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Dottino on WFAN RE: Abrams

Chris684 : 12/14/2017 12:33 pm
Says Abrams spoke for the first time today about his candidacy for GM opening.

-Says he will interview before the end of the season.

-Says he is more than just a salary cap guru, well-rounded and involved in all other aspects.

-Says he would like to see Webb in a game before the end of the season, but that's Spags decision.

-Says that Spags has done a great job so far as interim, double thumbs up.
Arizona and Washington are weaker opponents.  
bceagle05 : 12/14/2017 12:38 pm : link
Expect a heavy dose of Webb in those games.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/14/2017 12:40 pm : link
Tom Rock‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
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Interim GM Kevin Abrams spoke to media today. Among the topics: He would like to see Webb in a game, the scouting process is business as usual, thinks Eli Manning still has good football in him, wants the full-time job and thinks he is ready for it.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/14/2017 12:40 pm : link
Just spoke to interim GM Kevin Abrams. Some key points: 1. He's definitely interested in being full-time GM and will interview 2. Says team is "healthy" cap wise and will have no restrictions 3. Believes Eli still can play 4. Ideal world would like to see all young players (including Davis Webb) but it's Steve Spagnuolo's decision 5. Handled himself real well and can see him being a quality public face for the franchise
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/14/2017 12:42 pm : link


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Giants fans will be happy to hear this from interim GM Kevin Abrams about salary cap: "We’re healthy. He won’t have any restrictions on what we can do based on the salary cap. We’ll have tough decisions ... but we don’t have to make any decisions because of the salary cap.''
seems like a very vanilla interview  
UConn4523 : 12/14/2017 12:44 pm : link
with vanilla responses. Nothing really to take from that, which is to be expected.
In the Dottino interview he was asked who his ideal HC candidate is  
Chris684 : 12/14/2017 12:49 pm : link
He began by saying he wouldnt name names.

Then he ran through a checklist that included
-Previous HC experience
-Age, in his 50's "old enough to command the locker room"
-Prior postseason/Super Bowl experience

No sooner did Mike Smith and Steve Spagnuolo pop into my head as a listener, Dottino went on to name them specifically.

I'm really hoping we look for more than Dottino's criteria above.
I'm in the press room right now  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/14/2017 12:51 pm : link
and every reporter is busy writing this story up
RE: I'm in the press room right now  
jvm52106 : 12/14/2017 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13740381 gidiefor said:
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and every reporter is busy writing this story up


I for one would like to see Abrams get the job. I think he is capable of being a quality GM and with a good coach who has input on the draft and player personnel really could develop something nice and long term here.

If Eli is staying and there are hints he sure may be, then a trade down from #2 is in order.

I wouldn't mind Mike Smith. He did a good job in Atlanta  
Victor in CT : 12/14/2017 12:56 pm : link
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I wouldn't mind Abrams if a top personnel guy is his # 2  
Victor in CT : 12/14/2017 12:58 pm : link
like Fats suggestion of Abrams/Gettleman duo.
RE: I wouldn't mind Mike Smith. He did a good job in Atlanta  
jvm52106 : 12/14/2017 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13740390 Victor in CT said:
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I don't know why but he is just a MEH guy to me. Not knocking your interest just saying for some reason he has not been a guy I really thought could be a good Giants coach. Forget Dottino's wish list, I want a younger who can get things going quickly but command the locker room too.

One guy I absolutely do not want is Jeff Fisher...

However, I could easily see him in Indianapolis or Detroit.
RE: RE: I wouldn't mind Mike Smith. He did a good job in Atlanta  
Victor in CT : 12/14/2017 1:06 pm : link
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I don't know why but he is just a MEH guy to me. Not knocking your interest just saying for some reason he has not been a guy I really thought could be a good Giants coach. Forget Dottino's wish list, I want a younger who can get things going quickly but command the locker room too.

One guy I absolutely do not want is Jeff Fisher...

However, I could easily see him in Indianapolis or Detroit.


true he's not a big personality, not a WOW name, but definitely competent and a winner.
Pat Shurmur is the perfect candidate  
AcesUp : 12/14/2017 1:08 pm : link
You take any coaches stint in Cleveland with a huge grain of salt. What he's done with the Minnesota offense this year is not getting nearly enough play. 52 years old and former HC.
House organ Dottino playing that tune again  
HomerJones45 : 12/14/2017 1:17 pm : link
for another Mara crony. Abrams is part of the personnel regime that got this team to 2-10. GTFO.
RE: I'm in the press room right now  
Joey in VA : 12/14/2017 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13740381 gidiefor said:
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and every reporter is busy writing this story up
I was outside near garbage cans, and garbage men were picking them up.
RE: House organ Dottino playing that tune again  
djm : 12/14/2017 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13740447 HomerJones45 said:
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for another Mara crony. Abrams is part of the personnel regime that got this team to 2-10. GTFO.


Landon Collins and Even Engram and Snacks were also part of that personnel regime. Want to get rid of them too?

There's a saying "don't dump the baby out with the bath water."
I want a GM who is going to  
Les in TO : 12/14/2017 1:39 pm : link
Have full control like George Young did. I feel like Abrams - although a Toronto guy and therefore amazing - being young and with the Giants for 20 years would be too deferential to the Maras and status quo which is a consistent losing team. Also he's associated with and negotiated some of the contracts that are currently hurting the team: Eli JPP and Vernon
Did he take questions?  
Dan in the Springs : 12/14/2017 1:43 pm : link
Wonder if anyone tried to get insights to his thoughts on our Ross and Chris Mara doing personnel evaluations.

