For starters, I am an unapologetic Baker Mayfield fan. Everyone talks about how Big 10 teams play no defense and that he is under-sized and the system is favorable and blah, blah, blah.
The thing I look for in a quarterback his pocket presence and accuracy. If you watch Mayfield's games this year, watch how many times he goes through his progressions before he even thinks about taking off. He is not a running quarterback. He uses his legs when he has to, but he is not an RG3 type quarterback. Moreover, his accuracy is something you cannot teach. He reminds me very much of Aaron Rodgers with his touch on the football on all kinds of throws. He throws a beautiful swing pass. He knows how to put touch on the ball to get it over the linebackers. His game is ideally suited for the NFL because the NFL so closely resembles the college game more so today than any other time that I can remember.
That said, the Jets need to put asses in seats. The second coming of Joe Willie will do exactly that. He is a polarizing figure that will attract attention and, of course, some negativity. But that kid will win football games and has a fire that is undeniable. Jet fans should be all over Mayfield as they could potentially trade back and pick up a pick or two and still not lose out on him. My only question on him is can he win in cold weather.
I am on this kids bandwagon in a big way and hope that he proves his doubters wrong. That is all he is done his entire career. How do you think it shakes out for him long-term in the NFL?
And yes, I would take him on the Giants despite the off-field issues.
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I concur, Bleed. I think it's important that a player such as Mayfield has such a chip on his shoulder. Brady had that same chip on his shoulder when he got drafted. When Brady was at Michigan, he was always competing for a job that he felt was rightfully his. It pushed him. It motivated him. I think Mayfield will have that same kind of drive. And, oh by the way, take a look at his stats. That's 70% + completion rate is not a fluke.
Yes, I agree that is a concern. But this comparison to Manziel is a false media narrative that is pushed without much analysis. Manziel won games in a way that didn't translate to the NFL. It didn't hurt that he had Mike Evans and Jake Matthews either. When I look at both of them, that comparison just doesn't stand up.
Haha. So true. But according to the media, Rodgers and Brady are competitors so, you know.
I think he's freakishly similar to Russell Wilson. And I agree with his ball placement, it's ridiculous, especially under pressure. He'll stand in and deliver a ball that almost doesn't make sense.
I think he's freakishly similar to Russell Wilson. And I agree with his ball placement, it's ridiculous, especially under pressure. He'll stand in and deliver a ball that almost doesn't make sense.
But, but, but he doesn't fit the prototype. Ridiculous to me that a quarterback has to be a certain height. Flutie, Brees and Wilson have dispelled that notion.
I think he's freakishly similar to Russell Wilson. And I agree with his ball placement, it's ridiculous, especially under pressure. He'll stand in and deliver a ball that almost doesn't make sense.
The Rodgers comparison is in reference to his accuracy and touch on the ball. The Brady comparison is in reference to the fire in the belly. Not how either play the game. I should have been more clear about. Good point.
Fair point.
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I would not be unhappy at all if the Giants drafted him at whatever pick they wind up at. I think he is going to be a very good NFL QB. I like that he is fiery and plays with a chip. A good coach can channel that into a positive. We aren't going to find another Eli personality because he is unique, so we should not be looking for that. Just find a guy that has the skill set to succeed.
I think he is a good player and if the Giants are looking to go QB this year and they took him - I could live with that.
I don't see Brady or Rodgers at all ... if anything Wilson (already mentioned) and maybe a little Phillip Rivers?
Ditto
This is a valid concern. Would anybody be surprised if he comes up at the combine 2 or 3 inches shorter than his listed height?
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I’ve seen him in person, I doubt he’s 6’0 tall.
This is a valid concern. Would anybody be surprised if he comes up at the combine 2 or 3 inches shorter than his listed height?
I saw him listed as 5'10" .... if he was 6'5" he would easily be a top 3 pick (imho).