NFT: 12/12: Lakers (10-15) vs Knicks (13-13) 7PM

Since Patrick Ewing and firet PLAYER IN HISTORY to do so with 5 three pointers.

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If it weren’t for Simmons having an absolutely brutal game, by his standards, the Sixers would be rolling.

"First player in NBA history"

In comment 13738529 bceagle05 said:

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and the horse you rode in on!

horse: "me too"

Frank should be starting.

In comment 13738556 Phil in LA said:

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Frank should be starting.

He had a good game tonight, but he's been coming along a bit slowly. There are some good signs there though. For now they're better off with Jack steering.

He is going to be a very fine 3-point shooter as he gets stronger. His stroke is first rate.

I haven;t changed my view that he is a three year project: two off-seasons to build his strength and athleticism to keep up with the defensive skills he already has, and the shooting that is beginning to show up. Similar path to KP, at a different position. Only after two years, he will still be a year younger than KP is now.

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In comment 13738556 Phil in LA said: Quote: Frank should be starting. He had a good game tonight, but he's been coming along a bit slowly. There are some good signs there though. For now they're better off with Jack steering.

I agree. All in all, I think they're bringing Frank along intelligently - not pushing him too fast or holding him back. Signing Jack and Sessions in the off season were good moves that are paying long term dividends in Frank's development.

Forget star treatment, anyone and everyone should get that call.

Talk about winning - Section 2 boys HS basketball champions Bethlehem Eagles beat Colonie in a repeat of last years finals.

In comment 13738567 Ira said:

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I agree. All in all, I think they're bringing Frank along intelligently - not pushing him too fast or holding him back. Signing Jack and Sessions in the off season were good moves that are paying long term dividends in Frank's development.

Sessions is a waste of roster spot.

In comment 13738594 GiantsUA said:

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Forget star treatment, anyone and everyone should get that call. Talk about winning - Section 2 boys HS basketball champions Bethlehem Eagles beat Colonie in a repeat of last years finals.

That's another big win. What a night of winning!

In comment 13738602 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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In comment 13738567 Ira said: Quote: I agree. All in all, I think they're bringing Frank along intelligently - not pushing him too fast or holding him back. Signing Jack and Sessions in the off season were good moves that are paying long term dividends in Frank's development. Sessions is a waste of roster spot.

Insurance against Jack getting hurt. Otherwise you would be down to Frank and Ron Baker. Not sure there is anyone we are missing having on the roster for Sessions to be a DNP-CD most nights

and start winning on the road if they want to get to the next level. Winning at home is great but they look like utter horse shit when they travel.

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Unicorn is as legit as it gets and he proves draft night Knick fans wrong almost every night.

Knicks seemed like the first team to finally expect drives by Ingram properly. Porz length was the main factor there.

If we are going to whine about calls though lets not forget about the blatant hold on Lonzo under the basket that was called that gave the Knicks second chance points nearing crunch time.

In comment 13738638 GiantFilthy said:

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Unicorn is as legit as it gets and he proves draft night Knick fans wrong almost every night. Knicks seemed like the first team to finally expect drives by Ingram properly. Porz length was the main factor there. If we are going to whine about calls though lets not forget about the blatant hold on Lonzo under the basket that was called that gave the Knicks second chance points nearing crunch time.

Lonzo flopped like a pro on that 3 point shot in OT

up high, where there was none. It was for undercutting the shooter and not giving space to come down.

I listened to, which was the broadcast on ESPN, said it should have been a play on with no whistle.

but Mark Jackson being wrong wouldn't surprise me.

but not a good game for the Knicks, IMO. There were some minor bright spots and KP hit some huge shots, but overall a bad effort on the home floor for the majority of the game. The Lakers outworked the Knicks and the Knicks really missed THJR. Lee had another really bad game.

sign for the Knicks is even when they aren't playing great, they'll get a guy like McDermott or Beasley to step up to help get the W.

Lots of role players who would be good pieces for a contending team

I hope his minutes continue to rise.

Really loved what I saw from Frank last night. You see him improving and gaining confidence with each minute he plays. And Jack is a perfect mentor for him. Anyone else think Jack will be a great coach after he retires? I still want him to attack the rim more aggressively but that hopefully will come.

Really impressive win- especially with Lee playing poorly. He may drive you crazy, but not having THJ hurts the offense. He's the only guy besides KP who can consistently create his own shot.

And Beasely really took it to Randle down the stretch. I'm a fan of Randle, but that was bad last night.

really fun to watch. It has been A LONG time since the Knicks were entertaining and fun to watch outside of the 1/2 season Jason Kidd played for them. Nice thing they have started at the Garden long way from a contender but very nice start.

is a prime example of why the Knicks should continue to target recent high picks that maybe haven't been in the right spot. McDermott was miscast as both a "top" scorer and then a 3 point bomber. Kid can obviously shoot but he has much more game than a 3 point specialist. Moves really well without the ball. I wouldn't want to give him a really silly contract but he's certainly worth keeping.

realize he's flawed but I think a contender would be smart to consider giving up a 2nd rounder for Beasley at the deadline. Guy can flat out score

finisher around the rim too. He really can do it all. I'd like him to start over Lance Thomas, but I guess more importantly, continue to get the minutes down the stretch.

