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NY Post Q & A - Gettleman on new coach and QB development

GFAN52 : 1/5/2018 8:43 am

Q: On your head-coach priority list, how important is the ability to develop a young quarterback?

A: It’s really important. You draft a quarterback high, and you’re wrong? It sets you back, because then what happens, there are teams that I call, they’re in quarterback hell. They got solid defense, they’ve got a pretty good offensive line, they got some skill players. They … just … can’t … find the trigger guy. And what happens is they go 7-9, 8-8, 9-7, and they never get high enough to get a real guy, and they’re afraid to trade up and trade the farm to get a guy because they’re [No.] 18, 19, 20 draft position. I call that quarterback hell.
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Reading into these interviews  
AcesUp : 1/5/2018 2:38 pm : link
And coming to a conclusion about their "meaning" is like reading a horoscope, people believe what they choose to believe. this board did the same during the press conference.

The point itself regarding "quarterback hell" is valid and a potential reality for this franchise if they pass on one at 2.
The comment about his strong faith piqued my curiosity  
lawguy9801 : 1/5/2018 2:46 pm : link
he is a "Jew for Jesus," apparently
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RE: RE: Lots of good stuff in this interview  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/5/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13773542 micky said:
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Q: What was your view of the infamous “boat trip” the week before the playoff game in Green Bay last January?

A: It’s not a good look. Who’s kidding who? Just like when [Tony] Romo and [Jason] Witten took off somewhere in [Cabo] that year. It’s not a good look.

Q: So you would be opposed to something like that?

A: Yes. Guys forget: There’s no guarantee you get in the playoffs every year. Ain’t no guarantee now! There’s no guarantee in this game.






a lot of BBI'ers will say Gettlemen is an idiot now with that statement because in their eyes it was no big deal or cause of what followed


There was nothing said there that wasn't said at the time. The initial criticism was "It's a poor optic". That's exactly what "It's a bad look" means.
the boat trip  
Vanzetti : 1/5/2018 3:10 pm : link
DG hit it exactly. It's not that the boat trip in of itself was bad or caused the receivers to drop passes. It was that it became a distraction because it "looked" like the Giants were not taking the game seriously, that they were more interested in partying and relaxing in the sun than preparing for Green Bay.

The comparison to Witten and Romo going to Cabo with Jessica Simpson is spot on.
I wouldn't expect the Browns to trade down either  
bceagle05 : 1/5/2018 3:50 pm : link
unless they fall in love with Allen and know the Giants are taking Darnold. Then you can switch places and pick up some assets.
It will be interesting to see  
WillVAB : 1/5/2018 4:26 pm : link
The pro Gettleman/pro QB pick people on this board respond if DG passes on a QB. My guess is they’ll 180 from support to “he’s an idiot.”
RE: RE: That and him pointing out...  
shyster : 1/5/2018 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13773007 Greg from LI said:
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That Walsh had the courage to tell Joe Montana, Rice, etc. That it was time raised an eyebrow for me.

Thanks for posting.



Of course, Walsh wasn't with the Niners when they moved on from Montana and Lott.


True, strictly speaking. But if people think McAdoo disrespected Eli, it pales to the way Walsh yanked Montana around in the last two years of his coaching tenure.

And that yanking around had everything to do with Walsh's willingness/eagerness to move on from Montana to Steve Young, who was five years younger.

Wonder how many people recall that, in the 1988 Week 2 game at Giants Stadium which Montana famously won with a last minute 80-yarder to Rice, it was Young who started and played the entire first half.

How precisely Gettleman recalls that entire episode, and what lessons he draws, makes for conjecture.
I really like Gettleman  
DavidinBMNY : 1/5/2018 7:19 pm : link
I always felt with Jerry , his style was give nothing away.

"BPA"

"Playmakers"

That's about it.


DG's style is much more transparent, without really giving anything sensitive away.

A good read.
Gettleman's comment regarding developing a QB is a little ambiguous  
GeofromNJ : 1/5/2018 8:05 pm : link
It could mean that he wants to draft a QB in a lower round and develop him or he wants to be certain that the QB he drafts in round one is a stud. The statement is pretty vague. Additionally, the comment about QB hell is something that every GM knows and all knowledgeable fans know. I fail to see the enormity of the insight.

That said, I think Gettleman is inclined to draft Allen if the Browns don't grab him and develop the hell out of him because he's the most physically talented, and if he's not available, he'll draft Barkley, play Eli, try to develop Webb, and maybe go QB next year or the year after. Of course, I could be way off. One thing I do know. Gettleman will be watching tape of Webb and every QB in this upcoming draft for days on end.
Great interview  
Rjanyg : 1/5/2018 8:35 pm : link
DG seems like a smart guy and a passionate football man, who loves the Giants.
Sounds like Barker Mayfield may be in play.  
TC : 1/5/2018 8:41 pm : link
"Q: What are the most important qualities you look for in a franchise quarterback?

A: The obvious is the physical ability to do it, but it’s beyond that. It’s the leadership. It’s knowing how to rally the troops. It’s gotta be smarts. Head coach is a CEO, I gotta be a CEO, to a certain degree the quarterback’s gotta be a CEO. Put it in relatable terms — he’s gotta be a guy that if there’s a burning building and he says, “Let’s go,” he gets trampled.

Q: Do you have any size prototypes for a quarterback?

