I'll be rooting for KC (or whoever plays in New England next week) to win and set things in motion, whether it's Belichick, one of his coordinators, or none of the above.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
I just told a couple friends that if I woke up one day soon to the news that BB just agreed to coach the Giants for a 4 year deal , my neighbors would be looking out their windows wondering why I'm doing cartwheels in the front yard
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
I just told a couple friends that if I woke up one day soon to the news that BB just agreed to coach the Giants for a 4 year deal , my neighbors would be looking out their windows wondering why I'm doing cartwheels in the front yard
Hahahaha. I took a nap earlier and had a dream BB was our HC and Jimmy G was our starting QB next September.
1) Fire Gettleman
2) Second overall to New England
3) Hire BB as GM, HC. Heck, make him part owner too.
1.). Fire DG? That's not something Mara would do.
2.) Give up this years #1 - Nope, they can have next years and probably the 2020
3.). HC with say in personnel matters.
Gettleman could be that guy.
Tampa gave up the world for Gruden. Kraft could use that as a starting point. 2 #1 and 2 #2
Belichick could set this organization on the path they are searching for.
Lose a first rounder in 2019 and a second this year but we have a franchise QB and the best coach ever. Take Barkley at 2 and sign norwell #championship
God damn I hope this somehow happens but not going to get my hopes up too high.
Things that are too good to be true usually aren't.
But this strikes me as possible. It's a little like Vince Lombardi coming to Washington -- let's hope that if it happens, BB has a nice long run here and sets up the franchise for a dynasty.
BB was visibly moved. Seemed obvious he badly wanted to be the Giants coach; sort of akin to how Letterman wanted the Tonight Show. I’ll never understand why George Young didn’t want him as the successor to Parcells.
Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Has always been a giant at heart. This seems very implausible, but if there was some sort of mutual agreement , it would be amazing - Something like - McDaniels stays and takes the Pats job and little bill comes home. Crazy. Very , very unlikely.
Fun to day dream about. Like the lotto. Or Ross getting fired... Wait... :-)
but while we're speculating and having fun... Giants might not have to give any compensation. If there's one coach who has a ton of flexibility in their contract and might actually prefer a year to year contract, it's Belichick.
It's the Giants. He loves the organization. If you saw his Football Life, you could see it.
Bingo...he cried when touring the old offices at Giants Stadium. Also the Giants have had about 20 functions with the 86 and 90 Giants teams and he has attended every one of them.
No doubt it would be amazing if true, but like many, I am skeptical when it comes to Gary Meyers’ work. Plus the odds of this duo (Brady and Belichick) splitting prematurely without exhausting this run, unlike say the 90’s Cowboys who might have won 5 SB’s if Jimmy stuck around or the MJ Bulls who might have won 2-3 more championships if not for Reinsdorf and Krause choosing to end it, are slim to none in my opinion.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
+1.
If big Bill and lil Bill have made up...maybe big Bill can get the truth...and if lil Bill wants out of NE he can spill the truth about the reports...and if they are true I'm sure coaches have ' conduct detrimental' clauses as do players. I know its lowroad but having an unhappy coach/GM cant be a
healthy environment either. Or maybe a simple buyout of his contract
and a joint statement that Bill has felt he has accomplished all that he could here..is looking for a new challenge...and wanted to eventually ' return home' some day as Giants head coach. We..the Patriots..felt we owed him that...and knowing the Giants were looking for a HC we offered out that opportunity to them...and they accepted. Bill gives the I want to thank speech...and everybody is a good guy. A few hours later Giants PC: We received a call from Bob Kraft about Bill B...and given all the circumstances we gladly welcome him home.
Everybody wins.
Not that difficult.
Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
Who cares what Gary Myers says? He doesn't know any more than any of us do about what Bill's contract entails or what basis they're signed on.
You've "heard" that Kraft won't allow Belichick to enter the final year of his deal where, exactly? You'll have to put an actual source behind a statement like that otherwise it carries no weight.
Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
Who cares what Gary Myers says? He doesn't know any more than any of us do about what Bill's contract entails or what basis they're signed on.
You've "heard" that Kraft won't allow Belichick to enter the final year of his deal where, exactly? You'll have to put an actual source behind a statement like that otherwise it carries no weight.
Thats Myer's "heard" statement not me. But it makes sense if you're an owner that you would want contra t protection for your coach so he can't just leave whenever the desire meets him.
In most cases, yes - but Belichick is a different animal. It's hard to assume anything typical or ordinary when it comes to him. He wields more power than any other HC on the planet.
I would guess that in order to get him here, we'd have to send back draft picks - but there's no way for any of us to know anything for sure if we have zero knowledge of his contract.
Belichick is family, and coaching the Giants is the perfect ending for him. It's his dream job. Brady's 40, and Garappolo is gone - it's time to bring his great career full circle.
This man's Super Bowl XXV gameplan is on display in Canton for God's sake - bring him home!
would be awesome, but as of right now, it is nothing but a pipe dream that has been manifested by a speculative article written by the fake news media ESPN.
And also, 2 first rounders is quite a steep price to pay for a 65 year old coach. I realize its been done before, but Gruden was in his 30's. This is Belichick though so if there is any 65 year old coach who was worth it, it'd be him.
And also, there is a 0% chance the Giants fire Gettleman. That would look bad for the organization.
And I swear I’m not a conspiracy theorist but the past few days I have been thinking it’s weird that Mara, DG and Abrams all packed up and went to Foxboro to conduct the HC interviews.
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
And I swear I’m not a conspiracy theorist but the past few days I have been thinking it’s weird that Mara, DG and Abrams all packed up and went to Foxboro to conduct the HC interviews.
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
i think the Pats are now in an untenable situation - Bill has been undermined by the TB12 program if nothing else.
And I swear I’m not a conspiracy theorist but the past few days I have been thinking it’s weird that Mara, DG and Abrams all packed up and went to Foxboro to conduct the HC interviews.
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
I think you're reading way too much into that bit - the Bears interviewed him there too.
BB has always been a sneaky bastid who thinks he can get away with a lot of shit. From cheating on his ex-wife to screwing the Jets to the practice taping & ball deflating. He's never had a "Come to Jesus" moment either as far as I know.
2) Second overall to New England
3) Hire BB as GM, HC. Heck, make him part owner too.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
I just told a couple friends that if I woke up one day soon to the news that BB just agreed to coach the Giants for a 4 year deal , my neighbors would be looking out their windows wondering why I'm doing cartwheels in the front yard
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So take it with a grain of salt.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
I just told a couple friends that if I woke up one day soon to the news that BB just agreed to coach the Giants for a 4 year deal , my neighbors would be looking out their windows wondering why I'm doing cartwheels in the front yard
Hahahaha. I took a nap earlier and had a dream BB was our HC and Jimmy G was our starting QB next September.
2) Second overall to New England
3) Hire BB as GM, HC. Heck, make him part owner too.
1.). Fire DG? That's not something Mara would do.
2.) Give up this years #1 - Nope, they can have next years and probably the 2020
3.). HC with say in personnel matters.
Tampa gave up the world for Gruden. Kraft could use that as a starting point. 2 #1 and 2 #2
Belichick could set this organization on the path they are searching for.
Trade for JG if San Fran tags him.
Lose a first rounder in 2019 and a second this year but we have a franchise QB and the best coach ever. Take Barkley at 2 and sign norwell #championship
Hope you wrote that in jest.
It be great to get Belichick, but not at that cost
Exactly.
But this strikes me as possible. It's a little like Vince Lombardi coming to Washington -- let's hope that if it happens, BB has a nice long run here and sets up the franchise for a dynasty.
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
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Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Fun to day dream about. Like the lotto. Or Ross getting fired... Wait... :-)
Bingo...he cried when touring the old offices at Giants Stadium. Also the Giants have had about 20 functions with the 86 and 90 Giants teams and he has attended every one of them.
