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GiantGrit : 12/10/2017 10:16 pm
could be named GM as early as mid-week. Generally curious, did we even interview any other people? I haven't heard a thing.
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RE: Isn't BigBlueView a modern version of BBI?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/11/2017 3:54 am : link
In comment 13734763 Canton said:
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Who could their sources be? Asshats like we have?

Does Slade have an account there too lol.


wait... there's a modern version of BBI?

See ya, suckas!
What a shock  
jeff57 : 12/11/2017 5:10 am : link
The Maras, true to form.
A joke  
13ODB : 12/11/2017 5:45 am : link
Rushing into things and won’t even wait until after the playoffs. John Mara doesn’t have a clue about what he’s doing.This team needed to get away from everyone associated with the Coughlin and Reese era, but no, let’s bring back a guy who has done an awful job with Carolina. Absolutely sickening, These idiots wanted Acorsi’s opinion... for what? He worked wit Gettleman of course he’s gonna recommend him. John Mara really went out on a limb with that one.
RE: Would be a good move  
13ODB : 12/11/2017 5:48 am : link
In comment 13734729 joeinpa said:
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Giants have been a winning franchise. I would like someone who is aware of and respects their traditions and way of doing things

Giants have had success promoting from within and Gettleman fits that criteria

I d also be ok with Schwartz as coach.

Those criticizing Mara for having the final word on a GM hiring, must not understand the role of a C. E. O.


Your clueless this would be a terrible move.
RE: A joke  
jeff57 : 12/11/2017 5:58 am : link
In comment 13734862 13ODB said:
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Rushing into things and won’t even wait until after the playoffs. John Mara doesn’t have a clue about what he’s doing.This team needed to get away from everyone associated with the Coughlin and Reese era, but no, let’s bring back a guy who has done an awful job with Carolina. Absolutely sickening, These idiots wanted Acorsi’s opinion... for what? He worked wit Gettleman of course he’s gonna recommend him. John Mara really went out on a limb with that one.


He’s not my choice, but he didn’t do an awful job in Carolina.
The More Things Change  
pa_giant_fan : 12/11/2017 6:05 am : link
The more they stay the same.
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HitSquad : 12/11/2017 6:10 am : link
Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.
RE: ...  
mfsd : 12/11/2017 6:13 am : link
In comment 13734871 HitSquad said:
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.


This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.
So we are going all in on  
section125 : 12/11/2017 6:15 am : link
a post at another website similar to BBI?

Brilliant!

If it ends up true seems funny that they didn't wait to interview more people and it would be contrary to taking their time to get it right.

Speaking of interviews, have there been any?
Who is BigBlueView?  
ZogZerg : 12/11/2017 6:20 am : link
any more reliable than some of the things we have seen here?
Typical Mara move.  
RottenApple : 12/11/2017 6:20 am : link
Half assed.
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Sammo85 : 12/11/2017 6:38 am : link
In comment 13734873 mfsd said:
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.


Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.
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mfsd : 12/11/2017 6:45 am : link
In comment 13734881 Sammo85 said:
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.



Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.


Have you paid attention to the team he built in Carolina?
Who was the candidate for the Rooney Rule?  
Diver_Down : 12/11/2017 7:06 am : link
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RE: Who was the candidate for the Rooney Rule?  
jeff57 : 12/11/2017 7:33 am : link
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Probably Reddick.
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HitSquad : 12/11/2017 7:44 am : link
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.



Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.



Have you paid attention to the team he built in Carolina?


Jerry Reese Starters/Key Players Drafted 2013-2017

Justin Pugh (decent but injury prone)
Jonathan Hankins (good player, but no longer on team)
Odell Beckham Jr. (superstar, but injured)
Weston Richburg (decent but injured)
Ereck Flowers (bust)
Bobby Hart (not very good)
Landon Collins (superstar)
Eli Apple (bust so far)
Sterling Shepard (good player but injured)
Darian Thompson (just ok)
BJ Goodson (looks decent, but injury prone)
Evan Engram (big time potential)
Dalvin Tomlinson (good player so far)
Wayne Gallman (decent player so far)


