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NYG27 : 12/15/2017 10:24 am
I asked this yesterday but it got buried in the thread. I wanted to get feedback on who you would start from this group.

With our starting lineups we can either start 1 RB and 3 WRs or start 2 RB and 2 WRs. Which of these 4 players would you start in a PPR league?

Alfred Morris @ Raiders
Jonathan Stewart vs Packers
Derrick Henry @ 49ers
Danny Woodhead @ Browns

Mike Wallace @ Browns
Marqise Lee vs Texans
Josh Doctson vs Cardinals
Tyrell Williams @ Chiefs
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Mr. Nickels : 12/15/2017 10:27 am : link
Alfred Morris @ Raiders
Jonathan Stewart vs Packers
Derrick Henry @ 49ers


Marqise Lee vs Texans
Did i make  
Mr. Nickels : 12/15/2017 10:28 am : link
a mistake starting Demaryius Thomas?

Now I have to choose Perine or Goodwin half PPR
Demariyus was  
elisha2014 : 12/15/2017 10:55 am : link
having a huge first half last night until Siemien went down. Then Brock came in and never looked his way again. Brutal.

TE STREAM: Ebron vs CHI or V. Davis vs ARI?
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Rocky369 : 12/15/2017 11:01 am : link
In comment 13741592 Mr. Nickels said:
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Alfred Morris @ Raiders
Jonathan Stewart vs Packers
Derrick Henry @ 49ers


Marqise Lee vs Texans

I don't think his league allows a wishbone.
Brock doesn't seem to like stud WRs  
Dr. D : 12/15/2017 12:18 pm : link
it's pretty bizarre. DeAndre Hopkins went from a top 5 WR two years ago to bottom feeder last year (thanks to Brock), back to top WR this year.
RE: Brock doesn't seem to like stud WRs  
Rory : 12/15/2017 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13741758 Dr. D said:
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it's pretty bizarre. DeAndre Hopkins went from a top 5 WR two years ago to bottom feeder last year (thanks to Brock), back to top WR this year.


Damage control , Usually the stud CB covers the stud WR
Right now my TE is Evan Engram  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 12:45 pm : link
who I'm cool to roll with, but would you start any of these over him (non-ppr)

Cameron Brate vs ATL
Jared Cook vs DAL
OJ Howard vs ATL
Eric Ebron vs CHI
ASJ @NO

I like Engram more than them, just curious what others think.
RE: Right now my TE is Evan Engram  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13741810 pjcas18 said:
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who I'm cool to roll with, but would you start any of these over him (non-ppr)

Cameron Brate vs ATL
Jared Cook vs DAL
OJ Howard vs ATL
Eric Ebron vs CHI
ASJ @NO

I like Engram more than them, just curious what others think.


I'd probably just roll with Engram, might consider Ebron from that list. The Bears are likely going to be without their best S, Adrian Amos, so that could open Ebron up to some better matchups.
I need to sit 1 of the following 6  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 1:54 pm : link
in a PPR. Need upside

AJ Green @ MIN
Marquise Goodwin vs TEN
Marvin Jones vs CHI
Travis Kelce vs LAC
Cooper Kupp @ SEA
Jimmy Graham vs LAR
I really think Kelce  
allstarjim : 12/15/2017 2:12 pm : link
He's been a real weapon, even though SD DEF has been good against the pass, they've allowed the 8th most PPR fantasy points to tight ends over the past 3 weeks, 14th most over the last 5 weeks, and 26th over the course of the entire season. This suggests they are trending worse in this area recently, and Kelce is the top scoring TE on the season (PPR or standard), and Kelce has been particularly good in 5 of the last 6 weeks. Sure, Kelce had his worst game of the season when the Chiefs faced the Chargers in week 3, but that was a long time ago and I don't think a player of his caliber is going to have another game like that this week. IMO, Kelce has to be in your lineup.

I actually also think that, after being held without a catch on just two targets last week, Jimmy Graham is going to bounce back and be a part of the game plan this week. Speculative on my part. I wouldn't play him over Kelce, not by a long shot, though.

Finally, I'd love to know who is in your regular WR spots that you can't find a spot for Goodwin. I think Goodwin is a very strong play this week (top 12 play this week, IMO).

If I had to pick just one, though, Kelce by a good margin.
RE: Right now my TE is Evan Engram  
allstarjim : 12/15/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13741810 pjcas18 said:
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who I'm cool to roll with, but would you start any of these over him (non-ppr)

Cameron Brate vs ATL
Jared Cook vs DAL
OJ Howard vs ATL
Eric Ebron vs CHI
ASJ @NO

I like Engram more than them, just curious what others think.


