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NFT: Is a 6-Man pitching rotation the future?

mavric : 12/16/2017 1:08 pm
I've been reading that the Yanks would like to go to a six man rotation. Now that CC is back in the fold, he does very well when he gets that extra day of rest and Tanaka has been found to also be most effective with an extra day. And all sources indicate that the Yanks are still shopping for a SP.

A six man rotation makes too much sense. Less stress on the pitcher, better rested, and not getting overworked, etc. Especially considering that most teams no longer want their starting pitchers to go three times through a lineup (according to the stats nerds). Pitchers are most effecting going through the batting order twice, then being replaced by middle or long relievers...hence, the big run on middle relievers so far and the big money they are making.

Regardless, Yanks aren't through adding to the pitching staff this off-season so it sure looks like they want to go in that direction.

Does anyone else see the future of baseball going to a standard 6-man rotation? I never believed "the shift" would take over traditional baseball, but it has. I never believed that an intentional walk would be done by a signal rather than throwing four balls. So the idea of the entrenched 5-man rotation tradition could also be a thing of the past. Especially with the extreme reliance of stats and number crunchers.
I think the statistics on Tanaka are mixed...  
Milton : 12/16/2017 1:48 pm : link
But I agree with your premise. The problem is it's tough enough for teams to put together a five man rotation they believe in. I think what you'll see more an more of is a 5 1/2 man rotation, where a spot starter is used with greater frequency.

The truth is they should go back to the 154 game season, but that would cost too much in revenues.
Interesting question  
Vanzetti : 12/16/2017 2:08 pm : link
The problem is the first team to do it will be at a disadvantage when it comes to making the playoffs because they will have 10 starts being made by the #6 pitcher that would have gone to starters #1 and #2

So, for example, on the Mets that would be 5 fewer starts each for Thor and Degrom that would go to Gsellman and/or Lugo.

You have to figue that is a 4-5 game swing in wins, which likely for a team on the edge means the difference between playoffs and no playoffs.

Yanks might have enough offense and strong enough bullpen to get away with being the first team to do it. Once everyone is doing it, then it does not matter. But the first team to switch over puts itself at a disadvantage in the shorterm.
Probably ...  
Beer Man : 12/16/2017 2:34 pm : link
a good approach when you have an old CC with knee issues, Tanaka with possible elbow issue, and are trying to work young starters into the lineup who have inning limit restrictions
RE: Interesting question  
steve in ky : 12/16/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13742764 Vanzetti said:
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The problem is the first team to do it will be at a disadvantage when it comes to making the playoffs because they will have 10 starts being made by the #6 pitcher that would have gone to starters #1 and #2

So, for example, on the Mets that would be 5 fewer starts each for Thor and Degrom that would go to Gsellman and/or Lugo.

You have to figue that is a 4-5 game swing in wins, which likely for a team on the edge means the difference between playoffs and no playoffs.

Yanks might have enough offense and strong enough bullpen to get away with being the first team to do it. Once everyone is doing it, then it does not matter. But the first team to switch over puts itself at a disadvantage in the shorterm.


Personally I don't like the idea of a 6 man rotation but playing devils advocate I think teams going that route would view it as increasing their chances of avoiding injury so they may not view it as a disadvantage of being one of the first but an advantage if it results in them getting more starts out of them than they would have in a 5 man rotation and taking into account injuries.

The bigger disadvantage IMO is come playoff time and not being able to manage more starts for you front line guys because they need more rest between starts.
I think 5 plus a swing man or two getting more starts makes sense  
TD : 12/16/2017 2:57 pm : link
Gives you flexibility for when a guy doesn't have his stuff and pitchers no longer have to go on short rest ever. You can give your rotation an extra day rest every now and then, too, without committing to a full 6-man rotation.
6 Man rotation  
bluepepper : 12/16/2017 3:45 pm : link
makes less sense to me if you're only going to ask them to go thru the order twice. No need to save innings when they are only going out for 5-6 a clip. Plus you need to carry an extra starter but need the same amount of middle relievers. I'd like to see teams go to 6 to get more 7-8 inning starts and god forbid a complete game every now and then. I hate the 5 2/3 start followed by a parade of nondescript middle relievers followed by a closer who can pitch only the 9th inning.
Many teams  
BigBlueShock : 12/16/2017 5:50 pm : link
Have experimented with a six man rotation. None of them have stuck with it. It doesn’t work. It’s fine for a couple of turns through the rotation but it’s not sustainable. Too much rest can have negative impacts on pitchers and teams rely on, and pay their top pitchers too much money, they want them on the mound as much as possible. Also, it is tough to use 6 spots of your 25 man roster for pitchers that will pitch once every 6 days.

There are reasons you don’t see teams using 6 man rotations all season.
Yup, you'd need a 26-27 man roster,with an extra starter and, ideally,  
yatqb : 12/16/2017 7:17 pm : link
an extra middle reliever as well.
As a fan who loved baseball in  
joeinpa : 12/16/2017 7:28 pm : link
The 60 s 70 s 80 s, I hardly recognize the game.

I till follow it but mostly through box scores. Back then I would scan the radio dial to follow my SF Giants well into the wee hours of the morning
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