Dave Gettleman Starters/Kay Players Draft 2013-2017

Star Lotulelei (good player)
Kawann Short (stud player)
A.J. Klein (decent role player, but no longer on team)
Kelvin Benjamin (very good player, traded after GM fired)
Kony Ealy (decent rotational player)
Trai Turner (stud player)
Tre Boston (good role player turned starter, but no longer on team)
Daryl Williams (decent starter)
Devin Funchess (#1 receiver, big time potential)
Shaq Thompson (good player)
Vernon Butler (bust so far)
James Bradberry (decent starter)
Daryl Worley (decent starter)
Christian McCaffrey (big weapon so far, big time potential)
Curtis Samuel (incomplete, but has potential)
Harrison Butker (very good so far)

Gettleman and Reese are on different levels
...  
HitSquad : 12/11/2017 7:47 am : link
Butker and Ealy are no longer on Carolina...but you get the point. The eye for talent is there.
my fear  
giantfan2000 : 12/11/2017 7:58 am : link
the problem wasn't Reese but meddling ownership
RE: Is BigBlueView a credible source?  
Jesse B : 12/11/2017 8:10 am : link
In comment 13734755 Sarcastic Sam said:
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Me hopes not, me does.


I know Ed personally. He hears a lot but rarely posts because he doesn't consider himself to have a ton of good sources if he heard this it's probabaly from a Good source.
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mfsd : 12/11/2017 8:21 am : link
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.



Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.



Have you paid attention to the team he built in Carolina?



Jerry Reese Starters/Key Players Drafted 2013-2017

Justin Pugh (decent but injury prone)
Jonathan Hankins (good player, but no longer on team)
Odell Beckham Jr. (superstar, but injured)
Weston Richburg (decent but injured)
Ereck Flowers (bust)
Bobby Hart (not very good)
Landon Collins (superstar)
Eli Apple (bust so far)
Sterling Shepard (good player but injured)
Darian Thompson (just ok)
BJ Goodson (looks decent, but injury prone)
Evan Engram (big time potential)
Dalvin Tomlinson (good player so far)
Wayne Gallman (decent player so far)


Dave Gettleman Starters/Kay Players Draft 2013-2017

Star Lotulelei (good player)
Kawann Short (stud player)
A.J. Klein (decent role player, but no longer on team)
Kelvin Benjamin (very good player, traded after GM fired)
Kony Ealy (decent rotational player)
Trai Turner (stud player)
Tre Boston (good role player turned starter, but no longer on team)
Daryl Williams (decent starter)
Devin Funchess (#1 receiver, big time potential)
Shaq Thompson (good player)
Vernon Butler (bust so far)
James Bradberry (decent starter)
Daryl Worley (decent starter)
Christian McCaffrey (big weapon so far, big time potential)
Curtis Samuel (incomplete, but has potential)
Harrison Butker (very good so far)

Gettleman and Reese are on different levels


Thanks for taking the time to list these for comparison. Pretty much proves the point - Gettleman may not give people the warm and fuzzies, but he’s got a track record of drafting very well.
Fatman posted this and Eric pointed it out in his preview  
aimrocky : 12/11/2017 8:38 am : link
and I couldn't agree more. "What matters is not the type of changes made, simply that THE CORRECT changes are made."

Gettleman has an eye for talent and the b@lls to make tough decisions. I can get behind a guy like that. I don't like his age... I'd prefer not going through this process again in 3-4 years, unless the plan is to groom Abrams and elevate from within.
Don't  
AcidTest : 12/11/2017 8:57 am : link
want him but don't hate it. Would prefer a total rebuild with someone new. As others have said, he's 66, and won't be in the role for very long. Hiring him as a draft consultant would be fine, but GM seems too much at his age.
RE: Fatman posted this and Eric pointed it out in his preview  
jeff57 : 12/11/2017 8:58 am : link
In comment 13734974 aimrocky said:
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and I couldn't agree more. "What matters is not the type of changes made, simply that THE CORRECT changes are made."

Gettleman has an eye for talent and the b@lls to make tough decisions. I can get behind a guy like that. I don't like his age... I'd prefer not going through this process again in 3-4 years, unless the plan is to groom Abrams and elevate from within.


