to the players we are putting out there now because of injuries? 2 starting OL in Jerry and Flowers and only Shepherd at WR. No running game. This offense is bad and I don't know what kind of read you will get. It does protect Eli. This season can't end quick enough.
the money paying customers. Eli is done at best he has 1 more yr here IF they decide to go all in and cap and $$$ be damned to get him 1 more shot. Maybe to if we have good luck, something we seem to never have in abundance.
Granted, the offensive side of the ball is decimated Â
with injuries, but you can still make evaluations on Webb. How does he go through his progressions, how well does he anticipate pressure (he'll have plenty of opportunity!), how does he do with defenders at his feet, does he deliver the ball on time? It's not ideal, but he is certainly worth taking a look at. I don't see the justification for not playing him.
to the players we are putting out there now because of injuries? 2 starting OL in Jerry and Flowers and only Shepherd at WR. No running game. This offense is bad and I don't know what kind of read you will get. It does protect Eli. This season can't end quick enough.
It may show something. It may show nothing. Could be a surprise how he operates under pressure. At the very least he get's some experience.
...for this Giants regime to go into the next year with blinders on. If they draft a QB in the first round without ever seeing what Webb can do...its proof positive that this regime is a clueless bunch of men that all need to be fired. He doesn't have to start to protect Eli's sensitive pride, but to draft this guy and have a season that was over way back in October...to not even see him play, should be a felony.
Not sure how much you would learn about Webb in this situation where failure is near a sure thing. It would let him get his feet wet and that may be all.
This crap of putting him out there with this talent Â
Why not treat the damn thing like its preseason and see of the kid can move the ball up the field. It is not like we care if we lose. Look he doesn't play we will draft a QB and he never gets a chance at all so who cares.
it's also about growth and experience. You have an asset and this is the perfect opportunity (where a loss or poor performance doesn't hurt) to develop that asset - if for no other reasons than future trade value.
...for this Giants regime to go into the next year with blinders on. If they draft a QB in the first round without ever seeing what Webb can do...its proof positive that this regime is a clueless bunch of men that all need to be fired. He doesn't have to start to protect Eli's sensitive pride, but to draft this guy and have a season that was over way back in October...to not even see him play, should be a felony.
They already fired the GM and Coach. What would you like to see next? Mara firing himself? Knowing the playbook is one thing but making crucial calls at the line of scrimmage is where the great QB's shine. I would assume Davis is just not able to make these adjustments yet and would get killed out there.
it's also about growth and experience. You have an asset and this is the perfect opportunity (where a loss or poor performance doesn't hurt) to develop that asset - if for no other reasons than future trade value.
Bingo. Play him. Nothing better for a QB than low expectations. If you can't take a few hits than football isn't your sport and besides, we should know that too. No sign of this Oline getting better any time soon. Also, at this point if Eli leads the team to a win that doesn't do much for the organization other than get us a worse draft pick. If Webb is capable of winning games it offsets the loss in draft value to properly evaluate an investment you already made.
Give the kid an away game in nice weather. The Eagles are going to destroy us, if they want to play him in mop up duty that's ok, but he's not set up for success in that game.
they need to make him the #2 and so he can get the right reps in practice. Right now, I'd be surprised if he's getting any reps?! He's not going to play unless he's getting the right reps in practice and as long as Eli is starting and Geno is the #2, then we probably won't see him at all this year. He'll continue to be inactive and track plays on game day. I see Eli playing the season out and the last game against the Redskins might just be Eli's Swan Song!
only be mildly surprised if Webb is traded on draft day. The new GM has no investment in Webb, and therefore no loyalty to him. Webb would also take snaps away from the presumed #1 draft pick QB.
Right now, Webb is an unknown. Bad play, even in this situation, might reduce his trade value.
Of course, the opposite could also be true, namely that the Giants have already decided that he will likely succeed Eli, and don't want to damage their investment by putting him in meaningless games with this offense.
