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Myers NYDN comments on GM search; interviews this week

Defenderdawg : 12/16/2017 1:23 pm
“John Mara has made some poor decisions over the last few years, but he is suffering right along with Giants fans. When a flag was picked up last week against the Cowboys, he stormed out of his box and his face was so red it looked like Tom Coughlin’s cheeks in Green Bay at the frigid NFC title game nearly 10 years ago. This just might be the worst Giants team of all time. It’s been torture for Mara. “I’m trying to think of one that was worse,” he said. “Maybe ’78, maybe ’66. Never one where the expectations were so high and the performance was so poor.”… Mara thinks very highly of Dave Gettleman, who worked for the Giants from 1998-2012 in personnel and then spent four years as Panthers GM. He appears to be the favorite to be Giants GM but the plans is to wait for other candidates to become available to interview after the season. But that could change if Gettleman has a strong interview. He will likely be interviewed this week along with internal candidates Kevin Abrams and Marc Ross. Mara was reluctant to speak about Gettleman at last week’s league meetings. “I don’t want to get into that. People are going to run with it and say he’s the favorite,” he said.”
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Gettleman  
EddieNYG : 12/16/2017 1:27 pm : link
Makes a ton of sense as he has GM experience and knows how the Mara's operate.
If Ross were to become GM,  
an_idol_mind : 12/16/2017 2:22 pm : link
BBI would explode.
RE: If Ross were to become GM,  
81_Great_Dane : 12/16/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13742770 an_idol_mind said:
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BBI would explode.
Unless there's something Marc Ross is very good at that we fans aren't aware of, yeah, that would be a Scanners moment.
The Ross interview satisfies the Rooney rule.  
NYRiese : 12/16/2017 2:50 pm : link
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rule  
jurban : 12/16/2017 3:50 pm : link
don't need rooney rule for gm.....
RE: rule  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/16/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13742820 jurban said:
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don't need rooney rule for gm.....

Says you? Because it actually is required by rule.

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He sounds acutely aware that fans are waiting to jump on him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/16/2017 4:16 pm : link
for hiring Gettleman.
"Poor decisions"?  
HomerJones45 : 12/16/2017 4:21 pm : link
Ridiculous and catastrophic decisions is more like it. If he is suffering along with the fans -good. Maybe he will learn something.
BBi would explode  
AnskyJK : 12/16/2017 4:51 pm : link
If it was Gettleman too. This org needs a clean refresh, would be a mockery to bring back Gettelman especially how he left Carolina.

Who else would hire him?
Like I said, I am fine with Gettleman in his old role.  
robbieballs2003 : 12/16/2017 6:22 pm : link
If he doesn't want it or he gets a better offer somewhere else then congrats to him but I do not want him as our GM.
RE: BBi would explode  
jeff57 : 12/16/2017 7:09 pm : link
In comment 13742853 AnskyJK said:
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If it was Gettleman too. This org needs a clean refresh, would be a mockery to bring back Gettelman especially how he left Carolina.

Who else would hire him?


Don’t think it would explode. And he “left” Carolina because he didn’t want to extend aging players.
RE: BBi would explode  
GiantGrit : 12/16/2017 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13742853 AnskyJK said:
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If it was Gettleman too. This org needs a clean refresh, would be a mockery to bring back Gettelman especially how he left Carolina.

Who else would hire him?


1998-2012 (Gettleman in the building): Giants had 4 losing seasons

- Gettleman leaves

2013-2017: Giants have 4 losing seasons

Since 1987, organizations Gettleman has been apart of went to 9 super bowls.

I think organizations would be interested in him.
Gettleman is the choice  
RetroJint : 12/16/2017 8:46 pm : link
and I hope Urn's consulting fee is humble .
I’d be fine with Gettleman  
Simms11 : 12/16/2017 9:38 pm : link
if no other candidate knocks their socks off. The issue will be moreso with whom is hired as a Head Coach. Gettleman was a successful GM and is a highly respected evaluator of talent. No GM is infallible, but the Head Coach has to be capable of working closely with the GM and be capable of molding the roster. Assistants will also be critical hires, as well. Gettleman will be a short term hire anyway due to age.
RE: rule  
djstat : 12/17/2017 1:07 am : link
In comment 13742820 jurban said:
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don't need rooney rule for gm.....
YES YOU DO
The Giants fresh blood, thinking and approach in the front office.  
dk in TX : 12/17/2017 6:14 am : link
That means; no Gettleman, no Marc Ross who is
horrible. I read a little while ago that Ross is not respected in league circles. The conventional wisdom is that he pompous and clueless.
Not so sure why so many people are against Gettleman  
SLIM_ : 12/17/2017 7:27 am : link
due to the reason that it is not a big enough change.

Gettleman's history with Carolina was that he was willing to make unpopular decisions by cutting/not extending popular aging players. It seems like he may have the combination with big enough balls to change the organization and instant credibility with Mara to get things done. He may even have predilictions on people (ex. Ross) he doesn't think is competent enough due to his history in the organization.
Player drafting decisions have to improve. From the guy that  
Jimmy Googs : 12/17/2017 7:53 am : link
says we don't value linebackers as much as other positions to the guy that said Erick Flowers is the best pick on our board.

If you aren't going to replace those guys in the front office you damn well better start putting some other thoughts in their head on how a team should be built...
RE: Not so sure why so many people are against Gettleman  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/17/2017 8:01 am : link
In comment 13743088 SLIM_ said:
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due to the reason that it is not a big enough change.

Gettleman's history with Carolina was that he was willing to make unpopular decisions by cutting/not extending popular aging players. It seems like he may have the combination with big enough balls to change the organization and instant credibility with Mara to get things done. He may even have predilictions on people (ex. Ross) he doesn't think is competent enough due to his history in the organization.



I'd say an outside voice would be more likely to push Ross out the door than Gettleman would be. I don't see how a history with the organization is helpful if change is what you're after.

That's why people are against this, the drafting has been terrible and the FO needs to be gutted. No more half measures. Ross needs to go.
RE: The Giants fresh blood, thinking and approach in the front office.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 12/17/2017 8:12 am : link
In comment 13743080 dk in TX said:
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That means; no Gettleman, no Marc Ross who is
horrible. I read a little while ago that Ross is not respected in league circles. The conventional wisdom is that he pompous and clueless.


And you can throw in “lazy”.
RE: Not so sure why so many people are against Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/17/2017 9:27 am : link
In comment 13743088 SLIM_ said:
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due to the reason that it is not a big enough change.

Gettleman's history with Carolina was that he was willing to make unpopular decisions by cutting/not extending popular aging players. It seems like he may have the combination with big enough balls to change the organization and instant credibility with Mara to get things done. He may even have predilictions on people (ex. Ross) he doesn't think is competent enough due to his history in the organization.



Playing devil's advocate, we just had a situation where an unpopular decision was made on a popular aging player and the fanbase went into revolt and likely pushed the owner over the edge to fire the then-current GM. How ready for 'change' people are is up for debate.
Reaction which  
idiotsavant : 12/17/2017 9:52 am : link
May have been partly based by the contrast between that decision and the direction Mac/Sully/Jr were attempting to take the team in. The context of it.

As if they were searching for an excuse or justification for the failure of the grand scheme that failed.

We all know he's 37. Look at the number of 'draft a QB' threads, for evidence of that.

I am fairly sure that the vast majority of fans want an entirely new offensive system and style.

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