That's probably what the plan is.
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Sammo85 : 12/11/2017 9:01 am : link
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.



Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.



Have you paid attention to the team he built in Carolina?



Jerry Reese Starters/Key Players Drafted 2013-2017

Justin Pugh (decent but injury prone)
Jonathan Hankins (good player, but no longer on team)
Odell Beckham Jr. (superstar, but injured)
Weston Richburg (decent but injured)
Ereck Flowers (bust)
Bobby Hart (not very good)
Landon Collins (superstar)
Eli Apple (bust so far)
Sterling Shepard (good player but injured)
Darian Thompson (just ok)
BJ Goodson (looks decent, but injury prone)
Evan Engram (big time potential)
Dalvin Tomlinson (good player so far)
Wayne Gallman (decent player so far)


Dave Gettleman Starters/Kay Players Draft 2013-2017

Star Lotulelei (good player)
Kawann Short (stud player)
A.J. Klein (decent role player, but no longer on team)
Kelvin Benjamin (very good player, traded after GM fired)
Kony Ealy (decent rotational player)
Trai Turner (stud player)
Tre Boston (good role player turned starter, but no longer on team)
Daryl Williams (decent starter)
Devin Funchess (#1 receiver, big time potential)
Shaq Thompson (good player)
Vernon Butler (bust so far)
James Bradberry (decent starter)
Daryl Worley (decent starter)
Christian McCaffrey (big weapon so far, big time potential)
Curtis Samuel (incomplete, but has potential)
Harrison Butker (very good so far)

Gettleman and Reese are on different levels


Very generous on that Panther list and exceedingly negative on the Giants.
RE: Giants are easy money for Accorsi  
BlueHurricane : 12/11/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13734815 ghost718 said:
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10 years ago it was "Hire Jerry"

Ok Jerry is gone,Now what?

"Hire Dave"

Thanks Ernie,check is in the mail!





If it brings with it another Super Bowl in a ten year span we will all be very thankful to EA again.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 12/11/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13734871 HitSquad said:
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.


You're talking about players who were there when he got the job.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 12/11/2017 9:08 am : link
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Wait I'm confused.

I look at the roster Gettleman has put together down in Carolina and I can't help but wonder what is everyone complaining about?

This guy consistently hits on his draft picks and manages the cap well. Isn't that a GM's job?

Okay, so it looks like he's an asshole that the players hated. Well as fans it isn't like we'll ever have to spend time with him personally. We just have to watch the team he puts on the field...apparently he does a good job at that.



This. We don’t need him to be warm and fuzzy with the press or fans, we need him to draft good football players.



Well. Good luck. He didn’t exactly do any better than Reese in that department.



Have you paid attention to the team he built in Carolina?



Jerry Reese Starters/Key Players Drafted 2013-2017

Justin Pugh (decent but injury prone)
Jonathan Hankins (good player, but no longer on team)
Odell Beckham Jr. (superstar, but injured)
Weston Richburg (decent but injured)
Ereck Flowers (bust)
Bobby Hart (not very good)
Landon Collins (superstar)
Eli Apple (bust so far)
Sterling Shepard (good player but injured)
Darian Thompson (just ok)
BJ Goodson (looks decent, but injury prone)
Evan Engram (big time potential)
Dalvin Tomlinson (good player so far)
Wayne Gallman (decent player so far)


Dave Gettleman Starters/Kay Players Draft 2013-2017

Star Lotulelei (good player)
Kawann Short (stud player)
A.J. Klein (decent role player, but no longer on team)
Kelvin Benjamin (very good player, traded after GM fired)
Kony Ealy (decent rotational player)
Trai Turner (stud player)
Tre Boston (good role player turned starter, but no longer on team)
Daryl Williams (decent starter)
Devin Funchess (#1 receiver, big time potential)
Shaq Thompson (good player)
Vernon Butler (bust so far)
James Bradberry (decent starter)
Daryl Worley (decent starter)
Christian McCaffrey (big weapon so far, big time potential)
Curtis Samuel (incomplete, but has potential)
Harrison Butker (very good so far)

Gettleman and Reese are on different levels



Thanks for taking the time to list these for comparison. Pretty much proves the point - Gettleman may not give people the warm and fuzzies, but he’s got a track record of drafting very well.


