... in the workplace?
I've always been fortunate enough to work with very cool, realistic women in the handful of jobs I've held after college. I've always had a significant other along the way, and the one time I dated a co-worker, she was in a different department and we worked different shifts, so even if there was a temptation to be flirty at work, the opportunity was never there, so no worries.
I do recall a couple women I worked with when I was 32-25 age range. They were both older and my wife and I became solid friends with them and their husbands (they were at our wedding, we did Christmas parties in the same circle, that sort of thing.) And the closest it ever got was us joking one day about how we all WISHED someone would sexually harass us ... and how that might be nice for a change.
Obviously, an opportunity for jokes here. But curious if folks here have witnessed it, been in the middle (receiving, of course, since no BBIer would ever stoop) ... that sorta thing.
(((Someone rush to the obligatory MP photo, to get it out of the way.)))
Every year someone would get fired, for cheating on their spouses with other employees while on this strip. The last one I was on 3 people were canned upon arriving home.
Many years ago at a different job the boss had a party at his house. Can't recall the event, but it was a Sunday noon-to-evening sort of thing. Next morning we were learning about a guy we worked with, relatively new guy, who went home to his apartment complex, was apparently hammered, got a knife, went to his complex's laundry facility/pool house and held a Japanese woman at knife-point. Forced her into a closet and to undress. She got away. Her husband worked for Toyota at a southern Indiana plant and she spoke little English but she ID'd the guy. Yeah, he went to jail. That's bit past "harassment," though. Dude was clearly fucked up.
Every year someone would get fired, for cheating on their spouses with other employees while on this strip. The last one I was on 3 people were canned upon arriving home.
Were they fired for having sex with co-employees? Or were they fired solely because they had sex while married to someone else?
The VP was really careless, storing his expense reports in an unlocked file cabinet in an open bay area. A couple of the women went through his expense reports, and found charges for personal items, including hotel rooms in NY. This time, they went to HR, and he was frog marched out of the office. He got divorced, and died of a heart attack a short time later.
I remember thinking I didn’t want to make a big deal or hurt her job standing, just wanted it to stop, so I never brought it up with HR or management.
Several months later I took a new position with the company that required relocating, so nothing came of it.
Then a year later she reported a friend of mine for looking up an NSFW website, and he got fired. I was pissed and wanted to throw her under the bus in retaliation...but deep down, I knew my buddy was guilty as charged and doing that wouldn’t save his job, so let it go.
Point being, I’m sympathetic to those who endure it, and the stress/uncertainty about whether it’s appropriate to bring up or not. And anyone who thinks it’s only men doing it to women is naive.
She was always on the flirty side... but I never reciprocated that (IMO). I was polite but stand-offish.
Anywho, she came over... moved my knees apart with her hands... moved her body into that space... and started laying hands on me.
Heck no... I hopped down and away immediately... I didn't know quite what to do, so I played it off with a laugh and said something like we need to finish up and get home... she didn't try any further advances.
FTR: I was in a relationship... to say nothing of the fact that it was the damn cash room and there were cameras everywhere... heck, someone could have been monitoring in the other room. Heck no.
Nothing came of it. Didn't report her. Over the course of time... she gained a reputation of someone who sleeps around... multiple dudes who worked there had stories about her. She probably had some sort of issue with the need for sex and attention, that's the way she came across to me.
One time in the World Trade Center, 2 traders were getting it from prostitutes they brought up. They were both fired the next day.
Other than that, just a bunch of senior male employees having sex with female subordinates.
l never thought these stories were true, until about ten years ago l had an experience that changed my mind.
l just had to share it with you.
l had resigned myself to another day of reading your magazine at my desk when there was a knock on my office door.
And when I opened the door, I could hardly believe my eyes.
There were two of the foxiest twins I had ever seen with long brunette hair, legs that wouldn't quit......
In today's climate some if the kidding that went on both ways might be labeled differently l, but not then.
This one time he helps her computer situation and she wants to bring it in for a hug. lol. He's an unassuming, decent guy, so he does ... at lunchtime that day he's telling us that when she gave the hug, she both-hands grabbed his ass and (she's a big lady) actually picked him up a little bit. By the ass grope. lol
We were all so entertained (males and females) and he was joking about it ... nothing else occurred. It's just different when you're a guy, I guess. It's less of a deal, I suppose, since you really don't feel threatened.
