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CMicks3110 : 1/4/2018 10:24 pm
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Fans have every right to be cynical about this, and I have no doubt they will be, but sources with knowledge of the Mets' plans are telling me the front office will do more to improve the team this winter than is being portrayed publicly.

Nevertheless, one name I heard mentioned on Thursday was Mike Moustakas, the third baseman who hit 38 home runs for the Royals last season, and so far seems to have generated limited interest at best.

Nobody was saying the Mets are ready to swoop in and sign him, but it seems fair to say the team is monitoring his situation, well aware there aren't many potential landing spots for third baseman looking for long-term deals.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/mike-moustakas-play-mets-article-1.3738534 - ( New Window )
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So Thor was predicted to get hurt by some because of the  
bhill410 : 1/10/2018 9:58 am : link
Amount of muscle he put on. Some of else are still concerned because he had elbow issues prior to all of this. Its one of the reasons he didnt want a MRI and also why he got a couple the year before. Those issues havent gone anywhere. If there is any credibility to those original concerns it would not surprise me in the least if we lost Thor again this year.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 9:59 am : link
used to be a Champ Stuart "guy" in an extra OF role but he just can't hit... at all. .222 with 122 k's over 320 ab's in AA as a 24 year old = shouldn't be in your top 6-7 OF let alone in line to make the big club. Career .225 hitter so it's not like I'm being selective. At minimum they should be looking at Dyson types (why they can't make minor trades like an Aaron Hicks-esque move is beyond me).
RE: RE: fan predictions would've been better if we knew the injury risks  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 10:06 am : link
In comment 13781220 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 13781192 Eric on Li said:


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Dan even posted that preseason Thor was projected as one of the most likely players in baseball to get injured.



I don't remember the post but it makes sense. Did it have any reasoning behind it other than he throws hard and it's bound to happen?


Yes, multiple experts (including Tom House) flat out said Syndergaard would likely get hurt this season in-part because of the idiotic training that included a lot of gym work but no throwing. Even Syndergaard (at the time) didn't really dispute this

"I get what [House] is saying. He might be right if I was bunched up and tight. But my arm is loose, my flexibility is good. I'm not worried.""

Verducci also spoke to someone off the record he named Syndergaard as one of his most likely to get injured and Chris O'Leary (a controversial figure in pitching mechanics) nailed both Harvey and Syndergaard.
MMO-  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 10:10 am : link
Last night in an interview on WFAN, Jon Heyman said acquiring McCutchen is considered a long shot.

Heyman also said that he does not expect the Mets to sign third baseman Mike Moustakas.
RE: RE: fan predictions would've been better if we knew the injury risks  
Section331 : 1/10/2018 10:13 am : link
In comment 13781220 JayBinQueens said:
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I don't remember the post but it makes sense. Did it have any reasoning behind it other than he throws hard and it's bound to happen?


Tom House said publicly that Thor had gotten too big, that his workout routine did not include enough throwing, and that he would be injured by June.

Looking at Thor this offseason, he looks much leaner, hoping for big things from him.
McCutchen  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 10:22 am : link
is a poor fit anyway. Can't play CF, 1 year deal, Pirates not looking to "salary dump".
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arcarsenal : 1/10/2018 10:24 am : link
Hard pass on McCutchen.

I still want Cain. But we won't sign him unless his market "bottoms out," so...
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pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 10:25 am : link
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According to MLB insiders, free-agent 3B Todd Frazier would prefer to sign with the Mets or Yankees.
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spike : 1/10/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 13781315 pjcas18 said:
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According to MLB insiders, free-agent 3B Todd Frazier would prefer to sign with the Mets or Yankees.



I would take him as the only vet signing thjs offseason. Frazier is a clubhouse leader
Dave  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 11:09 am : link
Cameron leaving FG's to join the Padres
RE: Dave  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2018 11:58 am : link
In comment 13781395 DanMetroMan said:
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Cameron leaving FG's to join the Padres


whoa. Good for him.
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Eric on Li : 1/10/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13781309 arcarsenal said:
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Hard pass on McCutchen.

I still want Cain. But we won't sign him unless his market "bottoms out," so...


Same. Cain, Kipinis, Reed would actually make this a solid offseason. That's 2 everyday players who could be as good as anyone at their positions in the NL over the next 2-3 years (which is the window). Both are positive impact on offense at the top of the order and in the field (even if Cain has some regression from his GG days). All 3 of those moves are so obviously hanging out there to be made, except for the fact that in Mets world spending any money = "unrealistic expectations to act like the yankees".

Kipinis
Cain
Conforto
Cespedes
Cabrera
TDA
Smith
Rosario
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arcarsenal : 1/10/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13781495 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 13781309 arcarsenal said:


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Hard pass on McCutchen.

I still want Cain. But we won't sign him unless his market "bottoms out," so...



Same. Cain, Kipinis, Reed would actually make this a solid offseason. That's 2 everyday players who could be as good as anyone at their positions in the NL over the next 2-3 years (which is the window). Both are positive impact on offense at the top of the order and in the field (even if Cain has some regression from his GG days). All 3 of those moves are so obviously hanging out there to be made, except for the fact that in Mets world spending any money = "unrealistic expectations to act like the yankees".