Engram, don't overthink it.
RE: I really think Kelce  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13741963 allstarjim said:
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He's been a real weapon, even though SD DEF has been good against the pass, they've allowed the 8th most PPR fantasy points to tight ends over the past 3 weeks, 14th most over the last 5 weeks, and 26th over the course of the entire season. This suggests they are trending worse in this area recently, and Kelce is the top scoring TE on the season (PPR or standard), and Kelce has been particularly good in 5 of the last 6 weeks. Sure, Kelce had his worst game of the season when the Chiefs faced the Chargers in week 3, but that was a long time ago and I don't think a player of his caliber is going to have another game like that this week. IMO, Kelce has to be in your lineup.

I actually also think that, after being held without a catch on just two targets last week, Jimmy Graham is going to bounce back and be a part of the game plan this week. Speculative on my part. I wouldn't play him over Kelce, not by a long shot, though.

Finally, I'd love to know who is in your regular WR spots that you can't find a spot for Goodwin. I think Goodwin is a very strong play this week (top 12 play this week, IMO).

If I had to pick just one, though, Kelce by a good margin.


You have to pick one to SIT, not start
RE: I need to sit 1 of the following 6  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13741933 YAJ2112 said:
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in a PPR. Need upside

AJ Green @ MIN
Marquise Goodwin vs TEN
Marvin Jones vs CHI
Travis Kelce vs LAC
Cooper Kupp @ SEA
Jimmy Graham vs LAR


Graham.

RE: I need to sit 1 of the following 6  
arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13741933 YAJ2112 said:
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in a PPR. Need upside

AJ Green @ MIN
Marquise Goodwin vs TEN
Marvin Jones vs CHI
Travis Kelce vs LAC
Cooper Kupp @ SEA
Jimmy Graham vs LAR


I'd sit Kupp. Coming off a pretty big week - I doubt he replicates that this week.

If you're really feeling bold, you can sit AJ.
RE: RE: I need to sit 1 of the following 6  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13742020 arcarsenal said:
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in a PPR. Need upside

AJ Green @ MIN
Marquise Goodwin vs TEN
Marvin Jones vs CHI
Travis Kelce vs LAC
Cooper Kupp @ SEA
Jimmy Graham vs LAR



I'd sit Kupp. Coming off a pretty big week - I doubt he replicates that this week.

If you're really feeling bold, you can sit AJ.


With Seattle's banged up D, I think Kupp is a great play again this week. I have Graham as the sit right now, I think he bounces back from last week's 0 but I think he has the lowest upside of this group. Even if he has a 2 TD game, I'm not sure he's getting more than 5 catches or 50 yards.
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:48 pm : link
If Woods was still out, I'd definitely play Kupp - but I think Woods will put a dent in his production.

That said, the volume has been there in recent weeks and he's doing well with it, so.

You can definitely make a good case to sit Graham.
RE: RE: Brock doesn't seem to like stud WRs  
Dr. D : 12/15/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13741805 Rory said:
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it's pretty bizarre. DeAndre Hopkins went from a top 5 WR two years ago to bottom feeder last year (thanks to Brock), back to top WR this year.



Damage control , Usually the stud CB covers the stud WR

That might be it, but how's that working out for Brock and his team(s)? Avoiding his best WR because he's covered by the opponents best CB = not very good QB.
Need QB advice....  
jerseyboyLAX : 12/15/2017 3:28 pm : link
standard league - Stafford or Matty Ryan.... I'm leaning Stafford....whaddaya say?
Which defense??  
OBJRoyal : 12/15/2017 4:00 pm : link
New Orleans at home VS the Jets

Eagles at the Giants

Thanks!!
RE: Need QB advice....  
OBJRoyal : 12/15/2017 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13742119 jerseyboyLAX said:
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standard league - Stafford or Matty Ryan.... I'm leaning Stafford....whaddaya say?


I'd go with Ryan, nobody gives up as many yards passing as Tampa, and that should lead to TD's
RE: Which defense??  
pjcas18 : 12/15/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13742166 OBJRoyal said:
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New Orleans at home VS the Jets

Eagles at the Giants

Thanks!!


I have the same, I'm going with New Orleans.
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 4:06 pm : link
No quit in team leatherneck... nothing to play for, still making moves.
RE: RE: Which defense??  
OBJRoyal : 12/15/2017 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13742173 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13742166 OBJRoyal said:


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New Orleans at home VS the Jets

Eagles at the Giants

Thanks!!



I have the same, I'm going with New Orleans.


That's who I currently am going with, just wanted to see other opinions. Probably a toss up, but like the saints at home vs Petty
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 4:08 pm : link
I'm starting the Saints in one of my playoff matchups. Pretty confident in that play.
RE: RE: I really think Kelce  
allstarjim : 12/15/2017 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13741972 YAJ2112 said:
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He's been a real weapon, even though SD DEF has been good against the pass, they've allowed the 8th most PPR fantasy points to tight ends over the past 3 weeks, 14th most over the last 5 weeks, and 26th over the course of the entire season. This suggests they are trending worse in this area recently, and Kelce is the top scoring TE on the season (PPR or standard), and Kelce has been particularly good in 5 of the last 6 weeks. Sure, Kelce had his worst game of the season when the Chiefs faced the Chargers in week 3, but that was a long time ago and I don't think a player of his caliber is going to have another game like that this week. IMO, Kelce has to be in your lineup.

