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Sean : 12/15/2017 2:04 pm
Seems kind of childish. How many of these movies are going to come out?
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as many as it takes  
YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 2:05 pm : link
now pipe down
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:07 pm : link
I've never seen a single Star Wars movie in my entire life.

Most people are completely taken back by that - I just never had any interest. And I think you have to get into that when you're a kid. I can't see myself suddenly watching all of these movies now or caring about them.
Because they're losers.  
BrettNYG10 : 12/15/2017 2:07 pm : link
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Sean : 12/15/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13741946 arcarsenal said:
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I've never seen a single Star Wars movie in my entire life.

Most people are completely taken back by that - I just never had any interest. And I think you have to get into that when you're a kid. I can't see myself suddenly watching all of these movies now or caring about them.


This.
Because its a great story  
BLUATHRT : 12/15/2017 2:09 pm : link
with a ton of depth and intrigue.
Pretty odd  
Mr. Bungle : 12/15/2017 2:10 pm : link
and, frankly, dumb thread.
Got me.  
Ryan in Albany : 12/15/2017 2:10 pm : link
I haven't see 2 minutes of any Star Wars movie.
Jesus this is dumb  
ThreePoints : 12/15/2017 2:11 pm : link
Same reason like football: it's entertaining and you watch it with friends and family.

Talked to a guy last week who is a big Star Wars fan. I asked him when he was seeing the new one, and his reply was "Not sure yet. My brother is in the Air Force, stationed in Texas, and he's coming home and we always see Star Wars together. He's my date to every Star Wars."
I'll watch the movies I guess  
B in ALB : 12/15/2017 2:11 pm : link
though I've never seen the last ones that were released. I've only seen the first (middle) three.

Not sure I understand grown adults dressing up like star wars characters, waving their light sabers around and/or waiting in line to see a movie packed with fellow man-children. As if this stuff is reality and these characters have some bearing on their lives. Just seems odd to me.

Whatever blows your hair back I guess.
Oh look... Another negative Sean post  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 12/15/2017 2:13 pm : link
In other news... Water is still wet.
I  
mitch300 : 12/15/2017 2:14 pm : link
Thought I was the only one who has never seen a star wars movie.
I think it was because  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/15/2017 2:17 pm : link
it wasn't very saturated of a franchise. That is definitely going to change in the next few years, but the original 3 were the only movies for a long time, so people were jonesing when the new ones came out.

Also it takes a mixture of Kung-Fu, Sci-Fi, and History and kind of mixes it to one story which was revolutionary at the time.

Finally, they always push the special effects to the next level. That was one of the original draws to the first movie. They did things that had never been seen on the screen yet.
The original, or should I say #4, was a true breakthough in cinema  
njm : 12/15/2017 2:17 pm : link
Nothing quite like it had been seen before. People got caught up in the story and followed it. That doesn't mean I understand adults getting into costumes and waving "light sabers" but I understand the origins.
Because  
Butler : 12/15/2017 2:18 pm : link
they're fun to watch?
Haven seen the new one yet and avoided the thread  
Chef : 12/15/2017 2:20 pm : link
but I have already seen two assholes post spoilers intentionally on social media...
I agree with the OP.  
bradshaw44 : 12/15/2017 2:20 pm : link
It’s nothing more then any other decent movie chain.
Also it has a western feel to it  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/15/2017 2:20 pm : link
as well. Very interesting how they mixed so many popular types of movies into 1.
Gotta ask, Sean, how old are you?  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:20 pm : link
I think to really love Star Wars, you perhaps had to live in the sweet spot of Star Wars, ie: been a young impressionable kid when they first came out, and had all the toys.

I was born in '76, and basically lived Star Wars through like 1984 or so when my interests changed... So basically my earliest memories of movies and all my favorite toys until I was like 8 years old revolved around Star Wars.
Because it's fun.  
illmatic : 12/15/2017 2:22 pm : link
So the new ones trigger a nostalgia as well as continue a story...  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:24 pm : link
I've always been interested in. It just felt like a part of my life.

