Mike Florio was on SNF and reiterated that Dave Gettleman is the front runner but that Nick Caserio of the Pats and Eliott Wolf of the Packers are the two other candidates and will be considered.
Also said that if it’s Gettleman or Wolf, Jim Schwartz would be a likely HC. That’s a new name for HC to the mill. Said McDaniels would follow Caserio is he’s the GM pick.
Please and thank you
A) he's kind of a prick with a somewhat dirty history
B) he's an Eagle
C) his first stint as HC in Detroit was underwhelming
But here's the thing:
He might be the least bad option. There just aren't a ton of inspiring choices out there. And it's key for the Giants to at least get a "high floor" guy (which Schwartz is) given how much of a trainwreck NY is.
Not saying I love it, but I am saying they can do a lot worse.
Any idea what the coordinators would look like? I'm giving up on Caserio and Daniels ownership is never going to think outside the box.
It's a scary prospect to make him GM, I think. His track record in drafts is nowhere near his track record scouting veterans.
Also, his defenses are pretty good. Him working with Snacks and Tomlinson could be good
How many times does a coach (Weis, Crennell, Manzini, McDaniels) or personnel man (Pioli) have to strike out when striking out on his own for people to realize that New England's success is all about Belichick and Brady and everyone else is just along for the ride?
As for Schwartz: you’ve got to be kidding me with that dick. Mara would seriously sign off on having that fucking guy lead his team.
The Giants make this major move, the likes we haven't seen in 40 + years... only to turn around a hire the "family friend".
I can only hope these reports are lazy and false and the Giants will do a bit more digging before settling on the familiar.
but still- Caserio/McDaniels is the way to go
I think his tenure in Kansas City speaks for itself.
I don’t get that one
Gettleman is... eh. There are things I like about him, also things I don't. Would be a very.. Giants hire. For better or worse.
Schwartz has no connection to the organization, has a terrible reputation, and does not exactly coexist with the media.
If it is going to be Gettleman, which isn't a bad thing, I don't see what about that selection equates to Schwartz being a favorite.
I don’t get that one
Puzzled as well
Quote:
doesn't sound half bad to me. Two football guys. The Giant will be a tough team under the guidance of those 2.
but still- Caserio/McDaniels is the way to go
So they are going to wait until February to see if those guys want to leave New England or meet what the Giants are looking for? Are you nuts?
Not that my warming up to anyone or rolling my eyes means anything.
It’s like it would be rooting for a bunch of Stan in LA’s
Hiring him is something that my New York Mets would do
As for Schwartz it makes no sense to me. This is someone they will trust to handle the NY media and not start ranting like a lunatic? He's shown no evidence to suggest he's anything about a nutcase douchebag.
The Eagles have Doug Pederson’s back, even if Jim Schwartz doesn’t - ( New Window )
Quote:
If you like people with a Napoleanic complex.
It’s like it would be rooting for a bunch of Stan in LA’s
😂😂😂😂😂
Is this your way of saying that you’ve heard the same thing?
Do you think the Giants are floating Gettleman out there to gauge the reaction to it?
I mean if he was the guy, they’d probably just announce him already this week. Hopefully they have a solid process and listen to what kinds of views and plans and ideas are out there from the candidates. My fear is they retreat based on familiarity.
I just don’t see a lot of pros with bringing Gettleman back in. The front office needs a cleaning out. I wouldn’t even be wed to keeping Abrams.
There’s lots of guys out there who can manage the cap well.
Quote:
And not picked up on at all in another thread
Do you think the Giants are floating Gettleman out there to gauge the reaction to it?
I mean if he was the guy, they’d probably just announce him already this week. Hopefully they have a solid process and listen to what kinds of views and plans and ideas are out there from the candidates. My fear is they retreat based on familiarity.
I just don’t see a lot of pros with bringing Gettleman back in. The front office needs a cleaning out. I wouldn’t even be wed to keeping Abrams.
There’s lots of guys out there who can manage the cap well.
The pros are simple: he was doing a really good job in pro personnel and they didn't want to lose him. He had some petty differences with Richardson in Carolina and cut some sentimental favorites. Got them out of cap hell and winning games.
He was doing a good job in Carolina with a cheapskate owner, they just didn't like his style.
Strategy-wise, he cut all the over-expensive vets and locked up the young core players.
In comment 13734480 Milton said:
How many times does a coach (Weis, Crennell, Manzini, McDaniels) or personnel man (Pioli) have to strike out when striking out on his own for people to realize that New England's success is all about Belichick and Brady and everyone else is just along for the ride?
Quote:
In comment 13734572 hitdog42 said:
Quote:
And not picked up on at all in another thread
Do you think the Giants are floating Gettleman out there to gauge the reaction to it?
I mean if he was the guy, they’d probably just announce him already this week. Hopefully they have a solid process and listen to what kinds of views and plans and ideas are out there from the candidates. My fear is they retreat based on familiarity.
I just don’t see a lot of pros with bringing Gettleman back in. The front office needs a cleaning out. I wouldn’t even be wed to keeping Abrams.
There’s lots of guys out there who can manage the cap well.
The pros are simple: he was doing a really good job in pro personnel and they didn't want to lose him. He had some petty differences with Richardson in Carolina and cut some sentimental favorites. Got them out of cap hell and winning games.
He was doing a good job in Carolina with a cheapskate owner, they just didn't like his style.
Strategy-wise, he cut all the over-expensive vets and locked up the young core players.
I’m not talking about the pros in Carolina. The SB roster was largely a Hurney roster btw. I don’t give Gettleman a ton of credit for doing some pruning when he had no role in developing the core of the team. He also wasn’t just hated by the players and some of the coaches. His own scouting group there hated him.
There’s very few pros to him coming in here as GM at his age and considering our situation. He doesn’t address the core problem which is scouting and drafting and player development. That’s not his strong suit.
There might be some type of connection that is not so obvious.
The Packers seem to be a well run organization that drafts well and builds from within. So I would say thats one of the reason they are looking at Wolf. His name has been bandied about for a few years now.
One would think that they would leave no stone unturned, but it seems that with EA at the helm in his “consultancy” role....he’s just going to hire from the pool he knows best.
The dude from New England is intriguing, but McDaniel flamed out quicker than Mac did in Denver.
McDaniels hiring wouldn’t be inspiring to me.
Giants gotta get uncomfortable with this process
Gettleman is... eh. There are things I like about him, also things I don't. Would be a very.. Giants hire. For better or worse.
This is exactly how I see the situation as well. I want Caserio but not Josh McDaniels. I still want Vic Fangio for our HC but I doubt that ever happens
The Giants make this major move, the likes we haven't seen in 40 + years... only to turn around a hire the "family friend".
I can only hope these reports are lazy and false and the Giants will do a bit more digging before settling on the familiar.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling we'll find that it's not the reports that are lazy.
Quote:
In comment 13734534 Breeze_94 said:
Quote:
doesn't sound half bad to me. Two football guys. The Giant will be a tough team under the guidance of those 2.
but still- Caserio/McDaniels is the way to go
So they are going to wait until February to see if those guys want to leave New England or meet what the Giants are looking for? Are you nuts?
Pretty sure the Giants can interview them during the BYE in the playoffs, so early January. And with the proximity of the 2 teams, that won't be hard to arrange at all.