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fireitup77 : 12/14/2017 3:41 pm
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Ajit Pai deleted it.  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2017 3:42 pm : link
.
It was  
Bogey : 12/14/2017 3:44 pm : link
Throttled.
Its happening!!!  
ron mexico : 12/14/2017 3:44 pm : link
Everything they warned us about!!!
I think it was a combination of Brett  
bigbluehoya : 12/14/2017 3:45 pm : link
Making bad jokes and one or two posters at each margin of the debate that got it 86’d.
it is available in Portugal  
Heisenberg : 12/14/2017 3:45 pm : link
but it costs 5 Euro
RE: I think it was a combination of Brett  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13740778 bigbluehoya said:
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Making good jokes and one or two posters at each margin of the debate that got it 86’d.


It was all GiantFilthy. Don't know why I'm being blamed.
RE: Ajit Pai deleted it.  
bradshaw44 : 12/14/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13740773 BrettNYG10 said:
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Lol.

I think I had the last post and I wrote something to the affect of:

Oh no the flight attendants are buckled in... they’ve put the drink carts away. This thread about to crash!!!

Haha the partisan mudslinging had gotten ripe
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/14/2017 3:48 pm : link
Interesting (quasi-political) topic that increasingly became partisan-politicized with inflammatory references by both sides.

In this environment, even quasi-political discussions are becoming impossible on BBI. Shame.
Not necessarily you specifically  
pjcas18 : 12/14/2017 3:49 pm : link
but every time I see a "what happened to the thread about...." post I think of an NHL player after an obvious penalty looking at the ref like "what?"

You probably have a good idea why it was deleted even if it wasn't directly due to your posts (no idea).

I left work  
fireitup77 : 12/14/2017 3:53 pm : link
And by the time I got home it was gone. I thought it was a good discussion going on. I guess I missed the fireworks.
RE: ...  
bigbluehoya : 12/14/2017 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13740783 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting (quasi-political) topic that increasingly became partisan-politicized with inflammatory references by both sides.

In this environment, even quasi-political discussions are becoming impossible on BBI. Shame.


Be honest - the you originally typed “Sad” as the last word of your post and then thought better and changed it to “Shame”?
RE: I left work  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13740793 fireitup77 said:
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And by the time I got home it was gone. I thought it was a good discussion going on. I guess I missed the fireworks.


Someone blamed George Soros for something (conspiracy theory type stuff), someone else trashed Breitbart, Brett did nothing wrong, etc.
bigbluehoya  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/14/2017 3:55 pm : link
LOL.
people taking partisan sides yet everyone will be affected...  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/14/2017 3:57 pm : link
dummies
It's definitely political  
Heisenberg : 12/14/2017 3:57 pm : link
The Presidential election is what led to this. You can't escape the political side of it.

It's the weird side of the BBI policy - a thread like net neutrality can stick around as long as we dance around the politics and pretend that this issue, which is a direct result of a change in gov't policy, is not a political one.
Yeah....  
NorwoodWideRight : 12/14/2017 3:59 pm : link
I fail to see how this is a partisan issue. Everybody uses the internet.
Everyone is asking what happened to net neutrality  
ThreePoints : 12/14/2017 4:00 pm : link
So this thread is on point.
RE: Yeah....  
732NYG : 12/14/2017 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13740806 NorwoodWideRight said:
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I fail to see how this is a partisan issue. Everybody uses the internet.


Well, it passed on party lines so...
RE: Everyone is asking what happened to net neutrality  
bigbluehoya : 12/14/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13740808 ThreePoints said:
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So this thread is on point.


It’s the ultimate meta-thread. The thread about what happened to the thread about what happened to net neutrality.

Once Brett ruins this one, the next iteration will be even better.
this is still floating around the interwebs  
Rocky369 : 12/14/2017 4:11 pm : link
Everyone's so mean to me.  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2017 4:12 pm : link
I'm glad your internet was taken away today.
Rule #1: Brett is always at fault  
Greg from LI : 12/14/2017 4:14 pm : link
Rule #2: See Rule #1
To sum up  
Stan in LA : 12/14/2017 4:20 pm : link
The decision today will be in the courts/Congress FOREVER, so in fact nothing's changed.
RE: ...  
Rover : 12/14/2017 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13740783 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting (quasi-political) topic that increasingly became partisan-politicized with inflammatory references by both sides.

In this environment, even quasi-political discussions are becoming impossible on BBI. Shame.

Well since I can’t see the old thread, I wanted to know what BBI managements take is & how this will impact BBI.
I think there are some things that cut across party lines  
Bill L : 12/14/2017 4:30 pm : link
but I did see some people in one post decry "corporations are bad" and in another post dismiss an article because "blah, blah, blah, government is bad". Which is weird because that's equal but opposite opinions.

So, I don't think it is inherently political per se, but somewhat tainted by views of roles and primacy of government, industry, or markets and that does often seem to trend along party lines.
RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 12/14/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13740827 Rover said:
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In comment 13740783 Eric from BBI said:


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Interesting (quasi-political) topic that increasingly became partisan-politicized with inflammatory references by both sides.

In this environment, even quasi-political discussions are becoming impossible on BBI. Shame.


Well since I can’t see the old thread, I wanted to know what BBI managements take is & how this will impact BBI.


BBI will no longer be user donations. Eric will require payment per view as per FCC/FTC.
RE: To sum up  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/14/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13740822 Stan in LA said:
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The decision today will be in the courts/Congress FOREVER, so in fact nothing's changed.

