for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NFT: MLB Winter Meetings Day 4

DaddyM89 : 12/14/2017 1:43 am
Could this be the day we see Machado moved? Do the yankees make a move for a pitcher or a bold one in getting said Machado? Will the Mets make a big splash on the last day. Hopefully it'll be an exciting one after the last few days were a little slow.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 <<Prev | Show All |
RE: Just listening to Kay...  
dpinzow : 12/14/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13740766 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
He said the Yankees are going "full bore" for Machado, and he's heard Machado wants to play in New York, whether it's this year or next. Remember, Kay is close with Buck Showalter, so that's probably the source.

However, he still doesn't think Angelos will sign off on a Yankee deal, and he (Kay) thinks they should wait till free agency rather than deplete their starting pitching supply in the minors.

I know, I know - I hate Kay, too - but his Yankee insights have some value.


I fully believe this on Machado

1. He sees the Yanks are building something unstoppable and wants to be a part of it
2. He detests the Red Sox
3. He always looked up to ARod when he came up to the bigs
RE: Rosenthal says the White Sox have the best deal  
dpinzow : 12/14/2017 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13740866 Dave in Hoboken said:
Quote:
on the table for Machado currently.


Yanks actually have the best deal but Angelos won't trade with the Yanks so the White Sox have the best deal the Orioles are looking at. That makes sense. Question is, will the White Sox pay him the money
RE: RE: Rosenthal says the White Sox have the best deal  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/15/2017 12:05 am : link
In comment 13741229 dpinzow said:
Quote:
In comment 13740866 Dave in Hoboken said:


Quote:


on the table for Machado currently.



Yanks actually have the best deal but Angelos won't trade with the Yanks so the White Sox have the best deal the Orioles are looking at. That makes sense. Question is, will the White Sox pay him the money

Yeah? What's the offer?

None of us actually know. The Yanks have the best pool to deal from, but the White Sox are right there with them. Yes, it's well documented that Angelos is extremely resistant to a trade with the Yanks, but to declare that the Yanks have the best deal is just speculation.
Just sayin'  
Ryan in Albany : 12/15/2017 7:58 am : link

Jeinny Lizarazo‏Verified account
@Jeinnylizarazo
Follow Follow @Jeinnylizarazo
More Jeinny Lizarazo Retweeted Bob Nightengale
Today I received information from a good source that no matter what happens...Machado knows he will be with the Yankees....whether in 2018 or 2019...
Orioles can't do anything about it...
Cashman is simply saying...take this or leave it...get something for him or get nothing
In case anyone missed it  
Shecky : 12/15/2017 8:07 am : link
Like clockwork...

I think that the meetings were helpful to help us resolve the bullpen situation and give us a little more clarity on options at other positions, Alderson said shortly before departing. So I think were relatively happy going home.
who is Jeinny Lizarazo?  
Greg from LI : 12/15/2017 9:07 am : link
.
Galvis  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 12:20 pm : link
for Enyel De Los Santos. Nice move by Phi
RE: In case anyone missed it  
Modus Operandi : 12/15/2017 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13741356 Shecky said:
Quote:
Like clockwork...

I think that the meetings were helpful to help us resolve the bullpen situation and give us a little more clarity on options at other positions, Alderson said shortly before departing. So I think were relatively happy going home.


Did Sandy kick any doors down on the way out?
Sandy has done as well as anyone could under the restrictions  
Eric on Li : 12/15/2017 12:29 pm : link
but I think it's time to move on. Bring back Depo to help with the draft (they obviously need it) and then let him take the reigns next offseason. Let Sandy stay on as team president but give someone else a chance.
Awful-  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 12:29 pm : link
The New York Mets and Minnesota Twins are interested in free agent first baseman Mike Napoli according to Gerry Fraley of Dallas Morning News. The Tampa Bay Rays are also interested per Marc Tompkin of the TB Times.
RE: Sandy has done as well as anyone could under the restrictions  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13741780 Eric on Li said:
Quote:
but I think it's time to move on. Bring back Depo to help with the draft (they obviously need it) and then let him take the reigns next offseason. Let Sandy stay on as team president but give someone else a chance.


I think DePo got a promotion in CLE. From what I read he now reports directly to Haslam, as does the GM and coach.

I thought he'd get tossed with Sashi, but if I read correctly doesn't seem like that is the case, at least not yet.
RE: RE: Sandy has done as well as anyone could under the restrictions  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13741799 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
In comment 13741780 Eric on Li said:


Quote:


but I think it's time to move on. Bring back Depo to help with the draft (they obviously need it) and then let him take the reigns next offseason. Let Sandy stay on as team president but give someone else a chance.



I think DePo got a promotion in CLE. From what I read he now reports directly to Haslam, as does the GM and coach.

I thought he'd get tossed with Sashi, but if I read correctly doesn't seem like that is the case, at least not yet.