That said, there's smoke. I don't expect it to happen, but why not dream?
Mara has to inquire.
+1.
If big Bill and lil Bill have made up...maybe big Bill can get the truth...and if lil Bill wants out of NE he can spill the truth about the reports...and if they are true I'm sure coaches have ' conduct detrimental' clauses as do players. I know its lowroad but having an unhappy coach/GM cant be a
healthy environment either. Or maybe a simple buyout of his contract
and a joint statement that Bill has felt he has accomplished all that he could here..is looking for a new challenge...and wanted to eventually ' return home' some day as Giants head coach. We..the Patriots..felt we owed him that...and knowing the Giants were looking for a HC we offered out that opportunity to them...and they accepted. Bill gives the I want to thank speech...and everybody is a good guy. A few hours later Giants PC: We received a call from Bob Kraft about Bill B...and given all the circumstances we gladly welcome him home.
Everybody wins.
Not that difficult.
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Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
2) Second overall to New England
3) Hire BB as GM, HC. Heck, make him part owner too.
3 steps
1) Delete your account
2) Never Post again
3) Commit yourself to a mental institution
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Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
Who cares what Gary Myers says? He doesn't know any more than any of us do about what Bill's contract entails or what basis they're signed on.
You've "heard" that Kraft won't allow Belichick to enter the final year of his deal where, exactly? You'll have to put an actual source behind a statement like that otherwise it carries no weight.
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Does anyone know what Bill's contract actually IS?
Arc, it's a complete mystery.
That's what I'm getting at - since no one knows the actual details of his contract, it's impossible to really speculate on what it would take to get him out of it.
He probably wrote the damn thing himself and had Kraft sign the dotted line.
Gary Myers says Kraft always has him under contract. So compensation would definitely be required.
Belichick, like most coaches, doesn’t enter the final year of his contract. It hurts recruiting free agents and it takes away some of their authority if the players believe the coach is a lame duck. In this case, I’ve heard Kraft specifically won’t allow Belichick to enter the final year because he’s been concerned he would go to the Giants.
Who cares what Gary Myers says? He doesn't know any more than any of us do about what Bill's contract entails or what basis they're signed on.
You've "heard" that Kraft won't allow Belichick to enter the final year of his deal where, exactly? You'll have to put an actual source behind a statement like that otherwise it carries no weight.
Thats Myer's "heard" statement not me. But it makes sense if you're an owner that you would want contra t protection for your coach so he can't just leave whenever the desire meets him.
I would guess that in order to get him here, we'd have to send back draft picks - but there's no way for any of us to know anything for sure if we have zero knowledge of his contract.
This is all fantasy-land stuff, anyway.
This man's Super Bowl XXV gameplan is on display in Canton for God's sake - bring him home!
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1) Fire Gettleman
2) Second overall to New England
3) Hire BB as GM, HC. Heck, make him part owner too.
3 steps
1) Delete your account
2) Never Post again
3) Commit yourself to a mental institution
lol... right
What happens then. What would you do if you were Kraft and Bill just said I'm not signing that?
This has nothing to do with Ernie Accorsi.
Im to lazy to look up the rules
And also, 2 first rounders is quite a steep price to pay for a 65 year old coach. I realize its been done before, but Gruden was in his 30's. This is Belichick though so if there is any 65 year old coach who was worth it, it'd be him.
And also, there is a 0% chance the Giants fire Gettleman. That would look bad for the organization.
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
i think the Pats are now in an untenable situation - Bill has been undermined by the TB12 program if nothing else.
Now I understand, 2 coordinators, same team, bad weather. But still, why couldn’t those guys get down to Giants HQ?
Is it possible that with all this news breaking and the Patriots knowing everything has been fractured internally anyway, that BB is the real reason the Giants went up there today?
I think you're reading way too much into that bit - the Bears interviewed him there too.
"The bullshit is piling up so fast, you need wings to stay above it."
Whatever he does really won't surprise me.