Things are starting to heat up on the hot stove:
-Machado and Ozuna are on the block. Look for the Cards to get one of them after losing out on Stanton.
- JD Martinez is down in Orlando negotiating with teams (my hunch is he goes to the Red Sox somewhere around 6 Years 170 Million.)
- After trading Headley on Tuesday, what is Cashmans next move. All signs seem to point to them trading for a cost controlled pitcher (Fulmer, Cole, Archer etc.) with their crop of prospects. That could be at the missing piece for a legit title run.
- Will the Mets finally do something? All ive seen from Mets fans is frustration the past two days, and I don't blame them one bit.
- Rumors of a possible Greinke trade also. That is a massive contract to move.
Should be a fun day.
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Scout says Alcantara has "big arm," about a year away, projects as No. 2 starter. https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/941022831227363328
Five, tops, he said.
In his second start of the fall, Alcantara, a 22-year-old who made his major league debut late this past season, sat between 96-99 with his fastball and touched 101 mph twice. He coupled the pitch with an improved curveball and a swing-and-miss changeup over the course of three hitless innings against visiting Scottsdale.
Alcantara is the second Fall League pitcher in as many days to touch triple-digits after Baltimore lefty Tanner Scott lit up the radar gun on Saturday against Peoria.
He was outstanding, Owen said. He had the good sinker going, but in the first couple of innings he was going a little more offspeed and working on his offspeed stuff, which looked good, but then came out and established the fastball. And hes got a live arm and has really good stuff. It was impressive.
Alcantara allowed just a walk over his three innings while striking out one batter. He threw 24 of his 40 pitches for strikes before yielding to Rays righthander Spencer Jones in the fourth.
The velocity on Alcantaras fastball is special on its own, but the ease with which he brings it sets him apart.
Its so smooth. Its an easy 101, Owen said. Its an electric arm. Hes fun to watch pitch.
Read more at https://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/sandy-alcantara-brings-heat/#mVKgRfcOt8vE1AJI.99
Yeah but the Marlins reportedly were asking for pitching so the Mets had no shot if that's the case.
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an a's trade for stephen piscotty from cardinals is "edging closer" via @susanslusser. @Ken_Rosenthal connected those 2 teams earlier.
Yeah agreed I discussed taking on Prado's full deal and another contract like Ziegler (1 year $9 million) or Edinson Volquez (1 year $13 million) in order to drive down the asking price for Yelich. The Braves have done a very good job over the years of turning washed up veteran bullpen arms into solid performers. If Ziegler bounces back and plays well he could bring back a decent lottery ticket at the deadline.
It will be interesting to see if anyone is willing to take on Wei-Yin Chen's contract in a package with Yelich. If so the Marlins will likely seriously consider moving Yelich.
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Alcantara is big piece going to #Marlins in 4-player package, hear other 3 are minor leaguers of less ilk #Stlcards
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Yeah but the Marlins reportedly were asking for pitching so the Mets had no shot if that's the case.
Unless the Mets got creative...so you are correct, no shot.
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I agree. Obviously the Marlins are shedding salary like crazy but there is zero reason to throw Yelich away while doing so. I'm hoping Atlanta uses Prado's salary dump as a way to talk down the Yelich price a bit. Sure seems like the Marlins would be dumb enough to listen.
Yeah agreed I discussed taking on Prado's full deal and another contract like Ziegler (1 year $9 million) or Edinson Volquez (1 year $13 million) in order to drive down the asking price for Yelich. The Braves have done a very good job over the years of turning washed up veteran bullpen arms into solid performers. If Ziegler bounces back and plays well he could bring back a decent lottery ticket at the deadline.
It will be interesting to see if anyone is willing to take on Wei-Yin Chen's contract in a package with Yelich. If so the Marlins will likely seriously consider moving Yelich.
Stop stealing my fictional met trades.
Just a guess, but I bet the 3rd year was some form of an option.
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says the Mets did offer Shaw 3 years before he signed
Just a guess, but I bet the 3rd year was some form of an option.
Very possible, Carig didn't really go into detail.
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Padres are engaging in trade talks for headley and solarte
Relievers by fWAR, 2017:
1. Jansen 3.6
2. Kimbrel 3.3
3. Osuna 3.0
4. Knebel 2.8
5. Neshek 2.5
6. Green 2.3
7. Miller 2.3
8. Swarzak 2.2
9. Minor 2.1
10. Kahnle 2.1
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The Pirates are gathering names of young, controllable players from the Yankees for a possible Gerrit Cole deal, but nothing close. Yankees also looking at Michael Fulmer, Chris Archer.
That's exactly what we're going to get. Book it.
Ellsbury would be a good fit for the Mets, but even at 50% of his cost he's probably too expensive for their budget.