A: Who doesn’t want Cam Newton? Who doesn’t want that size prototype? You know, 6-[foot]-5, 245 [pounds], run a 4.5 [40-yard dash] — who the heck doesn’t want that? With the shorter guys — [Drew] Brees, Russell Wilson — their ability to slide and find the passing lane, that allows them to overcome the height issue. When you’re playing those guys, what you want to do is get inside pressure immediately, to not allow them to step up. Who doesn’t want a guy who’s a little bigger? It’s more about does he have the “it” factor? Is he a winner? Just because they go to the next level, it doesn’t necessarily stop. Some people are just winners.
Question  
g56blue10 : 1/5/2018 11:10 pm : link
A lot of people are saying we have to draft a QB because we are picking this high and you can’t pass on a franchise QB. I am curious If you look at the 10 best QBs in the league right now, how many were top 5 to top 10 picks?
RE: Question  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/6/2018 12:10 am : link
In comment 13774522 g56blue10 said:
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A lot of people are saying we have to draft a QB because we are picking this high and you can’t pass on a franchise QB. I am curious If you look at the 10 best QBs in the league right now, how many were top 5 to top 10 picks?


Depending on who you're putting in the top ten, I suppose.

Goff was a #1, Ryan was a #3, Stafford was a #1, Rivers #4, Cam #1, Wentz #2
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Milton : 1/6/2018 4:30 am : link
In comment 13774554 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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A lot of people are saying we have to draft a QB because we are picking this high and you can’t pass on a franchise QB. I am curious If you look at the 10 best QBs in the league right now, how many were top 5 to top 10 picks?



Depending on who you're putting in the top ten, I suppose.

Goff was a #1, Ryan was a #3, Stafford was a #1, Rivers #4, Cam #1, Wentz #2
If you're going by body of work, you can add former #1 overall, Andrew Luck. And if you're going by just 2017, you can add former #1 overall, Alex Smith.
Some interesting one-liners in there...  
zxasqw12 : 1/6/2018 4:56 am : link
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�Arrogance suffocates intelligence.�

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�It doesn�t validate you as a person. It validates you as a professional.�


I could use those in my workplace. If this guy ever writes a book, I think I'd be interested in reading it
What I think will definitely  
RetroJint : 1/6/2018 8:29 am : link
happen is the Giants are taking a quarterback . That’s guaranteed. And what I think might happen is that he will release Eli. Gettleman gains a fresh vantage point on that nettlesome issue. He is freed from the Stockholm Syndrome that has possessed the organization, devouring anyone who had the temerity to suggest that Eli was on the downward side of the slope.

He will bring the HC in on this. Schwartz’s opinion, were he to be hired, would mean more than the Children’s because he’s prepared for Manning the last 2 seasons. He knows how much blame to assess to the oline, Beckham’s injury, the predictability of the offense, etc. One thing is for sure: Matt Millen (!) and Carl Banks won’t be brought in to the process .
If he drafts a QB, can he really afford to let Eli go?  
Simms11 : 1/6/2018 9:00 am : link
Who would be the veteran in the QB room, Webb? They’d almost have to keep Eli around for one more year and give him the opportunity to start again.
RE: RE: RE: Now I know why Mara hired him  
djm : 1/6/2018 11:11 am : link
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He is straight out of the 1950s. I don't think this will end well.


Wtf? THATS what you took away from that interview?

You don’t seem very bright....



Like the Maras, he seems very conservative in a social and cultural sense. People he most admires are the head of an evangelical Christian charity organization and Netanyahu. He says we live in a "PC world." He talks in cliches. He is exactly what I thought Mara would hire: a guy who worked for them previously and shares their conservative views.


Oh stop
So now we're declaring  
djm : 1/6/2018 11:18 am : link
With utmost certainty that the browns won't be trading down because they traded down a lot in year's past? Is that right?

The browns love trading down. They have "won" so many drafts over the last 20 years I have lost count. But now they are done trading down? Ok... not sure how anyone reached that conclusion but the smart money is on the browns trading down yet again. They love taking the qb that isn't the clear cut #1 or 2 in the draft.

RE: So now we're declaring  
Jay on the Island : 1/6/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 13774825 djm said:
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With utmost certainty that the browns won't be trading down because they traded down a lot in year's past? Is that right?

The browns love trading down. They have "won" so many drafts over the last 20 years I have lost count. But now they are done trading down? Ok... not sure how anyone reached that conclusion but the smart money is on the browns trading down yet again. They love taking the qb that isn't the clear cut #1 or 2 in the draft.

They have a new GM who did an outstanding job building the Chiefs roster. They have so many picks already that they need quality not quantity.
I see nothing in his comments which predict us picking a QB  
PatersonPlank : 1/6/2018 11:50 am : link
with the #2. All he is saying is you have to be sure to hit on a QB especially if you take one high. If not you are in QB hell. I continue to fall back on the belief that Webb does play a big part in this decision (unlike many on BBI). If after working with him for a year now, the coaching staff and evaluators think he has what it takes, then we will draft a different position. If not then we probably will take a QB. If we do then I hope we trade Webb and get something for him.
I can’t believe anyone would know he has what it takes  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/6/2018 12:51 pm : link
The most practice he got was six first team reps during the year and a few quarters in preseason. How could that be enough to know. They have barely more information than they did when he was drafted. His offensive coordinator is gone to Denver and the head coach was fired, Reese is gone and the staff was told to seek employment elsewhere. How would they have that conversation now if they wanted to?
If they pick one of the QB's in the first round....  
Fishmanjim57 : 1/6/2018 3:01 pm : link
does anyone here think they'll trade Eli for Jacksonville's 1st round pick this year?
RE: Interesting that some of you read that interview  
sharpshooter66 : 1/6/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13773377 Mike from Ohio said:
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and came away thinking it means the Giants are absolutely drafting a QB, while others read it and interpreted that they are absolutely NOT taking a QB.

It goes to show you how people process information to align with their preconceived notions. Or that Gettleman did exactly what he wanted to with those quotes - reveal nothing.


Exactly right
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