I know he's not going to name names, it's a touchy subject and not professional way to do it when these guys are still working for you. Just the same - there has to be a way to get him speaking about his thoughts on rebuilding the organization.

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
Do you see a need to do that?"

or...

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
What would your process of rebuilding the franchise look like?"


something like that.
RE: Did he take questions?  
section125 : 12/14/2017 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13740514 Dan in the Springs said:
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Wonder if anyone tried to get insights to his thoughts on our Ross and Chris Mara doing personnel evaluations.

I know he's not going to name names, it's a touchy subject and not professional way to do it when these guys are still working for you. Just the same - there has to be a way to get him speaking about his thoughts on rebuilding the organization.

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
Do you see a need to do that?"

or...

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
What would your process of rebuilding the franchise look like?"


something like that.


Yeah, because fans will have say-so in the hiring process. Also, an interim GM is not going to comment on a part owner and the director of scouting.....Abrams is not being interviewed by you or anyone else on this website that we know of.
I don t put too  
joeinpa : 12/14/2017 2:22 pm : link
Much credence into Dottino s opinion on anything Giants. He s too close to be objective.
RE: RE: House organ Dottino playing that tune again  
HomerJones45 : 12/14/2017 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13740490 djm said:
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for another Mara crony. Abrams is part of the personnel regime that got this team to 2-10. GTFO.



Landon Collins and Even Engram and Snacks were also part of that personnel regime. Want to get rid of them too?

There's a saying "don't dump the baby out with the bath water."
Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. The Marvin Austin's, Clint Sintim's, Adrien Robinson's, Stevie Brown's, Ryan Nassib's and Jernal Jernigan's far outnumber the successes. Good fucking bye to Abrams and take Ross with him.
Why do you think he's even being considered?  
HomerJones45 : 12/14/2017 2:33 pm : link
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too deferential to the Maras
RE: RE: RE: House organ Dottino playing that tune again  
mdc1 : 12/14/2017 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13740640 HomerJones45 said:
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for another Mara crony. Abrams is part of the personnel regime that got this team to 2-10. GTFO.



Landon Collins and Even Engram and Snacks were also part of that personnel regime. Want to get rid of them too?

There's a saying "don't dump the baby out with the bath water."

Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. The Marvin Austin's, Clint Sintim's, Adrien Robinson's, Stevie Brown's, Ryan Nassib's and Jernal Jernigan's far outnumber the successes. Good fucking bye to Abrams and take Ross with him.


agree. anyone that has been involved in some of the stuff we have suited up needs to see a door with a sign on it called "EXIT".
RE: I want a GM who is going to  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/14/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13740504 Les in TO said:
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Have full control like George Young did.


Might as well pick a new team then
Dottino is such a homer  
nygnyy274 : 12/14/2017 9:29 pm : link
Yea let's make spags the head coach and Abrams the gm smfh mindless This team needs to get away from everyone associated with the Coughlin and Reese era, but no, this team is so clueless.
no no no no no  
Jints in Carolina : 12/14/2017 11:19 pm : link
a house cleaning is in order
RE: RE: Did he take questions?  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/15/2017 12:38 am : link
In comment 13740546 section125 said:
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In comment 13740514 Dan in the Springs said:


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Wonder if anyone tried to get insights to his thoughts on our Ross and Chris Mara doing personnel evaluations.

I know he's not going to name names, it's a touchy subject and not professional way to do it when these guys are still working for you. Just the same - there has to be a way to get him speaking about his thoughts on rebuilding the organization.

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
Do you see a need to do that?"

or...

"Many fans have expressed a desire for a complete rebuild.
What would your process of rebuilding the franchise look like?"


something like that.



Yeah, because fans will have say-so in the hiring process. Also, an interim GM is not going to comment on a part owner and the director of scouting.....Abrams is not being interviewed by you or anyone else on this website that we know of.

Why wouldn't they? Fans got to pick the starting QB. Now they think they can pick every person in the organization.
RE: no no no no no  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/15/2017 12:45 am : link
In comment 13741217 Jints in Carolina said:
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a house cleaning is in order

That should probably include Dottino. He's such a shill.
RE: Dottino is such a homer  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/15/2017 1:21 am : link
In comment 13741103 nygnyy274 said:
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This team needs to get away from everyone associated with the Coughlin and Reese era


I'm not sure why this is such a popular sentiment. It was a pretty successful 10 years or so. If i was looking from the outside, you'd think the Giants were the browns based on how the fans have behaved.
It's been bad  
nygnyy274 : 12/15/2017 5:42 am : link
Here the last 5 years. Even in a 11-5 season last year they found a way to embarrass them selves before the packer game. Enough of this mediocrity it's time to move on and clean house
Paul Dottino  
jeff57 : 12/15/2017 7:53 am : link
Organizational suck up.
RE: It's been bad  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/15/2017 8:45 am : link
In comment 13741288 nygnyy274 said:
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Here the last 5 years. Even in a 11-5 season last year they found a way to embarrass them selves before the packer game. Enough of this mediocrity it's time to move on and clean house


The roster needs to be fixed. The idea that nobody knows what they're doing at all is misplaced. They tried to chase a window of opportunity and it didn't work out. They're not Cleveland or some of the other perennial loser ball clubs.
if they knew what they were doing then the roster wouldn't need to be  
Victor in CT : 12/15/2017 10:13 am : link
fixed.
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