They won't. It doesn't make much sense on their end as Lagares is probably a better option anyway not to mention Conforto looked better than expected there and he could move back there if they find another viable option in RF as I believe Nimmo is a 4th outfielder.
One of the best young outfields in baseball with Ozuna/Yelich/Stanton and they're going to wind up trading all 3 away.
I have no idea what the endgame ever is for that franchise. They're pathetic.
They should move to Nashville or Portland
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Cashman: "Were full frontal attack on all fronts. Obviously we need to address some things but patience is a virtue. Well see if something can get settled between now and tomorrow but, really, we have between now and spring training. We'll see."
I just know the Mets probably won't want to spend the money.
I just know the Mets probably won't want to spend the money.
I feel the same way, I just don't get it. Last year they had like $30M invested in Granderson and Bruce that was set to expire. By all accounts they need a positive voice in the clubhouse. And yet, they remain interested in Bruce? Something doesn't add up.
6. Magneuris Sierra, OF
13. Zac Gallen, RHP
NR. Daniel Castano, LHP
Obviously they have been really enamored with Alcantara and he's a big piece to them. Sierra is rated highly and sounds like a light hitting, great defense CF. Decent haul, but not as good as I would have expected for a top young OF with 2 years of control.
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Cain makes the most sense to me, personally.
I just know the Mets probably won't want to spend the money.
I feel the same way, I just don't get it. Last year they had like $30M invested in Granderson and Bruce that was set to expire. By all accounts they need a positive voice in the clubhouse. And yet, they remain interested in Bruce? Something doesn't add up.
It feels like they've completely recoiled after the way last year went and are back in super-conservative mode.
Almost as if to say "see, we tried to spend more money last year and we still had a bad season where the park was half empty from August on"
It's pretty offensive, honestly.
Swarzak is a move I'm on board with - that's good. But that's the problem with the Mets. They take half-measures. That should be one of many other things that happen. After that move, they should have said "it's a small piece of the puzzle, we still have a lot of work to do."
Instead, it'll wind up being our 2nd "big" move of the offseason with someone like Jay Bruce being "the bat" they (re)acquire and they'll try to sell us on the team getting healthy and making another run.
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one of their top pitching prospects ( Sheffield, Adams, Abreu) and maybe two lower level prospects get it done for Cole?
I hope they can keep Sheffield. If they can get it done without including Torres, Florial, Sheffield, Abreu, Andujar, and Medina I'll be a happy camper. Maybe Frazier, Adams, Estrada, and Tate (not Mr. Tate of McMann & Tate, but Dillon Tate). Those are four excellent prospects, but they can't expect all their trades to be as painless as the one for Stanton.
Yuck. Forget Cole - stop trying to suggest paying ace prices for a mid-rotation guy with NL stats. Fulmer should be the target.
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Also mentioned signing Yoenis Cespedes when asked about acquiring big names, and said they do as many deals like that as anybody.
What a fucking clown show.
Yep. The reason why the Yankees were able to rebuild so quickly and so efficiently is because they were willing to spend in the first place - it allowed them to flip players like Chapman and Miller at the deadline to re-stock their farm and they just went ahead and re-signed Chapman anyway.
So, just by spending to sign Chapman in the first place, they were able to acquire a top-shelf prospect in Torres and then wind up with Chapman back in the fold the very next season anyway.
Some teams are committed to winning - the Mets are committed to saving money.
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one of their top pitching prospects ( Sheffield, Adams, Abreu) and maybe two lower level prospects get it done for Cole?
I hope they can keep Sheffield. If they can get it done without including Torres, Florial, Sheffield, Abreu, Andujar, and Medina I'll be a happy camper. Maybe Frazier, Adams, Estrada, and Tate (not Mr. Tate of McMann & Tate, but Dillon Tate). Those are four excellent prospects, but they can't expect all their trades to be as painless as the one for Stanton.
Yuck. Forget Cole - stop trying to suggest paying ace prices for a mid-rotation guy with NL stats. Fulmer should be the target.
Sandy sits on his hands and pretends the budget isn't a problem. He acts surprised by FA values easily predicted by MLBTR. They shuffle players back and forth from their natural positions like Conforto (LF-> RF -> CF), and Flores, and Cespedes, instead of just putting them in their best positions and letting them succeed. Then repeat the same mistakes all over again the next offseason.
Step 1. Pass on the most obvious but expensive options (Hosmer/Moustakas/Davis).
Step 2. Pass on the most appealing tier 2 options (Morrow/Minor/McGee/Cain/Shaw). Also bemoan the over priced trade market and knock players that "didn't fit".
Step 3. Spend on the best of the not great options or take on salary dump type trades and put them into a role or position they aren't accustomed to (Bruce to 1B!).
Step 4. Rinse and repeat next year.