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frankmihs : 1/6/2018 1:37 pm
DRC- Saves 6.5
JERRY- Saves 2.5
APPLE- $ NOT SURE WITH RECENT SUSPENSION
MARSHALL-Saves 5
MANNING-Saves 10
Harris-Saves 2.5

Can we replace them with what we save? I would say yes for DRC, Marshall and Harris. Not sure about Apple. It looks like we have about 23 million in cap space. If we cut the people I suggested we would then have 37 million. Not a ton but still plenty to get work done, especially if they created for the contracts.
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frankmihs : 1/6/2018 1:38 pm : link
Especially if they get creative with the contracts.
Marshall and Harris  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/6/2018 1:43 pm : link
Are prime cut candidates. The rest are debatable.
Brad Wing  
djstat : 1/6/2018 1:45 pm : link
Would save $1.4 Million and he is AWFUL
Hopefully Jerry which means  
eli4life : 1/6/2018 1:49 pm : link
Dg upgraded the line which probably isnít that hard for this group
RE: Brad Wing  
AcidTest : 1/6/2018 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13774984 djstat said:
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Would save $1.4 Million and he is AWFUL


I'd have no problem cutting Wing.
How much  
frankmihs : 1/6/2018 1:52 pm : link
Will Cockrell get?
RE: Marshall and Harris  
jogo1 : 1/6/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13774982 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Are prime cut candidates. The rest are debatable.


This. Harris' contract looked ridiculous at the time, and still does today.

DRC is an interesting case--they severely cut his snaps this year even though he hasn't shown any indication of decline. I'd keep him on as the #2/#3 CB--he's certainly better than Apple.
Who exactly were we bidding against....  
MOOPS : 1/6/2018 1:57 pm : link
when we gave Jerry his contract?
The bonus and years 2 and 3 salary stinks of desperation.
Cut year 2 salary to $1M and he can buy himself 2018. Otherwise bye-bye.
Eli's somehow needs to be made more cap  
Blue21 : 1/6/2018 2:02 pm : link
friendly. Not sure how but it would help.
Cut or restructure DRC  
adamg : 1/6/2018 2:05 pm : link
Tough to pay for sub 50% of snaps
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arcarsenal : 1/6/2018 2:06 pm : link
Keep DRC.

I have no problem with any of the others getting cut.

(Besides, Eli - that's obviously going to be a different case)
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adamg : 1/6/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13775013 arcarsenal said:
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Keep DRC.

I have no problem with any of the others getting cut.

(Besides, Eli - that's obviously going to be a different case)


If DRC was the difference between having another FA starter on the o line would you still keep him?
Keep DRC.. contract year for him  
DennyInDenville : 1/6/2018 2:16 pm : link
Good value for his talent.

Plus Apple sucks
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arcarsenal : 1/6/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13775016 adamg said:
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In comment 13775013 arcarsenal said:


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Keep DRC.

I have no problem with any of the others getting cut.

(Besides, Eli - that's obviously going to be a different case)



If DRC was the difference between having another FA starter on the o line would you still keep him?


I'd have to know who the player was, what type of contract they'd require, and what other options we'd have as far as maneuvering the cap. Too hard to say.

If we're making all things equal and you're asking me to choose between a productive, reputable offensive lineman who has proven to be steady and DRC, I'd probably take the lineman.

But I'd prefer to keep DRC if possible.

I'm not sure why his usage was what it was - but I think he's still a good DB and he was still busting his ass later in the year when the games meant nothing.
Cutting Eli Manning  
sharpshooter66 : 1/6/2018 2:20 pm : link
Would be asinine. No one wants to go into next season without a QB on the roster, or with a rookie and Webb as the only options. Then take into account that it will completely handcuff Gettleman on his offseason decisions
RE: Brad Wing  
Clintqb17 : 1/6/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13774984 djstat said:
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Would save $1.4 Million and he is AWFUL