None of those players from 2014 are on the team anymore. He's blown multiple first and second round picks. If the Giants had multiple drafts like this Eric's servers would be liquid.
I have no problem  
AnnapolisMike : 12/11/2017 9:13 am : link
with the Giants staying with guys who have been with the organization. By most accounts Gettleman is a good personnel guy and Mara knows what he is getting. If the Giants think he is the right guy...who am I to argue. I have seen 5 Giant Superbowls since I was 18. I am not in a position to really complain all that much.
And let's calm down with Funchess  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/11/2017 9:18 am : link
He hasn't done a damn thing to justify moving a second and a third round pick for. It's year three and he still hasn't had a 1000 yard season.
RE: RE: Isn't BigBlueView a modern version of BBI?  
Modus Operandi : 12/11/2017 9:18 am : link
In comment 13734851 SHO'NUFF said:
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Who could their sources be? Asshats like we have?

Does Slade have an account there too lol.



wait... there's a modern version of BBI?

See ya, suckas!


You clearly have never visited Shadow BBI.
Nothing against Gettleman,  
Section331 : 12/11/2017 9:19 am : link
but I think the Giants need to get out of their comfort zone for once. There needs to be a change in culture, that doesn't happen when you continually hire guys with ties to the organization.
The  
ryanmkeane : 12/11/2017 9:22 am : link
Reese vs Gettleman comparison is all well and good. But Reese had a very good track record as a GM before 2013. So...while Gettleman took some good players in that time frame, it's a pretty small sample size.
Not saying that he won't do well  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 9:22 am : link
But the maras seem more and more like terrified children grasping at the closest most familiar straws.

That said, the draft part, the part we fandom watch, is not rocket science, he may well do a rational job at it.

I have no issue with the Gettleman  
PatersonPlank : 12/11/2017 9:30 am : link
pick. His resume is better than most other candidates we have. Those wanting to hire a "no name" are taking a big chance like with McAdoo. Also I have yet to see one coaching or GM candidate that BBI likes, which tells me know on has any idea. If Gettleman is the guy then lets get it done and move forward. We need consistency now.
RE: I have no issue with the Gettleman  
Section331 : 12/11/2017 9:34 am : link
In comment 13735074 PatersonPlank said:
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pick. His resume is better than most other candidates we have. Those wanting to hire a "no name" are taking a big chance like with McAdoo. Also I have yet to see one coaching or GM candidate that BBI likes, which tells me know on has any idea. If Gettleman is the guy then lets get it done and move forward. We need consistency now.


I see your point, but I'm not sure the McAdoo comparison is appropriate. The problem with hiring McAdoo was that he had such a thin resume. 2 years as OC with the same organization, working under an offensive HC.

We forget that team brass runs into these guys all the time, so they are already going to have an impression of guys like Caserio and Wolf.
Well . the macadoo hire  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 9:38 am : link
Seems to have been done without any analytical thinking.

It's all relationship based, as opposed to concept based. So. Whereas it may work, its obviously very limiting in terms of your number of prospects.

The idea of moving people up, assistant GM's, heads of scouting... Of course that would be risky in the absence of concepts, analysis, and thinking about guiding goals, stats and so forth. Or in the absence of insider information from other teams..
Gettleman  
Sammo85 : 12/11/2017 9:42 am : link
Also took a 15-1 team and turned it into a 6-10 with just a few moves.
SMH  
Jay on the Island : 12/11/2017 11:37 am : link
Well at least they did their due diligence and interviewed um well nobody. How can they hire Gettleman without waiting to interview candidates like Wolf, DeCosta, Caserio, etc. Mara needs to be more open to change. Sure the McAdoo hire didn't work out but that shouldn't prevent them from hiring someone with no ties to the organization. Great so the plan is obviously to hire Gettleman then when he retires replace him with Abrams.
RE: Gettleman  
Emil : 12/11/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13735123 Sammo85 said:
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Also took a 15-1 team and turned it into a 6-10 with just a few moves.


