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Draft order + this week's games

ray in arlington : 12/14/2017 11:32 pm
Total wins by non-common opponents in parentheses, including future games with automatic pickups.
To pick ahead you want to get a smaller total (i.e. pickups are bad). Possible pickups from future games are in brackets.

We can project the tiebreaks with CHI and TB to go in favor of the Giants.
Tiebreak is leaning in favor of IND over NYG.
Other tiebreaks (CLE, SF, HOU) are very close.



1 CLE 0-13 (NYG 106 CLE 106) [NYG can pickup 18, CLE can pickup 20]
2 NYG 2-11
3 IND 3-11 (IND 80 NYG 83) [IND can pickup 17, NYG can pickup 21]
4 SF 3-10 (NYG 66 SF 66) [NYG can pickup 13, SF can pickup 14]
5 HOU 4-9 (HOU 80 NYG 81) [HOU can pickup 17, NYG can pickup 20]
6 CHI 4-9 (NYG 94 CHI 101) [NYG can pickup 13, CHI can pickup 12]
7 TB 4-9 (NYG 102 TB 113) [NYG can pickup 16, TB can pickup 15]
(Teams with 5 wins: NYJ, CIN, DEN, WAS - giants can't pick behind WAS)

HOU pick traded to CLE

Giants finish 2-14: Best pick #1, worst #2
Giants finish 3-13: Best pick #1 (#1 unlikely), worst #4
Giants finish 4-12: Best pick #2, worst pick #7 (#6 or #7 very unlikely)
Giants finish 5-11: Best pick #2, worst pick #10 (#9 or #10 very unlikely)

This weekend:

CLE win over BAL is helpful
SF win over TEN is helpful
CHI win over DET is helpful
HOU win over JAC is helpful
TB win over ATL is helpful

ARI win over WAS is helpful for IND tiebreak
OAK win over DAL is helpful for IND tiebreak
CIN win over MIN is helpful for IND tiebreak
BUF win over MIA is helpful for IND tiebreak
PIT win over NE is helpful for IND tiebreak
I think  
old man : 12/15/2017 1:06 am : link
For us, SF and Chi are possible
Thanks  
section125 : 12/15/2017 7:11 am : link
ray.
Really hoped the Colts won last night  
The_Boss : 12/15/2017 8:36 am : link
Assuming the NYG lose Sunday, they could have locked up the 2nd pick essentially with a loss on Christmas Eve in Arizona. I don’t think a win in week 17 would have changed anything because, at worst, we’d be tied with SF at 3 wins and everyone else would have 4 wins. No?
RE: Really hoped the Colts won last night  
ray in arlington : 12/15/2017 11:17 am : link
In comment 13741383 The_Boss said:
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Assuming the NYG lose Sunday, they could have locked up the 2nd pick essentially with a loss on Christmas Eve in Arizona. I don’t think a win in week 17 would have changed anything because, at worst, we’d be tied with SF at 3 wins and everyone else would have 4 wins. No?


The NYG-SF tiebreak might not have been decided by then.
(Note that the NYG-SF head-to-head result is not the tiebreaker for draft order. The NYG-SF tiebreak is described above and is essentially even).
RE: RE: Really hoped the Colts won last night  
The_Boss : 12/15/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13741661 ray in arlington said:
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In comment 13741383 The_Boss said:


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Assuming the NYG lose Sunday, they could have locked up the 2nd pick essentially with a loss on Christmas Eve in Arizona. I don’t think a win in week 17 would have changed anything because, at worst, we’d be tied with SF at 3 wins and everyone else would have 4 wins. No?



The NYG-SF tiebreak might not have been decided by then.
(Note that the NYG-SF head-to-head result is not the tiebreaker for draft order. The NYG-SF tiebreak is described above and is essentially even).


Thanks Ray.
Now that the colts lost what was a winnable game last night, this thing is going to come down to the wire. If SF is gonna get 1 more win it’s likely going to be Sunday. If they don’t, what I think happens is Indy and SF lose out and the NYG F it all up by beating Washington in week 17, leaving all 3 at 3-13. And my assumption is they then pick 4th.
Cleveland  
old man : 12/15/2017 5:39 pm : link
With the 1 and 5 pro-temps...Dorsey will have fun if it stays that way..especially with a tradeable 5 and still get a top 10 if someone is hot for their guy.
As long as he doesn't throw his players under the bus again anytime soon.
hard to believe there are so many shitty teams  
markky : 12/15/2017 6:42 pm : link
and that with only 2 wins so far we could realistically still end up dropping down the draft order.
I think the giants go 1-2 down the stretch  
BH28 : 12/15/2017 7:10 pm : link
that means we need Indy to hopefully beat the Texans in week 17. I think that is a winnable game for Indy. Maybe the Rams have nothing to play for in week 17 so we don't have to rely on a tiebreak with the niners. It would be awful to win one more and end up picking fourth overall. I'm still bitter about Indy losing that snow game in Buffalo. They had it won.
Here's the tiebreak with IND  
ray in arlington : 12/15/2017 7:30 pm : link
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NYG vs IND
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NYG: DALx2, WASx2, PHIx2, KC, LAC, OAK, DET, TB

Total Wins to date: 77
Automatic Pickups: 6
KC-LAC* DAL-OAK* PHI-OAK LAC-OAK DAL-PHI(double)

Total: 83

Possible Pickups: 21
DET-CHI* PHI-NYG(double)* WAS-ARI(double)* DAL-OAK* TB-ATL*
DAL-SEA (double) WAS-DEN (double) PHI-OAK KC-MIA
LAC-NYJ DET-CIN TB-NO KC-DEN
WAS-NYG(double) DET-GB TB-CAR

IND: TENx2, JACx2, HOUx2 CLE CIN PIT BAL BUF

Total Wins to date: 72
Automatic Pickups: 8
JAC-HOU (double)* CLE-BAL* HOU-PIT CLE-PIT
CIN-BAL TEN-JAC (double)

Total 80

Possible Pickups 17
TEN-SF (double)* CIN-MIN* BUF-MIA* PIT-NE* BAL-IND
TEN-LAR (double) BUF-NE JAC-SF (double) HOU-PIT CLE-CHI
CIN-DET BUF-MIA HOU-IND (double)
And the tiebreak with SF (games with * are this weekend)  
ray in arlington : 12/15/2017 7:33 pm : link
NYG:: DAL, WAS, PHI, KC, LAC, OAK, DEN, DET, TB
7 + 5 + 11 + 7 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 7 + 4 = 59

NYG has 7 Automatic Pickups in future games:
KC-LAC*, DAL-OAK*, WAS-DEN, PHI-OAK, KC-DEN,
LAC-OAK DAL-PHI

Giving NYG total of ***66***.

Possible Pickups (13):
DET-CHI*, WAS-ARI*, TB-ATL*, PHI-NYG*, DAL-SEA,
KC-MIA, LAC-JAC, LAC-NYJ, DET-CIN, DET-GB,
TB-CAR, TB-NO WAS-NYG,


SF:: ARI, LAR, SEA, CHI, CAR, JAC, HOU, IND, TEN
6 + 9 + 8 + 4 + 9 + 9 + 4 + 3 + 8 = 60

SF has 6 Automatic Pickups in future games:
JAC-HOU* LAR-SEA* LAR-TEN JAC-TEN
HOU-IND ARI-SEA,

Giving SF total of ***66***

Possible Pickups (14)
CHI-DET* CAR-GB* ARI-WAS* TEN-SF* CHI-CLE
CAR-TB ARI-NYG SEA-DAL JAC-SF HOU-PIT
IND-BAL CHI-MIN CAR-ATL LAR-SF
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