Wing played a big part losing us 2 games. You canít have that out of your punter.
RE: Brad Wing  
bradshaw44 : 1/6/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13774984 djstat said:
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Would save $1.4 Million and he is AWFUL


I like your thinking.
The only issue  
larryinnewhaven : 1/6/2018 2:29 pm : link
with Wing is hes Odells closest friend. Probably doesn't mean anything though.
If Marshall  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 3:01 pm : link
comes back it will be with a pay cut.
I'd give Brandon Marshal 10$ dollars just to quit  
idiotsavant : 1/6/2018 3:05 pm : link
Wrong mind set.
Yes to...  
gmen4ever : 1/6/2018 3:21 pm : link
Jerry and Harris. Marshall at lower price or cut. I saw Brad Wing and do agree...needs to go. Eli should restructure.
Get rid of Wing  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/6/2018 3:24 pm : link
Sign Jeremy Hill and Jarvis Landry, Odell's two best friends from LSU if you are concerned with him getting lonely.
I agree  
sharpshooter66 : 1/6/2018 3:30 pm : link
That Manning should be restructured, we should move on from Wing and Marshall,
Cut  
Bluesbreaker : 1/6/2018 3:44 pm : link
Harris and Jerry never understood why they extended Jerry
I like Harris but he is no longer a return threat .Have to try and salvage Apple and I see no reason to dump DRC .
They need to replace Wing but we still need a punter so
not sure you should just cut him .
RE: The only issue  
markky : 1/6/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13775046 larryinnewhaven said:
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with Wing is hes Odells closest friend. Probably doesn't mean anything though.


they can still be friends.
Keep  
section125 : 1/6/2018 3:59 pm : link
DRC, Manning, Jerry and Apple.

Jerry at worst is the #3 guard. DRC is still a good player and the worth money. Apple depends on Gettleman.

The rest can go.

Re-sign Cockrell. If needed keep Cockrell and cut DRC. Cockrell should be cheaper than DRC.
Why?  
Doomster : 1/6/2018 10:50 pm : link
Cutting Eli Manning
sharpshooter66 : 2:20 pm : link : reply
Would be asinine.

Think this team will be in the SB in 2018 or 2019? If yes, and you think Eli can function behind an unknown OL, then keep him....if you don't, you cut him and and use that 10M to start the rebuild....

Hard decisions have to be made for the future, and may not show immediate results.....but we can't continue the same path of mistakenly thinking we are only few players away, like we have the last 6 seasons......
RE: I'd give Brandon Marshal 10$ dollars just to quit  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/7/2018 5:43 am : link
In comment 13775097 idiotsavant said:
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Wrong mind set.


Historically, teams always improve after Marshall leaves.
DRC can still play  
TommytheElephant : 1/7/2018 7:59 am : link
I donít agree with cutting him.
We save 6.5m, and then we have to find someone to fill that hole anyway.
Just doesnít make sense to me
the first factor  
fkap : 1/7/2018 8:35 am : link
is whether you can replace the player with someone of equal or greater ability at equal or lower cost.

I don't know who is available, whether it's FA or draft.

With Marshall and Harris, it's easy to believe we can find better players, and that the cost would be cheaper.

With Manning, you can probably sign a Geno Smith as a cheaper stop gap until Webb/Drafted QB have some seasoning, if you think Eli is kaput. If you think Manning still has gas in the tank, it gets complicated. How long is Eli good for? What do you think of Webb? the current crop of draft QB?

With DRC, this is his last year under contract. IF he's in your plans beyond this year, extend his contract and reduce the cap hit. IF he's not AND you can find a quality multi year replacement, dump him and get the new guy. the way most contracts are set up, the first year hit will be lower than DRC's current hit. unless there's a roster bonus due, there's no rush to cut him til we see what happens in FA or draft.
DRC and Apple will be kept  
Jimmy Googs : 1/7/2018 8:59 am : link
the rest have no future value in our restructuring...
If you start at $23 million available  
SchindlersFist : 1/7/2018 10:19 am : link
and make all of those cuts, they have $49 million available, not $37 million.
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