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NFT: Where do you stand on Francesa's retirement?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/13/2017 10:12 am
I've been listening to him a lot recently with his time at WFAN ending on Friday. A majority of the callers are thanking him, saying he made their commutes better & the like. Some of it has been way over the top, but I get that he has his loyal followers.

While I enjoy hearing Da Sports Pope's take when a big sports story happens, I'm not going to miss him belittling caller & just being an obnoxious jackass most of the time. I don't know their new trio will do, but it probably is time for new blood.

How do you feel? Going to miss Francesa or not?
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like him as a guy with a viewpoint  
mdc1 : 12/13/2017 12:25 pm : link
and defends it. Whether you like it or not.

In today's manufactured sound bytes that are created by news and sports bureau chiefs for media people to deliver like automatons he will be missed and many will come to realize it.
RE: When it happens, will white smoke come out of my TV?  
figgy2989 : 12/13/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13739068 Marty in Albany said:
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;-)


I think white smoke out of your car radio would be more appropriate!
He beat points to death  
Vanzetti : 12/13/2017 12:44 pm : link
Keep bringing up the same thing again and again. Very tedious at times

But he had a good knowledge of sports as a business and had a lot more common sense than the other guys on the station.

The main thing, though, is he has been the voice you heard in your car for almost thirty years. If you are 40 or younger you probably can’t remember s time before Francesa. So it’s the passing of an era and that is always a little sad and makes you whistful
More GIFs please  
ij_reilly : 12/13/2017 12:48 pm : link
and thank you.
He is irreplaceabvle for any reason good or bad you  
gtt350 : 12/13/2017 12:51 pm : link
can think of
The best hands down  
uconngiant : 12/13/2017 1:02 pm : link
He will be missed and what is coming is a crap show
Post the topless fat guy swinging the shirt gif  
GiantsUA : 12/13/2017 1:03 pm : link
Classic.

Spent way too much time discussing baseball IMO.

In past years when the Giants were making a playoff push, he would spend the majority of his show discussing the Yankees off season moves.

Also, his Knicks coverage has always been very weak IMO.

I do tune in once in awhile and do find him entertaining from time to time.

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ij_reilly : 12/13/2017 1:16 pm : link
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Much respect  
spike : 12/13/2017 1:25 pm : link
Ive been listening to him since junior high school
A thought about this:  
81_Great_Dane : 12/13/2017 1:32 pm : link
Talk show hosts are among the most ephemeral stars in entertainment. They are tremendously impactful while their shows run, but very few have any real impact afterward.

Who under the age of 55 remembers Arthur Godfrey, a huge star in his time? Art Rust Jr. was the king of New York sports talk before WFAN. How many people today think about Art Rust Jr.? Morton Downey Jr. Larry King. These guys are very important but unlike movie & TV actors they don't leave a body of work you'd want to revisit. (Johnny Carson is a big exception.)

I know Mike Francessa isn't retiring, but I wonder if he's going to miss being, well, Mike Francessa. Because once he's off the radio, he's not going to be Da Sports Pope. He may be something, but he won't be that.
Appreciate him  
SLIM_ : 12/13/2017 1:33 pm : link
I can't stand Maddog but I think the call-in show format with one person is rough. He is dealing with idiots all day so I can understand why he is short with them.

I thought him and the woman (can't remember her name - covered Giants for awhile, I think works for NFL network, Penn State grad) were phenomenal when she was on for awhile. Also liked him Sunday mornings.

As others said, I think for big events, he's a good listen. Otherwise, it's been hard to listen to. Loved when he would go off - Jets, Cowboys, McAdoo. The Eli benching was a good end for him.
Don't care one way or another.  
Beezer : 12/13/2017 1:35 pm : link
He has his ups, and his annoying traits. I only heard him second-hand or through BBI, so ... not really going to affect me.
see when assessing Mike you have to realize he bridged  
Stu11 : 12/13/2017 1:35 pm : link
2 massively different eras. When he and then soon after Mike & the Mad Dog started it was 30 years ago and an insanely different time in sports coverage. There were no MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA networks, No Sirius Radio, only 1 ESPN channel, and one pre-game show on CBS and NBC for football. Thats it. Sports talk radio was in its infancy and most markets didn't even have a station. He has been very instrumental in putting sports talk on the map. Yea Bill Mazer Art Rust Jr. etc... had an hour or 2 here and there but Mike was very instrumental in exploding the genre into what it is today.