Kipinis
Cain
Conforto
Cespedes
Cabrera
TDA
Smith
Rosario


Agreed. I wouldn't be brimming with confidence about the team but at least there'd be some reason for hope of a decent year with some injury luck.
yup - and who knows? If Rosario or Smith takes off  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2018 2:11 pm : link
and the pitching is reasonably healthy they could easily be better than the 15 and 16 teams. The defense would be a lot better and the BP too. Less power but a lot more athleticism.

Any 7 game series with JDG and Thor pitching the majority of those games is a series they can win.
With that lineup  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 2:15 pm : link
and if they add Reed to the pen giving the Mets a pen of:

Familia
Reed
Swarzak
Ramos
Blevins
+

that's a team I'd head into battle with and at least feel like has a shot to compete.

but again, the health of the starting rotation will determine how far they go IMO.

Has anyone read about the new off-season regimen the pitchers are using with Callaway and Eiland?

I saw the headline and didn't click on it, but at least they're changing things up.

I was dismayed to see Rosario at Barwis. I guess that means he's going to regress or be injured.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 2:36 pm : link
willing to put my BBI "career" on the line. 0% chance the Mets add Cain, Kipnis AND Reed (or any trio = that amount of money). I believe they will sign Todd Frazier as their "big" add and someone like Adam Lind + an Aoki type.
Massive  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 2:38 pm : link
pass on Starlin Castro.
RE: Massive  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13781766 DanMetroMan said:
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pass on Starlin Castro.


agree, rather run Flores out there, unless he's part of a Yelich trade.
Castro  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 2:46 pm : link
has been better than league average (by fWAR) 3 times in his career, most recent in 2014. -14 DRS over the past 2 seasons good for the 2nd worst defensive 2b in during that time (tied with Brandon Phillips who was 35 and 36 these past 2 seasons) and he's owed 22 million.
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DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 2:48 pm : link

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Mets have spoken in recent days with Jay Bruce's agent. Bruce still very much a possibility.
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Eric on Li : 1/10/2018 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13781763 DanMetroMan said:
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willing to put my BBI "career" on the line. 0% chance the Mets add Cain, Kipnis AND Reed (or any trio = that amount of money). I believe they will sign Todd Frazier as their "big" add and someone like Adam Lind + an Aoki type.


I completely agree. My post was entirely to point out how ridiculous it is that they're a NY franchise and they can't even do something simple along the lines of what I posted. Contrary to what the excuse makers say, improving this roster isn't impossible - finding competent ownership/management is.
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pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13781763 DanMetroMan said:
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willing to put my BBI "career" on the line. 0% chance the Mets add Cain, Kipnis AND Reed (or any trio = that amount of money). I believe they will sign Todd Frazier as their "big" add and someone like Adam Lind + an Aoki type.


Of course they won't. No one here thinks they will. Point was they should.
Starlin  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2018 3:03 pm : link
Castro road slugging the last 2 seasons 394 and 357
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Metnut : 1/10/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13781782 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets have spoken in recent days with Jay Bruce's agent. Bruce still very much a possibility.


So much for getting better on defense.

Even with last year's good season, Bruce has averaged 0.75 WAR per season over the past 4 years and 2200 ABs. He also had a wRC of only 104 (which is particularly sad for such a horrific defensive player) in the second half last year.

HARD HARD PASS
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arcarsenal : 1/10/2018 3:29 pm : link
I'm sure you're right, Dan.

Just frustrating that those moves really wouldn't require a huge financial commitment and it'll still be too rich for the Mets' tastes.

But hey, we might get Jay Bruce back! WOO!
Just to clarify...  
Metnut : 1/10/2018 3:33 pm : link
if the market proves to completely collapse for Bruce, I'm fine signing him for 1yr/$10M and using him as a 4 OF. He'll get some ABs until Conforto is ready while Lagares/Nimmo play CF. One thing about Callaway is that he's not been afraid to bench underperforming vets (something Collins was terrible at) so I'd have more confidence in our manager to use him right.

If you're signing Bruce to a multi-year deal (even something like 2yr/$27M would be gross) and hoping that he replicates his first half last year, I think it's a horrendous waste of our incredibly limited financial resources.
How do you know this?  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 3:46 pm : link
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...One thing about Callaway is that he's not been afraid to bench underperforming vets (something Collins was terrible at) so I'd have more confidence in our manager to use him right. ...


From what I know he's never been a manager before. Even in the minors I believe.
RE: How do you know this?  
Metnut : 1/10/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13781889 pjcas18 said:
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...One thing about Callaway is that he's not been afraid to bench underperforming vets (something Collins was terrible at) so I'd have more confidence in our manager to use him right. ...



From what I know he's never been a manager before. Even in the minors I believe.


Whoops, you're 100% right. I was thinking of some situations in Cleveland where they were more proactive with the playing time but Callaway was only pitching coach there, not the manager. Apologies.

Hopefully Callaway ends up being as proactive as I imagined him to be.
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