Also worth noting that during Gettleman's four years the Panthers won the NFC South 3 times, in what is a very competitive division.
There's a report out there  
ryanmkeane : 12/11/2017 11:45 am : link
that Caserio is willing to listen. Outside of that, we have no idea whether Wolf or DeCosta would even consider the opening. So...let's give Mara the benefit of the doubt. There might be general knowledge within the football world that guys like Wolf and DeCosta are untouchable...we don't really know. They haven't interviewed anywhere else...ever.
At least the guy knows LBers  
Simms11 : 12/11/2017 11:49 am : link
and Oline. Hes a proven GM. I think he'd do ok, but how long could he stick around? Unless he would be a 5 year hire with Abrams getting groomed?!
RE: Gettleman  
Simms11 : 12/11/2017 11:51 am : link
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Also took a 15-1 team and turned it into a 6-10 with just a few moves.


You mean the year that Newton was hurt?!
RE: There's a report out there  
PerpetualNervousness : 12/11/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13735423 ryanmkeane said:
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that Caserio is willing to listen. Outside of that, we have no idea whether Wolf or DeCosta would even consider the opening. So...let's give Mara the benefit of the doubt. There might be general knowledge within the football world that guys like Wolf and DeCosta are untouchable...we don't really know. They haven't interviewed anywhere else...ever.


why in the world should we give this ownership the benefit of the doubt? the last signficant hire they made was another insider candidate who turned out to be a disaster.

and what in the world is the rush? there's no other currently open GM job that they're competing with. and even if there was, this would be the plum job to get - a chance to hire your own coach and a top two draft pick with an organization that doesn't hesitate to spend money. as other posters have said, maybe a professional approach that involves a thorough analysis of the Giants organization might be in order, as opposed to just calling up Ernie and asking him which of his buddies he likes best.
GT...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/11/2017 12:24 pm : link
Sorry - just saw this now - I've addressed this on some of the other threads though:

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FMIC
Go Terps : 12/10/2017 11:29 pm : link : reply
What was the word on Gettleman in Carolina? I heard on the Lombardi podcast that he ran himself out of town because he didn't want to overpay some of the sacred cows, which went contrary to Richardson. Was that your read?
Not my first choice


Behind the scenes, Jerry richardson was on board with letting Smith and Williams go - he just didn't want to be the bad guy - so Gettleman was happy to oblige. Where things went south is when Gettleman was looking at what to do with Olsen and Thomas Davis. He explored options of trading, restructuring and releasing them and the two guys complained to Richardson, and being his favorite players, they won and Gettleman lost.

But Richardson hasn't made many good decisions since his heart transplant. He took control away from the one son who actually had a decent football mind and he's had some really odd press conferences where he appears nearly out of it - and word is, he often is.

I don't hold the Carolina situation against Gettleman - in fact, it strengthens his reputation as being a hard-nosed GM, IMO.
FMIC  
Go Terps : 12/11/2017 12:59 pm : link
Thanks. I agree that that is a positive for Gettleman.
I agree with FatMan on this.  
Ira : 12/11/2017 2:46 pm : link
Gettleman has a vey good record in the two most important areas a gm has to deal with - evaluating talent and managing the cap. A good example of his drafting success was selecting James Bradberry late in the 2nd round - a small school corner who has played better than some first round picks that year (including our own).
OK. So presuming it's not a terrible choice  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 3:14 pm : link
Does he have the cajones and / or the insight to redirect Mara towards a forward thinking or at least rational choice of head coach and system?

Remember with macadoo they tried to use "progression not revolution" which turned out to mean something less than all that
I think it's fair to say that 90% fans  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 3:20 pm : link
Expect a wholesale dumping of the current offensive offensive theme.

So. In addition to a decent head scout talent and scouting group you need a system guru or proven functionary with a clear vision.

Who? And which system.

I have been pushing outside zone running and play action ala Atlanta etc. Others think Pat's can be copied.

...?...
Head coach I mean  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 3:22 pm : link
.
Next Fall  
idiotsavant : 12/11/2017 3:31 pm : link
We don't really expect more OLers sitting passively on their heels waiting for attacking DLs and LBs and the quick short just in time dump off pass 'as a run'.

There is no 'progressing' out of that silliness.
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