On top of that through the 90's Mike and The Mad Dog was the most entertaining sports radio I ever have heard. Nobody and I mean NOBODY could cover runs like the '90 Giants, '94 Knicks/Rangers, '96 Yanks run like these guys. It was must listen radio. Not only did they get the top interviews, but they never let the subject off the hook. They always asked the tough questions we as fans wanted asked. I admit that in recent years I stopped listening much to Mike as I've grown more fond of listening to political radio and more specialized radio on Sirius like The NFL/NHL and MLB channels. I still tune him in after a huge event to get his take to this day. Of course he has an ego the size of 100 Grand Canyons, but thats what make people like him even more interesting in my opinion. I understand the hate for him. I really do whats great about the world is that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
I dunno...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/13/2017 1:35 pm : link
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How many people today think about Art Rust Jr.? Morton Downey Jr. Larry King


Every now and then at the dinner table I'll just burst on with:

"Chatanooga, Tennessee. You're on the line"
Another thing there was no BBI back then  
Stu11 : 12/13/2017 1:36 pm : link
when he started. No internet, not sports blog/message board sites. These guys helped give us a forum besides our buddies or co-workers to talk sports and share our views on a large scale.
callers....  
BillKo : 12/13/2017 2:05 pm : link
are generally the worst part of any radio talk show - they generally aren't informed. The host needs to make the show.

Francessa got the best interviews, and his show was a definite listen in comparison to anyone else IMO.

I've switched over to political talk (and am finding it's not much different than sports) about a year ago, but I'll miss Francessa.

Whether I commuted 15 minutes or an hour, I always tuned him (and Dog) in over those 30 years.
RE: see when assessing Mike you have to realize he bridged  
BillKo : 12/13/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13739150 Stu11 said:
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2 massively different eras. When he and then soon after Mike & the Mad Dog started it was 30 years ago and an insanely different time in sports coverage. There were no MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA networks, No Sirius Radio, only 1 ESPN channel, and one pre-game show on CBS and NBC for football. Thats it. Sports talk radio was in its infancy and most markets didn't even have a station. He has been very instrumental in putting sports talk on the map. Yea Bill Mazer Art Rust Jr. etc... had an hour or 2 here and there but Mike was very instrumental in exploding the genre into what it is today.

On top of that through the 90's Mike and The Mad Dog was the most entertaining sports radio I ever have heard. Nobody and I mean NOBODY could cover runs like the '90 Giants, '94 Knicks/Rangers, '96 Yanks run like these guys. It was must listen radio. Not only did they get the top interviews, but they never let the subject off the hook. They always asked the tough questions we as fans wanted asked. I admit that in recent years I stopped listening much to Mike as I've grown more fond of listening to political radio and more specialized radio on Sirius like The NFL/NHL and MLB channels. I still tune him in after a huge event to get his take to this day. Of course he has an ego the size of 100 Grand Canyons, but thats what make people like him even more interesting in my opinion. I understand the hate for him. I really do whats great about the world is that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.


Stu - great post. A lot of excellent points.
RE: Appreciate him  
gtt350 : 12/13/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13739144 SLIM_ said:
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I can't stand Maddog but I think the call-in show format with one person is rough. He is dealing with idiots all day so I can understand why he is short with them.

I thought him and the woman (can't remember her name - covered Giants for awhile, I think works for NFL network, Penn State grad) were phenomenal when she was on for awhile. Also liked him Sunday mornings.

As others said, I think for big events, he's a good listen. Otherwise, it's been hard to listen to. Loved when he would go off - Jets, Cowboys, McAdoo.










The Eli benching was a good end for him.






Kim Jones
Joe Namath on at 3:00 today  
Victor in CT : 12/13/2017 2:10 pm : link
......
Even Warner Wolf is almost forgotten  
gtt350 : 12/13/2017 2:14 pm : link
" If you had Rutgers and 50 points you lost"
Going to be a sad day Friday  
gmen9892 : 12/13/2017 2:25 pm : link
Whenever I wanted an informative opinion on anything regarding baseball, football, basketball, and college football/basketball, I turned on Mike. As a 32 year old, I grew up hating him because of his arrogance. I eventually grew to accept that was what he was and found his show unintentionally hilarious.

