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Landon Collins to Apple (apparently): "Tweet about that..."

FranknWeezer : 12/14/2017 7:01 pm
"...and watch what happens"

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LANDON COLLINS
& #10004;
@TheHumble_21
Tweet about that and watch what happens& #128175;
3:09 PM - Dec 14, 2017
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Supposedly this was after Apple told the media today that Landon's never talked with him about his issues, contrary to what Landon claimed.

Getting a little uglier by the day around there.
Maybe Landon will . . . .  
TC : 12/14/2017 7:18 pm : link
do a full Bedbug Eddie on Apple!
This is bad...  
gmen4ever : 12/14/2017 7:23 pm : link
Bye E. apple. He is not deserving o be called ďEliĒ.
RE: This is bad...  
djm : 12/14/2017 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13740974 gmen4ever said:
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Bye E. apple. He is not deserving o be called ďEliĒ.


He's not getting cut nor should he. At least not yet. Giants will give him another year.
IMO  
mrvax : 12/14/2017 7:33 pm : link
The Giants should speak to both players separately and right away. It could get very ugly.
Can someone  
Reb8thVA : 12/14/2017 7:34 pm : link
Translate it? Apparently Iím not getting it
RE: RE: This is bad...  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/14/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13740978 djm said:
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In comment 13740974 gmen4ever said:


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Bye E. apple. He is not deserving o be called ďEliĒ.



He's not getting cut nor should he. At least not yet. Giants will give him another year.


He might.
Let's not forget..  
TeamSchlitz1 : 12/14/2017 7:36 pm : link
His mother had brain surgery... Now there are two ways to handle things, and he clearly has been a problem this year; but lets give a young kid a pass. Imagine being 22, with the weight of the world on your shoulders and on top of that you get hit with the family issues. I am very outspoken when I talk about OBJ and how I think he needs to be reigned in, but this kid has had a tough year. He deserves a clean slate next year.... and then at the first sign of trouble they can and should cut bait, but it is important to not exclude the human element of the situation.
RE: Can someone  
Diver_Down : 12/14/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13740984 Reb8thVA said:
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Translate it? Apparently Iím not getting it


Landon had spoke to the media saying that he spoke with Apple on his struggles. When the media asked Apple, if Landon spoke with him earlier this season, Apple said Landon did not. When the media came back to Landon, he insisted that he did and Apple doesn't remember.
RE: IMO  
Bchurch : 12/14/2017 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13740982 mrvax said:
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The Giants should speak to both players separately and right away. It could get very ugly.


I'm surprised Apple is still running his mouth.. this is going on like a month? at what point do you tell him to just go home for the season? Someone needs to step the fuck up and handle this shit!
This guy is  
RottenApple : 12/14/2017 7:42 pm : link
dog shit. Just another wasted pick.
Maybe EricFromBBI  
mrvax : 12/14/2017 7:45 pm : link
Can ban Apple from social media until training camp begins.

I kinda hope  
dank41 : 12/14/2017 8:01 pm : link
that Eli Apple gets Geno'd soon. Aka a good shot to the chin.
Apple clearly has issues  
steve in ky : 12/14/2017 8:02 pm : link
and is a real mess right now but I fail to see how Collins thought tweeting that would help the situation.
3 more weeks and all this bullshit is over  
The_Boss : 12/14/2017 8:08 pm : link
Let the new regime weed out the malcontents, irregardless of draft standing. Tough decisions need to be made. Ridding the team of assholes, like Apple, is top priority.
Most ridiculous Giants season ever  
trueblueinpw : 12/14/2017 8:13 pm : link
Itís like every day it just gets worse. What a total shit show the Gíaints have become.
Apple needs to go  
Rjanyg : 12/14/2017 8:15 pm : link
I feel bad his mom had brain surgery, that is a horrible thing to have to go through. However, his actions from quitting in the field, being late from the bye week, and the tweeting issues, he needs to be given a ticket back to Ohio. I have a strong feeling he is the person who talked to Josina Anderson about McAdoo as well.