New GM apparently shit on DePo
Link - ( New Window )
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 12:53 pm : link
Napoli's numbers the past 3 seasons? He's been worth 1.1 fWAR TOTAL since opening day 2015, NEGATIVE -0.5 fWAR in 2017 and is 36.
Carlos  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 1:34 pm : link
Jon Heyman‏Verified account
@JonHeyman
2m2 minutes ago
Santanas deal is $60M for 3 years with philly
Great deal  
brunswick : 12/15/2017 1:52 pm : link
For Phillies
.  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 2:08 pm : link
Mike Berardino‏Verified account
@MikeBerardino
Follow Follow @MikeBerardino
More
Rodney also had offers from TEX, NYM, DET.

-Kipnis does not have a no-trade (so he has no say) but he does not want to be traded
Dan..  
Sean : 12/15/2017 2:10 pm : link
Is Cerrone still involved with MetsBlog? Cant tell from his Twitter.
Cozart  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 2:12 pm : link
3 for 38 with LAA, Eppler is kicking ass
RE: Dan..  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13741955 Sean said:
Quote:
Is Cerrone still involved with MetsBlog? Cant tell from his Twitter.


Yeah he still runs the site.
Mets might be  
spike : 12/15/2017 2:24 pm : link
A 3rd place team next season
.  
arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:28 pm : link
Quality players flying off the board.

Mets waiting for their bargain as usual.
If someone said 3 weeks ago  
brunswick : 12/15/2017 3:41 pm : link
Santana would only get 3/60 you would certainly think the Mets would have been involved. It's tough to get difference makers and they just missed out on one.
Mets might be trading Gsellman  
ZGiants98 : 12/15/2017 3:45 pm : link
For Villar.
RE: Mets might be trading Gsellman  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13742139 ZGiants98 said:
Quote:
For Villar.


Puma says otherwise-
The Mets received the impression Brian Dozier likely wont be dealt by the Twins. And team officials dont view the Brewers Jonathan Villar as a serious possibility at the moment.
How old is  
brunswick : 12/15/2017 3:53 pm : link
Villar?
Ehalt  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 3:55 pm : link
says nothing brewing between the Mets and Indians and Mets not deep in talks for any 2b.
ZZZZ  
brunswick : 12/15/2017 3:56 pm : link
Where did you hear/see that one?
RE: How old is  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13742147 brunswick said:
Quote:
Villar?


He's 27 this season. Had an absolutely horrendous 2017, beyond bad. Very good 2016. Awful career outside of 2016.
The latest  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 3:57 pm : link

Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
2m
Hearing there is nothing currently brewing with regards to Jason Kipnis and the Mets. Not that it can't happen, but no traction toward a deal at the moment.


Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
now
Also, the Mets are not hot with any other potential 2B at the moment.
From all the tweets I'm reading  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 3:57 pm : link
that's not a great deal for Philly.

it's a good deal for all the other 1B options, based on twitter comments. For example....

Quote:
Jeff Passan‏Verified account @JeffPassan
54m54 minutes ago

The consensus on Carlos Santana's $60M deal with the Phillies: It bodes awfully well for free agent hitters. Santana is four years older than Eric Hosmer. A seven-year, $175M ask no longer seems beyond the pale. Good news for Logan Morrison and other available first basemen, too.
34 replies 54 retweets 107 likes
RE: From all the tweets I'm reading  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13742158 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
that's not a great deal for Philly.

it's a good deal for all the other 1B options, based on twitter comments. For example....



Quote:


Jeff Passan‏Verified account @JeffPassan
54m54 minutes ago

The consensus on Carlos Santana's $60M deal with the Phillies: It bodes awfully well for free agent hitters. Santana is four years older than Eric Hosmer. A seven-year, $175M ask no longer seems beyond the pale. Good news for Logan Morrison and other available first basemen, too.
34 replies 54 retweets 107 likes





Just because the AAV is high. People expected 4 years at a lower number but he's older than Hosmer so the AAV bodes well for guys like him.
Dave  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:01 pm : link
Cameron for example had Santana his #1 "bargain" at 4 for 72.

Dave Cameron 4 $18.0 M $72.0 M

"This is bananas. Santana projects as a better player than Edwin Enacnacion did last year, when the latter got 3/$60M after turning down 4/$80M from the Blue Jays. And Encarnacion got that despite only being able to negotiate with the few AL teams that had openings at DH. Santanas market should be much broader, and if he doesnt eclipse Encarnacions $60 million guarantee from last winter, a bunch of teams screwed up. I guessed that hed actually sign for $72 million, but Id probably go as high as $80 million if hed spread it out over five years. Santana might not be a superstar, but hes a good, consistent, durable player who will help his next team more than it seems many people might anticipate."
.  
arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 4:03 pm : link
I like the Santana deal - I would have been very happy with that if we signed him. High AAV but the term is perfect.
More  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:06 pm : link
on Napoli... he hit .196 vs. lefties last season (which would presumably be his role), and 2 position players 36 or older posted 2.0 fWAR last year Grandy/Nelson Cruz.
I'm not saying  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 4:08 pm : link
I wouldn't like it if the Mets signed him.