I actually also think that, after being held without a catch on just two targets last week, Jimmy Graham is going to bounce back and be a part of the game plan this week. Speculative on my part. I wouldn't play him over Kelce, not by a long shot, though.

Finally, I'd love to know who is in your regular WR spots that you can't find a spot for Goodwin. I think Goodwin is a very strong play this week (top 12 play this week, IMO).

If I had to pick just one, though, Kelce by a good margin.



You have to pick one to SIT, not start


In that case, I would bench A.J. Green. I know it's a really tough sit, but I do think a lot of people are going to be sorry if they play him this week.

If you simply can't do it, bench Graham. Despite me saying I liked him earlier, his risk is a lot higher.
FOR NEXT WEEK  
Mr. Nickels : 12/15/2017 7:07 pm : link
Bears dst vs browns or steelers at texans
RE: Right now my TE is Evan Engram  
EricJ : 12/15/2017 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13741810 pjcas18 said:
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who I'm cool to roll with, but would you start any of these over him (non-ppr)

Cameron Brate vs ATL
Jared Cook vs DAL
OJ Howard vs ATL
Eric Ebron vs CHI
ASJ @NO

I like Engram more than them, just curious what others think.

I would probably go with Engram too.
Here is a tough one for you guys....  
EricJ : 12/15/2017 7:58 pm : link
Need three of these RBs in a PPR league...

Kamara vs Jets
Melvin Gordon @ KC
McCaffrey vs GB
Drake @ Buff
Pick 1  
jayg5 : 12/15/2017 8:10 pm : link
Full ppr
Hill vs. chargers
Josh Gordon vs ravens
Burkhead at Pitt
RE: Here is a tough one for you guys....  
OBJRoyal : 12/15/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13742400 EricJ said:
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Need three of these RBs in a PPR league...

Kamara vs Jets
Melvin Gordon @ KC
McCaffrey vs GB
Drake @ Buff


I’d go with Kamara, Drake, and Gordon
RE: Here is a tough one for you guys....  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13742400 EricJ said:
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Need three of these RBs in a PPR league...

Kamara vs Jets
Melvin Gordon @ KC
McCaffrey vs GB
Drake @ Buff


Tough? Easy to bench CMC
RE: RE: RE: I really think Kelce  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13742338 allstarjim said:
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He's been a real weapon, even though SD DEF has been good against the pass, they've allowed the 8th most PPR fantasy points to tight ends over the past 3 weeks, 14th most over the last 5 weeks, and 26th over the course of the entire season. This suggests they are trending worse in this area recently, and Kelce is the top scoring TE on the season (PPR or standard), and Kelce has been particularly good in 5 of the last 6 weeks. Sure, Kelce had his worst game of the season when the Chiefs faced the Chargers in week 3, but that was a long time ago and I don't think a player of his caliber is going to have another game like that this week. IMO, Kelce has to be in your lineup.

I actually also think that, after being held without a catch on just two targets last week, Jimmy Graham is going to bounce back and be a part of the game plan this week. Speculative on my part. I wouldn't play him over Kelce, not by a long shot, though.

Finally, I'd love to know who is in your regular WR spots that you can't find a spot for Goodwin. I think Goodwin is a very strong play this week (top 12 play this week, IMO).

If I had to pick just one, though, Kelce by a good margin.



You have to pick one to SIT, not start



In that case, I would bench A.J. Green. I know it's a really tough sit, but I do think a lot of people are going to be sorry if they play him this week.

If you simply can't do it, bench Graham. Despite me saying I liked him earlier, his risk is a lot higher.


Yeah, it's really Green vs Graham for me. Green has a tough matchup but the Bengals are going to be chasing points the whole game with all of the D players they are missing. Do they shut it down completely early? I'm leaning to yes.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter much as the only thing I'm playing for there is a contest wide prize I likely have no chance to win. I'm probably going to go Graham.
I am starting the Philly defense.  
wgenesis123 : 12/16/2017 4:05 am : link
Eli always seems to throw atleast one weird INT to Philly. Even if he does not that Philly D-line is going to get after Eli and I expect some fumbles to go with the sacks. All that being said, every time this year I went for or against the Giants I got burned, if I had another reasonable option I would stay away from the Giants.
RE: .  
leatherneck570 : 12/16/2017 5:49 am : link
In comment 13742178 arcarsenal said:
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No quit in team leatherneck... nothing to play for, still making moves.


I'm way too damn competitive to at least not to try to win my remaining head-to-head matchups.
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