I know he is young and has gone through a lot but he is gonna be a problem if his attitude doesn't change. Victim mentality.
Real curious  
Eman11 : 12/14/2017 8:39 pm : link
About what the "that" is.
RE: Let's not forget..  
BurberryManning : 12/14/2017 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13740986 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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His mother had brain surgery... Now there are two ways to handle things, and he clearly has been a problem this year; but lets give a young kid a pass. Imagine being 22, with the weight of the world on your shoulders and on top of that you get hit with the family issues. I am very outspoken when I talk about OBJ and how I think he needs to be reigned in, but this kid has had a tough year. He deserves a clean slate next year.... and then at the first sign of trouble they can and should cut bait, but it is important to not exclude the human element of the situation.


Youíre being ridiculous. Weight of the world on his shoulders? Heís was a backup corner on a horrible NFL team. Apple isnít brokering a deal with the North Koreans or performing bypass surgery.

I also would love to know how family issues propels one to power up twitter and throw out some provocative tweets. Nothing spells grief or anguish quite like tweeting support for folks playing against your competitor or contradicting your teammates.
RE: Real curious  
Diver_Down : 12/14/2017 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13741046 Eman11 said:
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About what the "that" is.


My interpretation of "that" is in reference to Apple's collective tweeting habits. Part of which he was criticized when he retweeted the Rod Smith TD over us during the game this past Sunday. He also had responded on twitter when asked why he wasn't suited up, he responded that "He was too healthy" which of course was in direct contradiction with him being listed on the injury report during the week.
I think it's clear that Collins confronted Apple today  
TD : 12/14/2017 8:57 pm : link
Either in person or via call/text.

Basically, Collins is saying here that he did and Apple should have noting more to tweet about less he wants an ass kicking.
RE: Let's not forget..  
EricJ : 12/14/2017 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13740986 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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His mother had brain surgery... Now there are two ways to handle things, and he clearly has been a problem this year; but lets give a young kid a pass. Imagine being 22, with the weight of the world on your shoulders


Big fucking deal... my mother had brain surgery too. I was in NJ and she was in FL. Having to fly down there, getting a court order to force a shitty florida hospital to release her so we could take her to a real surgeon in NY. Having to do that while having full time job, kids in school... and no NFL salary to pay for it all.

No sympathy at all for Apple having to "deal" with some family issues
RE: I kinda hope  
Ned In Atlanta : 12/14/2017 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13741009 dank41 said:
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that Eli Apple gets Geno'd soon. Aka a good shot to the chin.



This
Next time the scouting report  
Matt in SGS : 12/14/2017 9:18 pm : link
on a college prospect says "he can't cook for himself", I hope the Giants take that player off their draft board.
RE: I think it's clear that Collins confronted Apple today  
Eman11 : 12/14/2017 9:23 pm : link
In comment 13741073 TD said:
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Either in person or via call/text.

Basically, Collins is saying here that he did and Apple should have noting more to tweet about less he wants an ass kicking.


That's pretty much what I was thinking too but was hoping someone could confirm that's what the "that" was.
I gave him a pass for missing practice and being benched  
Jay on the Island : 12/14/2017 9:28 pm : link
However, I can't get over him threatening to quit when he is mentioned for quitting on a couple of plays by his coaches as if he didn't do anything wrong. This kid has an unreal sense of entitlement and always plays the victim. He needs to hold himself accountable for his actions but it is clear to me that that is never going to happen. His mom fucked up raising him.
IIRC, Apple Was also brought up in a well to do household?  
BurberryManning : 12/14/2017 9:34 pm : link
Not to say that money or a harmonious family precludes one from having issues but when you contrast that to the upbringing of folks such as Dez Bryant or Chad Ochocinco then itís a bit more difficult for me to shed a tear for Apple.
RE: Maybe Landon will . . . .  
SirLoinOfBeef : 12/14/2017 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13740968 TC said:
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do a full Bedbug Eddie on Apple!


They took my thumb Charlie!...
Maybe Eli Apple  
smshmth8690 : 12/14/2017 9:48 pm : link
wants to be an Eagle?
Jordan Raanan from ESPN is reporting that Apple was fined  
compton : 12/14/2017 9:50 pm : link
an undisclosed amount by the Giants for his sideline Tweet during the Cowboys game. Can't wait for this season to end.
RE: Maybe EricFromBBI  
montanagiant : 12/14/2017 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13740997 mrvax said:
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Can ban Apple from social media until training camp begins.