My friends and I joke about his show almost weekly. As much of a douche as he can be, he always stuck to sports while incorporating anything else significant going on at the time outside of sports. I, for one, will miss the guy when he is gone. Especially given the competition and who he is being replaced with.

Over/Under for how long Scott lasts? I wouldnt be surprised in the least if he is gone by 2019.
RE: More GIFs please  
Greg from LI : 12/13/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13739100 ij_reilly said:
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and thank you.












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bceagle05 : 12/13/2017 2:35 pm : link
RE: The callers on Francesa's show are useless  
Stu11 : 12/13/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13738939 Go Terps said:
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They're the worst part of the show, and usually deserve any shit Francesa gives them.

The best parts are Francesa on his own, and the interviews. I'd say he'll be a big loss, but he'll be doing something else soon and I'll follow him there. Hopefully it's a better format than radio, which is antiquated and full of ads.

Funny I got nostalgia during this Yanks run and started listening to him a little more regularly with my kids in the car. The first thing I said to them after about 10 minutes was this is what I don't miss about local sports talk radio- the nimrod callers. You're right I listen to Sirius now because terrestrial radio has become un-listenable due to the endless stream of ads.
He is good when interested  
moespree : 12/13/2017 2:40 pm : link
But he has faked interest in recent years and it has shown. But take for example the Eli benching thing. He was legitimately interested in that and I think that was some of his better shows in the last 2 or 3 years. It all depends with him. On days he's into it he's a blowhard but okay to listen to. On days he's not into it he's just a blowhard and dull.
an Ice Cream classic  
Stu11 : 12/13/2017 2:42 pm : link
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Mr. Bungle : 12/13/2017 3:21 pm : link
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Mr. Bungle : 12/13/2017 3:21 pm : link
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Mr. Bungle : 12/13/2017 3:22 pm : link
Mike s the best  
joeinpa : 12/13/2017 3:39 pm : link
Will definaymiss him especially during football season

Hope his next stop is readily available I plan on continuing to listen
Like him more and more  
A-Train : 12/13/2017 4:56 pm : link
over the years. His ability to carry a show for 5 hours is impressive. So few good sports shows on the air. Will not be the same without him.
He speaks his mind and some of my favorite moments from the show was when he digs in when he is wrong.
Love the gifs. Loved the SF Giants and NY Giants hanging together call. And loved that he was around during the Eli debacle.
I don't listen to WFAN live, but I enjoyed his interviews.  
Ira : 12/13/2017 5:01 pm : link
He's intelligent and he knows sports.
RE: RE: The idea that he is actually retiring is funny  
gmenatlarge : 12/14/2017 10:03 am : link
In comment 13738947 njm said:
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In comment 13738924 Chef said:


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He will back on some other kind of medium in a few months.



True. But there's no way he's going to do 5.5 hours 5 days per week wherever he goes.

And I'm amazed that people prefer "Bro, bro, bro Jets, Jets, Jets. Bro, bro, bro, Mets, Mets, Mets over Carlin. Carlin may lack the passion that Francesa has (or is it had), but he seems amiable and if nothing else, knows more about hockey.


Can't agree on carlin, never liked him.
He's the reason I stopped listening to sports radio...  
Jan in DC : 12/14/2017 11:13 am : link
He'll bluster on, talk over top of people and maintain his opinion is fact without even giving people a chance to speak.

He's arrogant and not charismatic and his interviews with anyone not related to horse racing, football or baseball were about as deep as a wading pool.
Is it just me ???  
NNJ Tom : 12/14/2017 11:29 am : link
Or does everyone on WFAN have an annoying New Yawk accent?

Minko sounds like he has a borderline speech impediment.

The whole thing is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.



RE: While I would never call up and tell him  
AnishPatel : 12/14/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13738838 Chris684 said:
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because I don't think he legitimately cares.

I understand the sentiment of 30something year olds who have grown up with him.

If you are 30+, live in the area, and love sports, you basically grew up with the guy.

As some of his callers have said to him this month. For me, his show spans from riding in the backseat of my Dad's car as a young kid, in the background while writing papers for college, and as I changed diapers for my newborn.

That's a long time.