Though part of me wouldn't like it be because it signals the end of Dom Smith at low cost for a player at a relatively high cost that who knows how much of an improvement he'd be.

but my point was in response to the "great deal for Philly" posts. It's not that great IMO unless you see the Phillies as a contender in the next 3 years.

Not sure I do.
RE: I'm not saying  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13742181 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
I wouldn't like it if the Mets signed him.

Though part of me wouldn't like it be because it signals the end of Dom Smith at low cost for a player at a relatively high cost that who knows how much of an improvement he'd be.

but my point was in response to the "great deal for Philly" posts. It's not that great IMO unless you see the Phillies as a contender in the next 3 years.

Not sure I do.


Phillies have an INSANE amount of money to spend upcoming so Santana is a nice add to what they already have. They have something like 7 million committed for 2019 (now 7+ Santana).
Astros  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:10 pm : link
are so well run.

Astros signed RHP Hector Rondon to a two-year, $8.5 million contract. Reportedly also in on Darvish.

Arc  
brunswick : 12/15/2017 4:10 pm : link
Agree 100%. It just appears that the Mets have their minds made up and there is no moving off of their plan. There is absolutely no creativity with the FO. I know we have "limited" funds but there is no excuse for some of the things happening. Why isn't Lagares name floated out there? There was/is no intention to trade Dom Smith...why not? His value is too low...stop already. They need to think out of the box. This team is a disgrace.
As a Yankee fan,  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/15/2017 4:11 pm : link
happy Santana left the Indians.
...  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:12 pm : link
Astros designated OF Preston Tucker for assignment.
The move clears a spot on the 40-man roster for the addition of Hector Rondon. Tucker looked like a potentially important part of the Astros' future not long ago, but he's been bypassed by others on the depth chart and spent all of 2017 at Triple-A even though he turned 27 at midseason. Still, he should draw some interest on waivers. Dec 15 - 3:50 PM

(Story was the Mets wanted to draft Tucker 6th round in 2012 but he didn't answer his phone, presumably they would be interested)
I  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:13 pm : link
love how all of these teams have fanfests but not our Mets. Astros event is totally free too.
Don't  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:16 pm : link
question Peter Alonso's defense....


Peter Alonso‏
@PeterAlonso20
3h3 hours ago
More
Crushing it this offseason with @Athlete_Retreat! #workingfor2018 #LGM

jon jae‏
@jonjy36
Follow Follow @jonjy36
More
Replying to @PeterAlonso20 @MBrownstein89 @Athlete_Retreat
Shouldn't you be working on your defense


More Peter Alonso Retweeted jon jae
Ive been busting my ass in the weight room, taking a bunch of quality defensive reps, and working in the cage with some offensive stuff. Im getting better every day and fixed what was wrong last year. No need to be a prick. Id be happy to video myself taking gbs next time
.  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:42 pm : link
Jon Heyman‏Verified account
@JonHeyman
Following Following @JonHeyman
More
Swarzak breakdown: $1M signing bonus $5M in 2018, $8M in 2019. #mets
RE: Don't  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13742197 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
question Peter Alonso's defense....


Peter Alonso‏
@PeterAlonso20
3h3 hours ago
More
Crushing it this offseason with @Athlete_Retreat! #workingfor2018 #LGM

jon jae‏
@jonjy36
Follow Follow @jonjy36
More
Replying to @PeterAlonso20 @MBrownstein89 @Athlete_Retreat
Shouldn't you be working on your defense


More Peter Alonso Retweeted jon jae
Ive been busting my ass in the weight room, taking a bunch of quality defensive reps, and working in the cage with some offensive stuff. Im getting better every day and fixed what was wrong last year. No need to be a prick. Id be happy to video myself taking gbs next time


It was kind of a douchy thing to say to him. twitter really sucks some times with athletes being so potentially accessible.
Just  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 4:52 pm : link
to be clear, that was not me.
RE: Just  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13742245 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
to be clear, that was not me.


I knew it wasn't unless your name is jon jae.

I thought it could be a buddy busting his balls, but based on his response it didn't seem that way.
I really hope the Mets do something stupid in the next hour for 1 last  
Eric on Li : 12/15/2017 5:15 pm : link
Francesa/Mets rant.
RE: I really hope the Mets do something stupid in the next hour for 1 last  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13742266 Eric on Li said:
Quote:
Francesa/Mets rant.


ask and you shall receive:

Quote:
New York Mets‏Verified account @Mets

We have signed catcher Jos Lobaton to a minor league contract with an invitation to major league Spring Training. #Mets
Lobaton  
DanMetroMan : 12/15/2017 5:20 pm : link
is 33 years old and hit .170 this year (.218 career). He's garbage but will replace Rene Rivera.
They should drop a press release for another sleepover at citi field  
Eric on Li : 12/15/2017 5:25 pm : link
.
Mike Discusses The Mets' Citi Field Sleepover Promotion - ( New Window )
Pages: 1 2 3 4 <<Prev | Show All |
Back to the Corner