HA!!
i think "that"  
GiantNatty : 12/14/2017 10:42 pm : link
is some dirt that apple thinks he has on collins (or something else potentially embarrassing to collins and the team). collins is warning/daring him, saying "tweet about that and see what happens." meaning if you do it, the wrath is going to reflect more poorly on you than on anyone else...
People deal with serous  
rocco8112 : 12/15/2017 5:16 am : link
family health issues all the time while making much less money and having and stress. I hope his mom is ok, but it excuses nothing.

Thing is, he is not that good when on the field anyway.
Landon Collins is 23  
penkap75 : 12/15/2017 7:28 am : link
So fuck all this Eli Apple is young guy, cut him some slack shit. They are all fucking young guys (except for old men Eli Manning and Zack Deossie). I'm shocked a snowflake like Apple can get through the NFL meat grinder that usually weans out the snowflakes and only let the men get through.
RE: Jordan Raanan from ESPN is reporting that Apple was fined  
Bill L : 12/15/2017 7:31 am : link
In comment 13741135 compton said:
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an undisclosed amount by the Giants for his sideline Tweet during the Cowboys game. Can't wait for this season to end.
They may have helped him (or not). Apparently the team and the league cannot both fine a person for the same offense; some bizarre form of double jeopardy I guess. So, the Giants might have preempted a larger fine by the league. (OTOH, they might have hammered him more so that they could send a message).
Apple  
Percy : 12/15/2017 7:57 am : link
Brain dead? Looks and plays like it.
RE: Apple  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/15/2017 7:59 am : link
In comment 13741344 Percy said:
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Brain dead? Looks and plays like it.


Considering that his mother had brain surgery, that comment is in poor taste.
Canít they suspend him for tweeting during a game?  
TommytheElephant : 12/15/2017 8:15 am : link
Is that part of the league rules that he violated?
Going through tough situation is no excuse for  
Thatís Gold, Jerry : 12/15/2017 8:16 am : link
being a jerk. I know because I've been through them and am going through one now...about to lose second family member in a year.

Sorry, but I give Apple very little leeway. You can give a pass on some things but effort on the field is telling.

Lots of people go through tough situations but they don't let it affect the way they play and the effort they give.
RE: Canít they suspend him for tweeting during a game?  
Diver_Down : 12/15/2017 9:34 am : link
In comment 13741363 TommytheElephant said:
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Is that part of the league rules that he violated?


It is a part of league rules that prohibit players from tweeting during the game. But there are restrictions for what discipline can be handed down. A fine was appropriate for the tweet behavior.

Suspending players for missing scheduled team activity or leaving the field (Jackrabbit and DRC respectively) is allowed.

Now, if a player willfully shows insubordination, walks out on a scheduled team activity, speaks out against the organization publicly, etc. then the team can choose to suspend a player for conduct detrimental to the team. Apple has been tiptoeing around the behavior all season. He was benched early in the season after the prior week that he yelled at Frank Mara (no idea what job role he has, but the guy was on the sideline). He threatened to walk out on the team after being called out for his effort during a film review. Most people suspect he was the anonymous source calling out the organization earlier in the season. Even his tweeting last week undermined the official injury list stating that he missed practice time due to a hip when he responded to a tweet asking why he wasn't suiting up, he stated he was too healthy.

All of these transgressions are close if not valid reasoning to suspend Apple for conduct detrimental to the team. But alas, you can't impose additional discipline for a prior act. He was benched for the yelling. You can't suspend a player who threatens to leave. You can't suspend a player whom you suspect is an anonymous source. Etc. Apple is walking a tight rope.
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GiantFilthy : 12/15/2017 10:01 am : link
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EricJ : 12/14/2017 8:57 pm : link : reply
Big fucking deal... my mother had brain surgery too. I was in NJ and she was in FL. Having to fly down there, getting a court order to force a shitty florida hospital to release her so we could take her to a real surgeon in NY. Having to do that while having full time job, kids in school... and no NFL salary to pay for it all.