Also, my 6 year old son was 4 when the Force Awakens comes out, and he's now 6 and I'm taking him next week.

He's almost the exact same age as me when the original trilogy came out, and he really loves it and wants all the toys.

It's full circle, and just makes me feel really good to share that experience with him.
If you were 10  
Rick5 : 12/15/2017 2:25 pm : link
in 1977, you would understand.
RE: So the new ones trigger a nostalgia as well as continue a story...  
Mr. Bungle : 12/15/2017 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13741993 Britt in VA said:
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I've always been interested in. It just felt like a part of my life.

Also, my 6 year old son was 4 when the Force Awakens comes out, and he's now 6 and I'm taking him next week.

He's almost the exact same age as me when the original trilogy came out, and he really loves it and wants all the toys.

It's full circle, and just makes me feel really good to share that experience with him.

You don't really owe anybody an explanation.
Pretty funny that you post this on an internet site for Giants fans  
jlukes : 12/15/2017 2:27 pm : link
I'm pretty sure that most of society doesn't quite understand why people post on internet message boards for a sports team
RE: RE: So the new ones trigger a nostalgia as well as continue a story...  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13741998 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 13741993 Britt in VA said:


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I've always been interested in. It just felt like a part of my life.

Also, my 6 year old son was 4 when the Force Awakens comes out, and he's now 6 and I'm taking him next week.

He's almost the exact same age as me when the original trilogy came out, and he really loves it and wants all the toys.

It's full circle, and just makes me feel really good to share that experience with him.


You don't really owe anybody an explanation.


I know, but I don't take offense to the question... I just wanted to answer honestly.
they are children's movies  
Nitro : 12/15/2017 2:30 pm : link
and so if you didn't see them as one, I don't think they'll have the same resonance. While there was some novel appeal to the original 3, they really aren't worthy of the adoration they receive, in my view. It's just part of the nostalgia bullshit that makes comic book movies or Strangers Things successful.

This latest one is just plain awful by the sound of it - I'd tell you what happens but it's probably enough to get a ban from this place.
Britt - 32  
Sean : 12/15/2017 2:31 pm : link
I could have stayed away from the ‘childish’ comment which is probably causing the defensive replies. But it is an honest question.
all of the characters are traditional archetypes in storytelling  
PaulBlakeTSU : 12/15/2017 2:32 pm : link
and the John Williams score is absolutely incredible.

Two of my all-time favorite movie theater experiences are hearing the main theme from Star Wars and hearing the beginning of the score for "Gonna Fly Now" in Rocky movies.

Perhaps it's a chicken/egg thing.
Yes, they are children's movies....  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:36 pm : link
But they are children's movies that pretty much universally influenced every kid that saw them, which is pretty much every kid that lived in the late 70's and early 80's.

I also think it's worth watching the documentary Empire of Dreams, which is the making of the original trilogy. Even if you don't watch past the beginning. The whole intro talks about the climate of the nation, what was going on, and how Star Wars coming out at the exact time that it did really changed the culture.

It was the first movie of it's kind.

Like I said, watch the first ten minutes....


Empire of Dreams - ( New Window )
I get why there are fans  
Rocky369 : 12/15/2017 2:42 pm : link
I happen to prefer Rocky over Star Wars. Tried several times to watch the original, and never made it through. A couple Christmases ago I went with family to see TFA, maybe? I nodded off several times in the theater, but was also on meds.
Star Wars was a cultural phenomenon....  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:43 pm : link
unlike any I've really seen since. Bigger than any Harry Potter or Hunger Games type movie....

It literally changed a generation of kids.
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Knineteen : 12/15/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13741946 arcarsenal said:
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I've never seen a single Star Wars movie in my entire life.

Most people are completely taken back by that - I just never had any interest. And I think you have to get into that when you're a kid. I can't see myself suddenly watching all of these movies now or caring about them.

Same here. And some people take it personally.
I just never saw any of the films. I'd like to one day, but seems like a massive commitment given the number of films I'd have to watch.