I understand there are situations where it would be much more difficult. This one, though, was just funny as hell.
How the fuck do guys just drop their pants and "take it out" at work? lol I really don't get it. Do they truly see this as a non-issue? Gotta be mental problems in those cases.
My sexual harassment story
I would hope he would be fired for shitting on some lady bits.
On a Friday afternoon, I am getting ready to leave for the day and she calls my extension and she tells me she put an envelope in my mailbox up front, but told me not to open it at work. I retrieved the envelope from my mailbox and went home. In the envelope was a six page letter telling me her ultimate sexual fantasies in graphic detail. I was mortified.
I returned to work on Monday. I walked into the break room shortly after arriving to get a cup of coffee and she walked in. She asked me if I read her letter. I told her that I did, and I did not appreciate her placing it in my mailbox. I told her I was not interested in her, I never had been interested in her and if she persisted, I would turn the letter over to HR. The look she gave me was a look of hurt and shock. I had already made it clear to her in the past that I was not interested in her.
She never said another word to me again.
Quote:
One of the male directors had a squirt gun and shit a few women in their private parts area. Immature as hell. He was canned.
I would hope he would be fired for shitting on some lady bits.
In some parts of Asia, people pay good money for stuff like that.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
Quote:
But my gf - who has worked for the VA going on twenty years has plenty if stories. Guys pulling dropping their pants and pulling out their junk, etc. Most of them are still working there from what I understand.
How the fuck do guys just drop their pants and "take it out" at work? lol I really don't get it. Do they truly see this as a non-issue? Gotta be mental problems in those cases.
It's been more than one guy...
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
l never thought these stories were true, until about ten years ago l had an experience that changed my mind.
l just had to share it with you.
l had resigned myself to another day of reading your magazine at my desk when there was a knock on my office door.
And when I opened the door, I could hardly believe my eyes.
There were two of the foxiest twins I had ever seen with long brunette hair, legs that wouldn't quit......
exactly.
I remember thinking I didn’t want to make a big deal or hurt her job standing, just wanted it to stop, so I never brought it up with HR or management.
Several months later I took a new position with the company that required relocating, so nothing came of it.
Then a year later she reported a friend of mine for looking up an NSFW website, and he got fired. I was pissed and wanted to throw her under the bus in retaliation...but deep down, I knew my buddy was guilty as charged and doing that wouldn’t save his job, so let it go.
Point being, I’m sympathetic to those who endure it, and the stress/uncertainty about whether it’s appropriate to bring up or not. And anyone who thinks it’s only men doing it to women is naive.
Well said, mfsd. You are correct in that it is uncomfortable, along with the stress and uncertainity that weighs on you about bringing it up.
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
It's been a hard 30 years dealing with it
Quote:
In comment 13736972 montanagiant said:
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
Hey they have Ft Peck Reservoir out there!
Quote:
In comment 13737005 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 13736972 montanagiant said:
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
Hey they have Ft Peck Reservoir out there!
How many coon hats do you guys have patrolling the Reservoir?
Quote:
In comment 13736972 montanagiant said:
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
They call it a Navy, but is just a herd of reindeer.
Quote:
In comment 13737009 Modus Operandi said:
Quote:
In comment 13737005 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 13736972 montanagiant said:
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
Hey they have Ft Peck Reservoir out there!
How many coon hats do you guys have patrolling the Reservoir?
It's Beaver hats up there.
Quote:
In comment 13737005 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 13736972 montanagiant said:
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you had to suffer like this.
I call BS. Montana is land locked. No chance in hell they have a Navy.
They call it a Navy, but is just a herd of reindeer.
We actually use Sheep. Here we are doing some invasion training
I met my wife at the firm's Christmas party when we worked at the same firm. Definitely a "notorious incident" in my life, but it worked out OK! That was 1978.
Other than that, maybe one Christmas party at my firm, many, many years ago in the '80s ... we had some crazy ones.
I bring this up because in my early days, I worked with groups of 25-35 year old's who commonly worked 100+ hour work weeks. As a result, there was plenty of flirting, hooking up and comments between both sexes. Back then, nobody thought twice about this behavior because it was generally the result of people spending the majority of their waking hours together. Today, those same behaviors would be considered hostile (even if consensual) and cost people their jobs.
Quote:
We had a party and She came on to me I banged her and I liked it.
My sexual harassment story
I'm so sorry you she had to suffer like this.