No sympathy at all for Apple having to "deal" with some family issues

Everyone's situation, circumstances, stress level, environment and mental durability is exactly the same.
EricJ  
MetsAreBack : 12/15/2017 10:15 am : link

That's a ridiculous post. Sorry for your troubles but a) not everyone handles life threatening/changing moments the same way, and b) I'm pretty damn sure your job performance suffered, even if just a little, and/or your company was pretty damn accomodating in helping you deal with your personal issues during that time. How could it not? You said yourself you were dealing with Florida courts and flying down all the time... so you clearly didnt have the time to perform your job at the best level you could.

I'm not an Apple fan - i thought it was a ridiculous stretch pick at the time we made it. But I'm not going to minimize the personal stuff he's gone through this year.

With that said, his job doesnt 'put the weight of the world on his shoulders' either as someone alluded to above. For one we havent played a meaningful football game all year, its turned out. Second, he's not the QB.
Apple clearly has some maturity issues.  
Section331 : 12/15/2017 10:37 am : link
His mother's ailments can excuse some of his behavior, but he doesn't get a pass for everything. It is very unlikely he is going anywhere. You're going to cut a 1st round pick based on one bad year? I guess it's possible if his feud with LC escalates, but it is highly unlikely.

Sit him down and make sure he is committed to playing football AND to being a Giant. Assure him that he will get all the support he needs, but that he will be on a short leash. We have too little talent to throw away 1st round picks.
And to those BBI'ers wishing injury on Eli Apple,  
Section331 : 12/15/2017 10:38 am : link
it's not only Apple who has to grow up.
Let's not pretend  
Modus Operandi : 12/15/2017 11:08 am : link
The Eli Apple was the hardest worker, most mature, or team oriented guy in the room/field prior to his mother's surgery.

The kid has simply gone full tilt since.
So far Apple is a clear example of why teams evaluate their #1  
PatersonPlank : 12/15/2017 11:14 am : link
pick for maturity and other personal characteristics, as much as overall talent. You need both to survive in the NFL.
Frankn, thanks for making this thread  
montanagiant : 12/15/2017 11:23 am : link
Because of it I went on LC's twitter and saw he has some of his own merchandise for sale. Picked up a T-Shirt for my son (he's a big Collins fan) and got an Email today from them saying I won a signed jersey of his via a drawing. Pretty cool
thank god he didn't get a hot dog to go along  
gtt350 : 12/15/2017 12:08 pm : link
with the tweet
RE: Frankn, thanks for making this thread  
Sarcastic Sam : 12/15/2017 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13741670 montanagiant said:
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Because of it I went on LC's twitter and saw he has some of his own merchandise for sale. Picked up a T-Shirt for my son (he's a big Collins fan) and got an Email today from them saying I won a signed jersey of his via a drawing. Pretty cool


Hope the email wasn't from Joe Skiba.

*ducks*
I think JPP  
mitch300 : 12/15/2017 12:19 pm : link
Needs to do to apple what he did to Prince.
RE: RE: Frankn, thanks for making this thread  
montanagiant : 12/15/2017 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13741751 Sarcastic Sam said:
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In comment 13741670 montanagiant said:


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Because of it I went on LC's twitter and saw he has some of his own merchandise for sale. Picked up a T-Shirt for my son (he's a big Collins fan) and got an Email today from them saying I won a signed jersey of his via a drawing. Pretty cool



Hope the email wasn't from Joe Skiba.

*ducks*

LOL
Eli Apple  
Giantslifer : 12/15/2017 2:49 pm : link
Didn't like the pick . Liking Eli less each day.
Hopefully, he will grow up very fast or be traded soon.Can't have that immature behavior. Maybe send him to cowboys, they love spoiled kids
RE: Eli Apple  
Jay on the Island : 12/15/2017 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13742039 Giantslifer said:
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Didn't like the pick . Liking Eli less each day.
Hopefully, he will grow up very fast or be traded soon.Can't have that immature behavior. Maybe send him to cowboys, they love spoiled kids

Let's trade him to the Bengals. I would love to see him try this crap around Burfict.
Jerry Reese  
capegman : 12/15/2017 9:14 pm : link
his legacy in part will be his lack of judgement or placing an importance on character.
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