Good post! Iam 36, and I grew up listening to him and Dog. I can remember the car rides and we'd listen to him. I will miss listening to him!
He didn't talk enough hockey  
Rover : 12/14/2017 1:07 pm : link
And why have there been no prank calls this week?
Live show  
UESBLUE : 12/14/2017 1:13 pm : link
from theatre on FAN now
This is great radio today..  
Sean : 12/14/2017 1:18 pm : link
All guests. First Nantz, now Dan Patrick.
Calipari better be on today  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/14/2017 1:26 pm : link
my favorite guest - just a rip-fest.
RE: Is it just me ???  
Andy01 : 12/14/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13740176 NNJ Tom said:
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Or does everyone on WFAN have an annoying New Yawk accent?

Minko sounds like he has a borderline speech impediment.

The whole thing is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.




Really? I think that the New York accent is a thing in this watered down "everyone on radio/tv" has a midwestern accent and is basically a robot spewing whatever was written for them. Mike's total New Yawkness, delivery and style is going to be missed.

President
Mongo Nation
Middletown NJ Chapter
It's a known part of WFAN's history  
81_Great_Dane : 12/14/2017 8:13 pm : link
that when they started, with nationally known guys like Jim Lampley, they couldn't find an audience. When they put on guys like Mike Francessa, Chris Russo, Jody McDonald, and later Joe Benigno, guys who "sounded like New York," the station took off.

So yeah, it's true that there are a lot of strong Noo Yawk accents on Da Fan. Listeners like it.
Missed a lot of the show today  
Rover : 12/14/2017 8:44 pm : link
Anybody have a list of all the guests?
BIg question  
dpinzow : 12/14/2017 9:35 pm : link
is Mad Dog going to come back tomorrow for one last show with Mike? That would be awesome
To answer my question  
dpinzow : 12/14/2017 9:38 pm : link
Mad Dog called in for about 5 minutes today
RE: Missed a lot of the show today  
Ace718 : 12/14/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13741056 Rover said:
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Anybody have a list of all the guests?

It's a long list. Mondo has all the names on his Twitter. The last guest ever was LG. And let's just say LG was being LT at the end. LOL
List from MOnzo's twitter  
Ace718 : 12/14/2017 9:42 pm : link
Thanks to: Jim Nantz, @DanPatrick, Dick Ebersol, Jay Horwitz, @GottliebShow, @stevesomerswfan, @TeamVic, @DAonCBS, @Feinsand, @KimJonesSports, John Franco, OJ Anderson, @TikiBarber, @kevinburkhardt, @jimcramer, @YankeesWFAN, @davediehl66, Steve Schirripa, Mitchell Etess (cont)..

More thanks: Joe Mihalich, Brendan Brown, Mike Breen, Lonn Trost, Todd Pletcher, Joe Micheletti, @MarcMalusis, Jerry Bailey, @regis, Bobby Valentine, @kurt13warner, @IraHeatBeat, Chris Kay, Eddie Coleman, Pierre McGuire, @ChrisChristie, Tim Cluess, @JSB_TV, Bobby Ojeda (cont)..

More thanks: Bob Baffert, @lindacohn, @CliffFloyd30, Darryl Strawberry, @MichaelBreed, John Davidson, @katienolan, Bob Costas, @EvanRobertsWFAN, Joe Benigno, Jim Fassel, Neil Smith, @JayGlazer, @ShaunOHara60, Suzyn Waldman, @PSchrags, @CarlBanksGIII, Tim McCarver (Cont)..


More thanks: Ian Eagle, Kenny Smith, Mike Tannebaum, @richeisen, @EricaWFAN, PJ Carlesimo, Eli Manning, @LonnieQuinnTV, @BMarshall, Eddie O, Steve Phillips, Keith Hernandez, @UKCoachCalipari, Joe Girardi, Tom Pecora, @bw51official, Barry Watkins, Brian Cashman

Thanks to special guests -- @TheImusShow, @MadDogUnleashed, our boss Mark Chernoff -- my friends @JMinkoWFAN, Mr. Met- Bob Heussler, Julio and the man LT. If I forgot anyone, feel free to let me know.
My memories of Mike  
02/03/2008 : 12/15/2017 1:08 am : link
As a product of 80s Giants football and growing up going to games with my Dad. I still here him on the radio early Sunday on the way to the game and post game on the way home. Probably one of best memories of time with my father.
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gmenatlarge : 12/15/2017 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13739263 bceagle05 said:
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Why is Steve Phillips in this one?
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TheShade : 12/15/2017 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13741771 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 13739263 bceagle05 said:


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Why is Steve Phillips in this one?


Was there an intern around that he was trying to hit on?
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