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djstat : 12/11/2017 1:22 pm
This guy IMO has brought nothing to the team. He plays hard but makes a lot off coin for little return.

His decision to keep kneeling seems to be a ploy to keep attention for himself and then that ridiculous cheap shot yesterday.
I guess you don’t value  
Tuckrule : 12/11/2017 1:41 pm : link
Stopping the run at all
What do you mean?  
Jimmy Googs : 12/11/2017 1:54 pm : link
I saw Vernon in on a tackle yesterday.

Yeah, I definitely saw at least one. And he even would have gotten a sack if Dak didn't try really hard to get out of it.

way too overly critical...
Vernon plays hard and is good against the run  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/11/2017 1:57 pm : link
But gets dinged up a ton and has not gotten home in a while. Feel like he is better suited as a 3-4 OLB rather than an undersized 4-3 DE.

People who says he doesn't give effort are watching different games.
I do think he gives a ton of effort...  
SeanLandeta : 12/11/2017 2:16 pm : link
that just doesn't result in much as far as pass rush is concerned. I don't hold lack of sack numbers against Harrison because that isn't his primary job, but Vernon's primary job is to get to the QB - which he doesn't do (unless late for a 15 yard penalty counts).

He's been a bust of a free agent acquisition. No way around it when he is paid the way he is...
Wow  
Bernie : 12/11/2017 2:26 pm : link
I did not realize a player can get an $85 million contract with $52.5 million guaranteed just for effort. His production has not come anywhere close to what the expectations were.

This was a fools gold signing.
so when he was elite last year  
hitdog42 : 12/11/2017 2:27 pm : link
was he a good signing?
Vernon and JPP...  
BamaBlue : 12/11/2017 2:31 pm : link
are both very disappointing in a very disappointing season. Vernon occasionally shows some hustle and makes the occasional play. JPP exerts ALL his effort running on and off the field.
RE: Vernon plays hard and is good against the run  
Rjanyg : 12/11/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13735774 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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But gets dinged up a ton and has not gotten home in a while. Feel like he is better suited as a 3-4 OLB rather than an undersized 4-3 DE.

People who says he doesn't give effort are watching different games.


I tend to agree. 2 of our highest paid players could be very good in the 3-4, Snacks and Vernon. Snacks is a great NT and Vernon has experience playing in a 2 point stance. JPP doesn't get heat off the edge enough IMO and is better against the run. He looks heavy and is more of a 5 Tech to me. If Tomlinson could learn the 5 Tech it would be a matter of adding another OLB with Pass Rush ability. Even Avery Moss looks like more of an OLB.

If it makes our defense more effective then it should be explored.
I remember several successful runs on Vernons side yesterday  
OdellBeckhamJr : 12/11/2017 3:41 pm : link
fwiw
I think he has a good motor and plays hard, but he is not very  
Victor in CT : 12/11/2017 4:16 pm : link
impactful. They way overpaid for him out of desparation. Reason # 27 on the "Why Jerry Reese was Fired" countdown.

The JPP contract extension is reason # 26.
RE: so when he was elite last year  
djstat : 12/11/2017 5:16 pm : link
In comment 13735855 hitdog42 said:
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was he a good signing?
He was Elite last year?
First  
PaulN : 12/11/2017 5:50 pm : link
When was Vernon ever elite, NEVER, is the answer. He is almost a bust signing when you look at what he is getting paid, he stinks for the money. You don't pay a guy like a franchise DE and get this production unless you are Jerry Reese and you have blown 4 drafts in a row. This is just starting with what Reese has done to this franchise, this is the tip of the iceberg, it is going to get real fucking dark around here when the new group is here and tries to fix this fucking mess.
He made all pro when healthy last year  
Banks : 12/11/2017 6:35 pm : link
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since I don't know the degree his ankle is injured
Another one of  
mdc1 : 12/11/2017 8:08 pm : link
Jerry's fools.
RE: RE: so when he was elite last year  
hitdog42 : 12/11/2017 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13736257 djstat said:
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In comment 13735855 hitdog42 said:


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was he a good signing?

He was Elite last year?


If you have to ask that question you should probably stop commenting on players.
I keep going back to 2016 preseason with Vernon.  
Powerclean765 : 12/11/2017 8:31 pm : link
Before he hurt his hand.

Looked like Michael Strahan. Best player on the team good.

Not sure if it's just injuries but haven't seen that guy since.
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