I laud Back To The Future because I grew up with it. But I could understand younger generations thinking it was a silly movie.
Like I said....  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:45 pm : link
a whole generation of kids raised on the movies.

It's hard to quantify why, it just is.
for those that didn't see it  
UConn4523 : 12/15/2017 2:47 pm : link
its almost a bragging right to say you didn't see it. Why would you sit down and watch them? Well why would you sit down and watch any movie you haven't seen?
I've never seen Star Wars but I don't bash it  
mac attack : 12/15/2017 2:50 pm : link
Just not something I ever got into or had interest in. I watch sports and wrestling. Many people bash wrestling, and that's fine. But just because I don't take joy from Star Wars, doesn't mean I have to knock it. Rather sit back and crush a 30 pack instead.
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UConn4523 : 12/15/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13742029 Knineteen said:
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In comment 13741946 arcarsenal said:


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I've never seen a single Star Wars movie in my entire life.

Most people are completely taken back by that - I just never had any interest. And I think you have to get into that when you're a kid. I can't see myself suddenly watching all of these movies now or caring about them.


Same here. And some people take it personally.
I just never saw any of the films. I'd like to one day, but seems like a massive commitment given the number of films I'd have to watch.

I laud Back To The Future because I grew up with it. But I could understand younger generations thinking it was a silly movie.


Doesn't have to be in 1 sitting. If you watch a movie every weekend, just insert X star wars movie and watch them over a couple months...
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:52 pm : link
Well there's a difference between sitting down and watching a singular movie I've never seen and committing to like 30 hours of Star Wars movies or however much there is.

I think it's just one of those things that you have to get into as a kid otherwise you won't get it. I'm pretty much the only one of my friends who has never seen any of the movies.

I'm not "above" it, I just don't think I'd enjoy it at 33 years old having never seen any of it before.
RE: Britt - 32  
Mr. Bungle : 12/15/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13742006 Sean said:
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I could have stayed away from the ‘childish’ comment which is probably causing the defensive replies. But it is an honest question.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to, maybe, watch one of them before asking something like this (especially with the implied snark)?

And I do not agree with the notion that the original three movies were intended for children and only have appeal with people who were children at the time they were released.

First of all, it's just factually incorrect. Countless adults loved those original movies when they came out.

Second of all, the original three movies rely heavily on timeless themes and archetypes that date back to ancient mythology and folklore regarding coming of age, family tensions, and the struggles and anxieties involved with being a "good person" in the face of life's many temptations toward indulging our darker selves.

Third of all, if you're interested in landmark filmmaking at all, watching (at least) the first film is more than worthwhile, due to its massive impact on the craft and industry. If you want to see one of the great dramatic plot twists in movie history, watch the second film.

I would not discourage an adult from watching the original movies for the first time. I wouldn't guarantee you'd love it or even like it. But at least, having watched it, you'd be able to articulate what you didn't like about it, instead of just assuming it looks childish or stupid.
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Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13742047 arcarsenal said:
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Well there's a difference between sitting down and watching a singular movie I've never seen and committing to like 30 hours of Star Wars movies or however much there is.

I think it's just one of those things that you have to get into as a kid otherwise you won't get it. I'm pretty much the only one of my friends who has never seen any of the movies.

I'm not "above" it, I just don't think I'd enjoy it at 33 years old having never seen any of it before.


They don't hold up as well today. Especially after George Lucas's tinkering.

Star Wars will be a time capsule forever in the 70's and 80's, IMO.

You had to live it. Some have found it later in life, but it doesn't compare to living the phenomenon as it was happening.... And yeah, it would be a lot of work to get into it now.
I’m 40  
10thAve : 12/15/2017 2:54 pm : link
I saw the first ones when I was a kid, and even had many of the toys, figures, etc. I think even a lunch box. It apparently didn’t grab hold of me like it did many others, as I haven’t seen any of the releases of the movies since I’ve been an adult. No interest in it on my part. Nor do I hold any ill will toward those that are into it. To each his own.
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arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 2:55 pm : link
FWIW, my friends who have seen this one (and the last one) said they're very "Disney" - so I don't think the "childish" comment is terribly off-base. It definitely seems like these recent iterations are more geared towards a younger audience.