To sum up

Stan doesn't really know WTF he's talking about, so don't go getting too comfy in your jammies.
In the good old days...  
BamaBlue : 12/14/2017 4:43 pm : link
temper tantrums where handled by holding your breath, throwing yourself on the floor and kicking your feet.

Then the interwebs came along a screwed-up EVERYTHING.
hahahaha  
Route 9 : 12/14/2017 4:48 pm : link
You're all a bunch of sensitive flowers
It was using to much bandwidth  
Vanzetti : 12/14/2017 6:44 pm : link
So Gidie cut it and replaced it with the Mr Robot season finale thread
RE: hahahaha  
BrettNYG10 : 12/14/2017 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13740860 Route 9 said:
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You're all a bunch of sensitive flowers


That's hurtful.
What would have happened if NN never happened?  
Moondawg : 12/14/2017 7:18 pm : link
Did it actually change any existing practices or was it just a protective measure?

17 states suing over it  
montanagiant : 12/14/2017 7:21 pm : link
With more expecting to follow
When you have to pay a fee of $20 a month just to watch Netflix....  
Bchurch : 12/14/2017 7:33 pm : link
Blame this douchebag...

RE: 17 states suing over it  
Stan in LA : 12/14/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13740972 montanagiant said:
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With more expecting to follow


Like I said, it's gonna be a LONG time before this is settled.
RE: What would have happened if NN never happened?  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/14/2017 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13740967 Moondawg said:
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Did it actually change any existing practices or was it just a protective measure?

Yes it did. During the mid to late 2000s, some ISPs began blocking peer-to-peer services and VOIP services. ISPs were also discussing charging sites and services for access to faster speeds, though I don’t think sny had yet implemented this.The FCC passed rules in 2010 to stop these practices, but those were thrown out in a 2014 appeals court ruling. The 2015 rules replaced them.
One area that affects a big slice of BBI  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/14/2017 8:04 pm : link
Many analysts are expecting ISPs to shut down Kodi streams as a result of this ruling.
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 12/14/2017 8:17 pm : link
I was planning on cord cutting when my contract was up next June.

I imagine Comcast will be throttling it's cord cutting competition (netflix, HBOgo, Amazon, Sling etc)
RE: One area that affects a big slice of BBI  
Knineteen : 12/14/2017 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13741012 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Many analysts are expecting ISPs to shut down Kodi streams as a result of this ruling.

Easy solution; purchase a VPN. They are dirt cheap and safer to use anyways.

Or, you know, content creators and providers could just produce a more consumer-friendly pricing model....(insert Spotify here).

RE: .......  
Knineteen : 12/14/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13741027 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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I was planning on cord cutting when my contract was up next June.

I imagine Comcast will be throttling it's cord cutting competition (netflix, HBOgo, Amazon, Sling etc)

Yeah, we're making the switch now.
Not only will the prices of streaming services increase, but more consumers will probably cut the streaming service and go back to cable! It's a win-in for the cable companies no matter how you slice it.

Oh wait, I forgot; somehow 5 other cable companies will install wires directly to my house because NN stifles innovation. That's right, I'll just have 6 ISPs to choose from! Problem solved!
RE: When you have to pay a fee of $20 a month just to watch Netflix....  
bradshaw44 : 12/14/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13740983 Bchurch said:
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Blame this douchebag...



It’s gonna go up $8 because of this?! He’s dead to me.
With the NY AG suing  
Rover : 12/14/2017 8:41 pm : link
Will that halt the implementation?
RE: With the NY AG suing  
GiantFilthy : 12/14/2017 8:49 pm : link
In comment 13741049 Rover said:
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Will that halt the implementation?

The FCC is also making it to where there are no states rights when it comes to having their own net neutrality.
What the hell are you guys talking about?  
Route 9 : 12/14/2017 8:51 pm : link
....
RE: RE: With the NY AG suing  
Knineteen : 12/14/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13741063 GiantFilthy said:
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The FCC is also making it to where there are no states rights when it comes to having their own net neutrality.

Meh, pot is still illegal, right? Doesn't stop states from doing what they want. The new America, I suppose.
RE: RE: One area that affects a big slice of BBI  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/14/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13741041 Knineteen said:
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In comment 13741012 Jim in Fairfax said:


Quote:


Many analysts are expecting ISPs to shut down Kodi streams as a result of this ruling.


Easy solution; purchase a VPN. They are dirt cheap and safer to use anyways.

Or, you know, content creators and providers could just produce a more consumer-friendly pricing model....(insert Spotify here).


That would work.....unless ISPs block or throttle VPN services.
Just like a lot of things in 2017...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/14/2017 8:53 pm : link
'What happened?'
RE: RE: RE: One area that affects a big slice of BBI  
Knineteen : 12/14/2017 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13741066 Jim in Fairfax said:
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That would work.....unless ISPs block or throttle VPN services.

IMO, virtually impossible to regulate. VPNs are a universally accepted technology, leveraged by almost every corporation on the planet.
RE: ...  
Boy Cord : 12/14/2017 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13740783 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting (quasi-political) topic that increasingly became partisan-politicized with inflammatory references by both sides.

In this environment, even quasi-political discussions are becoming impossible on BBI. Shame.


Eric, don't sound so surprised. What did you expect? Anything remotely political on BBI has gotten ugly, hence the need to ban political threads. I just don't get surprise.
So basically  
TurdFurguson : 12/14/2017 10:20 pm : link
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