuck Wentz  
BigBlue in Keys : 12/10/2017 10:24 pm : link
And fuck the Eagles. Tired of hearing he's a nice guy. Fuck that team and their fans too. Them getting knocked out of the playoffs will be the only thing that saves this season.
Early reports that it may not be a full tear  
BigBlue4You09 : 12/10/2017 10:45 pm : link
MRI tomorrow
RE: Early reports that it may not be a full tear  
BH28 : 12/10/2017 11:31 pm : link
In comment 13734731 BigBlue4You09 said:
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MRI tomorrow


Ask Tannehill about rehabbing a partially torn ACL vs surgery. It's a ticking time bomb if he doesn't get it reconstructed. Good for the giants, so opt for rehab Carson!
In the esteemed words of Jay Cutler  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2017 11:42 pm : link
RE: I was invited along to a dinner party to watch that game  
WillVAB : 12/10/2017 11:50 pm : link
In comment 13734606 mfsd said:
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with a bunch of Eagles fans...they’re pretty down right now. We’re all old enough now to talk football agreeably despite the mutual dislike of each other’s teams - one friend said this must be how you felt when Plaxico shot himself.

Had to admit to the similarities. Truth is, Foles is a better backup than most teams could trot out, and that team is still very good around him (those receivers are legit)...but no doubt their Super Bowl dreams took a big hit today


A lot of people were on the Eagles bandwagon but they were never winning it all this year with or without Wentz. I can’t think of a QB outside of Brady who has even been to a SB his first time in the playoffs. This hurts the Eagles going forward because Wentz will not get that playoff experience and will most likely be out to start next year even if he has a full recovery.

People say it’s a down year but the NFC playoffs look to be surprisingly loaded. The Seahawks and Saints have two SB winning QBs and a ton of playoff experience. The Falcons and Panthers have been to SBs recently and have a lot of playoff experience. The Vikings have arguably the most talented roster in the league outside of the QB position. There’s also a chance GB could get in the backdoor with Rodgers likely back this week.
We can trade them  
spike : 12/10/2017 11:51 pm : link
Geno Smith
Foles is garbage  
Route 9 : 12/11/2017 2:06 am : link
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While a very unfortunate injury  
chopperhatch : 12/11/2017 2:17 am : link
And hes a good QB, how many more times are we going to watch players with his type of game have these injuries and how often do fanbases think their guy is the one exception.

Russell Wilson is literally the only guy who doesnt take those hits. But I think he is just on borrowed time at this point. You ALWAYS take a hit when you play that way.

Give e a guy like Eli who never takes hits, but gives up on plays to ensure he starts next week.
RE: RE: He had a nice year. But to repeat...  
chopperhatch : 12/11/2017 2:25 am : link
In comment 13734619 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13734431 Jimmy Googs said:


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you can't run too much as a QB b/c sooner or later you will get popped and its over.

Russell Wilson is the only guy I have ever seen escape injury by running a lot.

the only one....



Vick, Cunningham, and Tarkenton last a long time. But it's a short list. Agreed about Wilson. He knows how not to take the big hit.


Vick got hurt quite a bit.
RE: I think the Eagles will be fine without them  
bigbluescot : 12/11/2017 6:00 am : link
In comment 13734510 Essex said:
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I don’t think there defense is nearly as good as they think it is, but I do think their offense has been a nightmare to deal with schematically. Foles isn’t bad, and he was KC backup last year and knows this system really well. I think this could be a situation where foles surprises people.

As to Wentz, if he doesn’t move around, and run misdirections etc, he just isn’t the same qb. It’s easy to say not for him to do it, but if he doesn’t he isn’t nearly as effective. In other words, I am not sure if he is a guy who can drop back and just win games for you.


As I saw a stat that he Eagles are in 3rd and long more than any team not named the Cleveland Browns or Baltimore Ravens. Schematically it might be a great defense but Wentz's ability to move in the pocket and extend plays on 3rd and long is one of the main factors in their success. Shorn of that it'll be interesting to see how they get on.
Vick took stupid unnecessary hits running with the ball  
Route 9 : 12/11/2017 8:11 am : link
All the time. Did he ever start all 16 games in a season ever? I mean even once? I think so but it couldn't be more than that.
Vick was injured a lot. And I recall at least one (maybe 2)  
Jimmy Googs : 12/11/2017 8:15 am : link
seasons that Cunningham got popped in knee as well and was lost for year. He changed his style a lot after that...and also lost his job.

I feel very bad for Wentz  
Jay on the Island : 12/11/2017 10:05 am : link
I do not feel an ounce of sympathy for their fan base though.
Tough, tough break for Philly.  
Section331 : 12/11/2017 11:23 am : link
Wentz is tremendous, but Foles is a capable backup. Having a bye and home games will help, but I don't see them beating Minny or LA with Foles.
RE: Vick was injured a lot. And I recall at least one (maybe 2)  
Route 9 : 12/11/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13734948 Jimmy Googs said:
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seasons that Cunningham got popped in knee as well and was lost for year. He changed his style a lot after that...and also lost his job.


Yep remember him spitting up blood?

Yep. McNabb?

Romo? He even said it himself during one of the how he mistakenly thought he could bounce around and quickly stopped (or curtailed) because he realized these guys on defense in the NFL were moving assassins... or something along those lines
RE: He had a nice year. But to repeat...  
Jesse B : 12/11/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13734431 Jimmy Googs said:
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you can't run too much as a QB b/c sooner or later you will get popped and its over.

Russell Wilson is the only guy I have ever seen escape injury by running a lot.

the only one....
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He is smart about it he always runs out of bounds
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