Should the Giants Cut Apple?

If they could trade him for a conditional 3rd round pick I would do it but the Giants need to see how he responds working under a new coaching staff. If he continues to behave like an 8 year old then the Giants should trade him for whatever they can get.

You coach him and develop him.

Legit doesn't even get to dress until 2019


And in 2019 I make him a FS incase he plays well so he gets paid less then a good CB

Give him a fresh start he looked real good his first year

I don't suspect it will be much.

He sounds like he's terrible with adversity, but new coaching and a fresh start should at least be tried.

at least try & get something for his sorry ass

the new HC and staff are, he should start with a clean slate. That said, someone needs to take him aside and let him know the score. The kid's 22, and I'm not ready to give up on him yet.

At odds you keep him. The main culprit of his angst has been fired so let the new coach have a shot. If he keeps it up, make an example out of him.

Since then problems have seemed to snowball. Unless there are things we can't see, he should definitely have the opportunity to shape up under a new regime. If he can't, or doesn't want to get with the program, they can make a decision to cut him.

A club needs an effective program and a positive culture, and no matter how talented a player may be, if he can't work within it, both he and the club are better off without him.

But his is The Post, and really more about writing something sensational rather than a product of sober deliberation.

I don't know if I'd cut him but he seems like a real loser.

Spank him.

It's best to not allow emotions to influence a businesses decision.

He is young and immature, hopefully with an off season to self reflect he grows up a little and comes back more mentally prepared.

but eventually became good players and in some cases pro bowlers. A talented 22 year old? Too soon to say sayonara.

No. He could have a breakout season coming up.

Maybe he can get through to him

Let's take all the guys who did not react well to losing this year and cut them. Or trade them for pennies on the dollar.

Oh wait - maybe try to salvage them with a fresh start and new regime?

If you can't trade him, keep him next season and see if you can bleed a little maturity and talent out of him. If not, then cut him.

This season had enough ridiculous in it to let it go another season and see if Apple can change his spots.

But that should be a short leash next year...

remember he had problems - then in playoff run he shined

Bench him for a year as punishment? Trade him for nothing? He is a young guy with physical talent on a rookie salary deal. Why would you do anything other than see what you could squeeze out of him with a new coaching staff? Sure he may be a huge bust, but there is no reason to try and jump to that conclusion as quickly as possible.

They would be smart to start with a clean slate but also put him on notice that after 2 seasons in the league, he's not a rookie anymore and he has to act like a pro. If he can't, yeah, he could be cut. That would send a message.

but McAdoo didn't build a locker room culture conducive to prospering. I'd prefer not selling low on the kid, because the talent is certainly there. Give the new staff a shot to resurrect him.

but he is talented. He went through a major adjustment period early in college too. Don't give up just yet, but he is running out of chances.

more chance. And I mean boy as compared to a man. If he doesn't shape up with the new coaches, then I'd be done with him. To the pit of misery!

Cutting him would cause a big cap hit

I'd take an Apple Watch or an Apple TV

In comment 13735891 giantfan2000 said:

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remember he had problems - then in playoff run he shined

Corey Webster was never a recklessly immature asshole. That wasn't Webster's problem.

Yeah, yeah, Apple is still a "kid." But how likely is it that an early 20-something who acts like this changes for the better as he ages?

This isn't a laziness thing or slow-learner thing or a lack of confidence thing. This isn't a young Amani Toomer or Corey Webster situation. This is one of the shittiest attitudes I've seen from a Giant player perhaps ever.

He needs to be addressed. But he's young and as others have said, showed something his rookie year.

But yeah, someone needs to get in his ear, now, and loudly.

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lumped in with McAdoo's short coaching tenure? WHAT???
He should have been fired with, if not instead of, Coughlin.

He mentioned when he watches games on his TV at home, he practices turning his head around everytime there is long pass downfield.

In comment 13735914 ron mexico said:

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Cutting him would cause a big cap hit

If they suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team, that designation will void all future guarantees and allow the team to pursue repayment of the prorated portion of the signing bonus. Doing so, it makes the trade of the player more appealing to another club where they no longer have to guarantee his future salaries. He basically becomes a player on a year to year contract until he becomes a free agent.

He's a cancer. You can not allow him to infect the locker room. The new GM/HC deserve a clean slate.

goose-stepping down the streets of Berlin on the history channel...

In comment 13735842 djstat said:

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You coach him and develop him.

+1. He is very immature at this point.

Corey Webster needed time, too

you work to mentor and help the punk grow up.

When this was supposed to be a justifiable pick because it�s mandatory teams have 3 quality corners? Good times.

Regarding this clown, you wait and let the new coach decide. If the new coach doesn�t want him you try to trade him or cut him.

but remember, we never hear the whole story. But he does seem immature, and the argument can be made that if Reese didn't know this, he should have. Those clips of him playing against San Fran were infuriating.

In any case, I don't know if you cut him. Immature guys do grow up. A new coaching staff should start with a fresh slate with him and see what happens.

him mature but he doesn't seem all that interested in playing tackle football. Not sure that can change, will be happy if it does.

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Ralph Vacchiano‏Verified account @RVacchianoSNY 4m4 minutes ago Steve Spagnuolo said he was �disappointed� to hear CB Eli Apple was Tweeting during the game Sunday.

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Ralph Vacchiano‏Verified account @RVacchianoSNY 1m1 minute ago Steve Spagnuolo addressed what has been a rough year personally and professionally for CB Eli Apple, and said �He�s got to step up and show his teammates and coaches that he�s ready.�

on a first round pick. He's been pretty bad, and shown some immaturity, but given the personal shit he's dealing with, I'd be willing to give him something of a pass.

Sit him down and let him know that his play and his recent behavior are unacceptable, and get his assurances that he wants to play football, and wants to play for the NY Giants. If not, tell him we'll trade him to Cleveland.

ass that he needs from a maturity standpoint, and the coaching he needs to bring out the talent he has.

Tom Rock‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday

Asked DRC if he is worried about Eli Apple.

�No, no, no, no, no, no. (Pause.) Sometimes.�

Dude is hilarious.

In comment 13736075 adamg said:

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Dude is hilarious.

And yet the majority of BBI can't wait to run him out of town. At $6M/yr, he is a bargain and the only player that is consistently running guys down giving 100% effort.

kid is a hot mess. I don't understand his thought process. Both him and his mother are extremely immature.

They had to beg him to stay in the building when they put his quit on TV for all to see. Fuck him, no one should have stopped him. You can't win with people like that. He should have cried and begged the forgiveness of his teammates. Begone.

In comment 13736086 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 13736075 adamg said: Quote: Dude is hilarious. And yet the majority of BBI can't wait to run him out of town. At $6M/yr, he is a bargain and the only player that is consistently running guys down giving 100% effort.

I'm a big DRC fan. So, I'm not among those who would run him out of town. Same with Jackrabbit. I think we've got our lock down guys in place. I'd be in favor of a Cockrell extension too. Our secondary hasn't been a weak point this year. It's been DEs and LBs. Moss seems like he could steal a starting job too. He makes plays. There's a lot to be optimistic about in a year where we're getting a new GM and HC, relatively speaking.