Taurean Prince 24, 7 and 6 (this kid was a nice little find for a pending FA (Teague), he looks legit



Lyles 20 and 4 on 7/7, Phil's guy has been playing very well

RHJ 16 and 12, he's no KP but the Nets have found themselves a nice building block

LeVert 16 and 8

Embiid 28, 12 and 8, monster

Butler 38, 6 and 3

They have some nice young pieces, but why on earth would Lebron chose to go there for basketball reasons? Kuzma may be there only plus defender on that team- and that may be a stretch. Unless he's bringing Boogie and Paul George ( which would take a salary cap miracle), how is that team beating the Warriors?

Walton was also embarrassed down the stretch coaching. What was he thinking not fouling in OT?

I thought the same at the time.

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Mike Trudell: "Luke Walton said they wanted to foul down 4 with just over 30 seconds left after KCP missed the 3 in OT. Message didn’t get to the players. Was really loud in the building, players didn’t seem to hear it." "Whether coaches were yelling to foul or not (and they were), one of the players could recognize the situation and foul there, especially with a foul to give."

It didn't look like Walton was screaming to foul there.

In comment 13738851 GiantFilthy said:

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I thought the same at the time. Quote: Mike Trudell: "Luke Walton said they wanted to foul down 4 with just over 30 seconds left after KCP missed the 3 in OT. Message didn’t get to the players. Was really loud in the building, players didn’t seem to hear it." "Whether coaches were yelling to foul or not (and they were), one of the players could recognize the situation and foul there, especially with a foul to give."

Easy to say it after the game oh yeah I was screaming foul

Honestly the entire coaching staff should have been up yelling at that point.

Really didn't seem like anyone had a clue about the foul situation there. Lakers broadcasters didn't realize they had a foul to give. Porz starts lining up at the free throw line not realizing there was a foul to give. Shit all around.

become a better passer. Too often double teams have him completely flummoxed. Part of that is on his teammates not being in the right spot (missing Hardaway hurts). But it's mostly him. This was something Melo was pretty awesome at, when he wanted to be. If he figures out how to move the ball effectively, he can find another level as a player. Overall this team still takes way too many long 2s. We just don't get opposing defenses on their heels enough and scrambling so that open 3s are available.

Some good news: Knicks currently have the 12th ranked offense and the 16th ranked defense. The second stat is probably more impressive given where they were last year. And just think what the offense could look like with better PG play and MORE THREE POINTERS!

If Beasley would embrace it he could be a valuable scorer off the bench, x factor types you see in playoffs that give you unexpected bursts of scoring...obviously there are going to be times where he is ineffective but he can flat out score when he is on...

Frank, my favorite play from him was the shot clock winding down and everyone though he had no idea, then he threw a no look pass to oquinn who finished under the rim, his awareness is awesome..

The thing I loved the most last night from pporzingis was that he let the game flow I feel like that past couple of weeks he forced to much..

right when he had Lonzo beat is something that will open up in the future and he will recognize faster when he gains confidence. (Which you already seeing more and more of after each game)

He has the potential to get to the rim and he's very long which will help with his finishing. I think this will be what he works on in the offseason. His shot is very smooth too.

Other than Lavar doing his best to steal the attention from his son.
Neither team can miss. - ( New Window )

In comment 13739248 GiantFilthy said:

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Other than Especially Lavar doing his best to steal the attention from his son. Neither team can miss. - ( New Window )

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"The kid hasn't said anything. It's been everybody else. So, I love his humility. He goes out, every time someone asks him a question, he says, 'This is not about me, man. I just want to win. I don't care about what I did.' I seen he had a triple-double one game and they lost. He was like, 'I don't care. We lost.'

ESPN - ( New Window )

That's a major step forward for Frank

In comment 13739623 dpinzow said:

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That's a major step forward for Frank

Ntilikina held Lonzo Ball to just 1 point and 2 assists in the fourth quarter and overtime.

Lonzo didn't have a chance against our rook in crunch time.

2 points and 1 assist.

Dennis Smith should be a Laker? How bout Donovan Mitchell? Jayson Tatum?

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Ntilikina held Lonzo Ball to just 1 point and 2 assists in the fourth quarter and overtime. Lonzo didn't have a chance against our rook in crunch time.

It isn't just about numbers. It's about the fact he's a gazelle, can blow by people and can rebound. Sure, he keeps making bad passes and his shot looks like he has palsy, but he'll learn to not throw the ball away and will become a sharp-shooter.

To be serious for a second, his metrics place him not just as one of the worst rookies this year, but one of the worst rookie guards of all time. Couple the slow start with his complete ass of a Dad and you have a perfect storm.

but does he play defense? I've seen TJ McConnell make him look like he had banana peels for shoes.

Ball on Frank - “He’s very tough to guard and he proved that tonight,” said Ball, whose dad, LaVar, from courtside gave Ntilikina earfuls every time he passed by. “He’s a great player. He’s young just like me playing in a big city and trying to find his way. Much respect to him, and all the best moving forward.”

Frank on Ball - "Playing against him was exciting. He’s a great player. He’s going to be great. He has size, vision, unbelievable vision of the court. I mean, he can make plays,”

Two fine young men and talented young players. Both have great careers ahead of them.

Some of those passes, I don't know how he saw his teammates.

The starters need the push and leadership on defense, and the second 5 desperately needs the scoring/shooting help. And, McDermott is better late in the game when he plays limited minutes earlier. His stamina still needs work.