Geno Smith right now fearing the veterans around the league will say the Giants don’t care about the player blah blah blah and the fallout from the negative press it would create .
if a qb out of college doesn't know how to take snaps from center, WTF! Apparently Giant brass thinks it takes a red shirt year to learn this.....and yet, he was not getting any of those snaps up until recently....what is wrong with this picture?
will be available by throwing him on the field with this depleted roster? What will he be able to prove or disprove by getting his brains beat in by Fletcher Cox et. al? The assessment is he isn't ready to play. Those in the media calling for him to start are pushing a concept, and a facile one at best -- team stinks, starting QB on the downside, start Webb, nothing to lose. Except there is, the integrity of the franchise by putting an ill-prepared player at risk as well as the kid's future.
...for this Giants regime to go into the next year with blinders on. If they draft a QB in the first round without ever seeing what Webb can do...its proof positive that this regime is a clueless bunch of men that all need to be fired. He doesn't have to start to protect Eli's sensitive pride, but to draft this guy and have a season that was over way back in October...to not even see him play, should be a felony.
They already fired the GM and Coach. What would you like to see next? Mara firing himself? Knowing the playbook is one thing but making crucial calls at the line of scrimmage is where the great QB's shine. I would assume Davis is just not able to make these adjustments yet and would get killed out there.
It’s just football dude it’s not like he’s going to Iraq and this kids been doing it since he was 8 years old and he didn’t look all flustered in his limited preseason action ..... some people act like NFL football is brain surgery
Should absolutely get the start! It's called common sense. He has had plenty of time to work on his pro game. Let see what kind of potential the kid may have.. Dnt expect him to throw 4 touchdowns but see how he handles the pro game...
Unless they’ve made up their mind based on practice. He could be waaayyy behind in their eyes. That would be awful. But given Reese’s third round pick history it wouldn’t surprise me.
It may show something. It may show nothing. Could be a surprise how he operates under pressure. At the very least he get's some experience.
I would like to see him play just out of curiosity, but I don t agree Giants have blinders on.
Webb gets a chance to compete next season, they ll know what they have.
If it turns out he s their starter, having another young good quarterback is a good asset
They already fired the GM and Coach. What would you like to see next? Mara firing himself? Knowing the playbook is one thing but making crucial calls at the line of scrimmage is where the great QB's shine. I would assume Davis is just not able to make these adjustments yet and would get killed out there.
I can't decide if I want Webb to play so the threads stop or if I don't want him to play just to see pissed off fans. Both choices have some upside...
Bingo. Play him. Nothing better for a QB than low expectations. If you can't take a few hits than football isn't your sport and besides, we should know that too. No sign of this Oline getting better any time soon. Also, at this point if Eli leads the team to a win that doesn't do much for the organization other than get us a worse draft pick. If Webb is capable of winning games it offsets the loss in draft value to properly evaluate an investment you already made.
Week 15 -> Davis
Week 16 -> Eli
Right now, Webb is an unknown. Bad play, even in this situation, might reduce his trade value.
Of course, the opposite could also be true, namely that the Giants have already decided that he will likely succeed Eli, and don't want to damage their investment by putting him in meaningless games with this offense.
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...for this Giants regime to go into the next year with blinders on. If they draft a QB in the first round without ever seeing what Webb can do...its proof positive that this regime is a clueless bunch of men that all need to be fired. He doesn't have to start to protect Eli's sensitive pride, but to draft this guy and have a season that was over way back in October...to not even see him play, should be a felony.
They already fired the GM and Coach. What would you like to see next? Mara firing himself? Knowing the playbook is one thing but making crucial calls at the line of scrimmage is where the great QB's shine. I would assume Davis is just not able to make these adjustments yet and would get killed out there.
It’s just football dude it’s not like he’s going to Iraq and this kids been doing it since he was 8 years old and he didn’t look all flustered in his limited preseason action ..... some people act like NFL football is brain surgery
No, we can't start Webb!
I can't decide if I want Webb to play so the threads stop or if I don't want him to play just to see pissed off fans. Both choices have some upside...
Just use your common sense and agree with the thread proposition. That usually makes the threads go away...agreement.
I believe the Redskins and Cardinals are out of it aren’t they ?
Unless they’ve made up their mind based on practice. He could be waaayyy behind in their eyes. That would be awful. But given Reese’s third round pick history it wouldn’t surprise me.