Nothing wrong with that. It is what it is.
As far as committing to 30 hours....  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 2:55 pm : link
that's not the case.

There's only three movies worth seeing, and that's the original trilogy, just to say you did it.
Good children's movies still entertain adults  
Nitro : 12/15/2017 2:57 pm : link
doesn't mean their main audience isn't children.

This current set of films have been awful. Episode 7 was for all intents and purposes the SAME STORY as a New Hope.

At a certain point you have to look in the mirror, realize you aren't in that magical time period any more, and rather your just funding Disney's ability to print money with a 2 hour toy commercial filled with hugbox nonsense.
Star Wars  
Csonka : 12/15/2017 2:57 pm : link
I wouldn't expect anyone under say 47 to feel Star Wars is special. 4, 5 & 6 hold up as well as they can, but to someone seeing them today for the 1st time I can't imagine they be impressed.

In 1977 though, it was mind blowing was how much more advanced the technology was from prior science fiction movies. It seemed real. It was believable. Plus it was a great story of good vs evil. I was 11 and it was pretty amazing. It's the only movie I saw in a theater twice. I knew a kid who probably went a dozen times, and yeah he was mocked for being a dork even back then.

Now we're on #8 and I'll be going this weekend to watch many of the same characters/actors I watched 40 years ago. It's nostalgic and a little sad to see how old they/I have gotten. It takes me back. I'll definitely keep watching every movie they put out ... just not in costume.
Front row, center  
BobOnLI : 12/15/2017 2:59 pm : link
Very stoned helps a lot.
RE: As far as committing to 30 hours....  
arcarsenal : 12/15/2017 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13742062 Britt in VA said:
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that's not the case.

There's only three movies worth seeing, and that's the original trilogy, just to say you did it.


I totally just made that number up - I have no idea what the actual canon is here or which are "vital" and which are not as necessary.

It seems like all of my friends who are into Star Wars treat these new ones as "must see" so I assumed they were important. I don't really know how they relate to the original trilogy or have any feel whatsoever for their timelines.
RE: Good children's movies still entertain adults  
Britt in VA : 12/15/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13742068 Nitro said:
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doesn't mean their main audience isn't children.

This current set of films have been awful. Episode 7 was for all intents and purposes the SAME STORY as a New Hope.

At a certain point you have to look in the mirror, realize you aren't in that magical time period any more, and rather your just funding Disney's ability to print money with a 2 hour toy commercial filled with hugbox nonsense.


It all depends on your perspective of "magical time period".

My six year old loves it, and it's something we share, and talk about, and he draws picture and plays with the toys and I smile.

As far as looking in the mirror? Eh... I got my money's worth, they are fun popcorn movies and I enjoyed both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. They were fun. It's still fun to watch Star Wars. I'm happy they exist.
The new movies are not on the level of the originals.  
Mr. Bungle : 12/15/2017 3:07 pm : link
But if you take issue with people for wanting to see the new ones, you might want to look in your own mirror and worry about your own self.
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Sean : 12/15/2017 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13742061 arcarsenal said:
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FWIW, my friends who have seen this one (and the last one) said they're very "Disney" - so I don't think the "childish" comment is terribly off-base. It definitely seems like these recent iterations are more geared towards a younger audience.

Nothing wrong with that. It is what it is.


The way this thread is going kind of reiterates my point. People react with a lot of emotion with anything Star Wars.
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YAJ2112 : 12/15/2017 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13742101 Sean said:
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In comment 13742061 arcarsenal said:


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FWIW, my friends who have seen this one (and the last one) said they're very "Disney" - so I don't think the "childish" comment is terribly off-base. It definitely seems like these recent iterations are more geared towards a younger audience.

Nothing wrong with that. It is what it is.



The way this thread is going kind of reiterates my point. People react with a lot of emotion with anything Star Wars.


Well, usually people react with emotion when they get called childish for something harmless that they enjoy.
Welcome..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/15/2017 3:24 pm : link
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