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All the talk about trading down in the first.

mdthedream : 1/6/2018 3:30 pm
I really feel we take a QB with the second big of the draft. Than in the second day when teams look at the board all night long we trade back a view picks to a team that wants a player badly on the draft board and we get extra draft picks to build the Oline and maybe add a stud RB.
Gree I a with  
CT Charlie : 1/6/2018 3:38 pm : link
yu, bemay. Surenot tho.
If we trade back in the first we will get future first round pics  
Giants_West : 1/6/2018 3:44 pm : link
Those can be used to move up in future drafts and get a better prospect at the qb position if the org isnít sold on the qbs in this class as being championship caliber guys.

That would also likely net us a number of picks in the early second round. Otherwise I stay home in the first two rounds and consider moving back in the third.
The Giants  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 3:48 pm : link
I feel will take a QB with the second because it is a huge need just like O-Line and we can build the O-line in the second esp adding early round picks for trading down in the second day.
RE: If we trade back in the first we will get future first round pics  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/6/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13775145 Giants_West said:
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Those can be used to move up in future drafts and get a better prospect at the qb position if the org isnít sold on the qbs in this class as being championship caliber guys.

That would also likely net us a number of picks in the early second round. Otherwise I stay home in the first two rounds and consider moving back in the third.


This is one of the better QB draft classes in a very long time.
If this is one of the best QB draft classes why can't we trade down  
wgenesis123 : 1/6/2018 4:04 pm : link
and still get a QB?
Because QB is a unique position  
Dave on the UWS : 1/6/2018 4:16 pm : link
You take one if you have conviction on one and do whatever you have to to get THAT guy (like what the Eagles did with Wentz). You don't "trade" down and take whoever is left. That's a good way to try to put a "square peg in a round hole".
After the combines and pro days the issues should be clearer. I can see them working something with Cleveland if they have a strong conviction on one of these guys.
Dave  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 4:21 pm : link
totally agree you take who you feel is the best and fits what you do.
Trading  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 4:22 pm : link
back in the second round a few spots would be a way to help rebuild the line and maybe add that stud RB.
Not a chance it will happen.  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 1/6/2018 4:26 pm : link
QB time.
Whoops  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 1/6/2018 4:27 pm : link
Misread that.

The second day of the draft allows for more mobility.
There is a huge difference  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/6/2018 5:04 pm : link
In point values on the value board between the top couple of picks in the first versus the second. If you trade back in the first you can pick up multiple draft picks in the second and third rounds. Trading back in the second doesnít do that.

If you trade back from 2 to 6 in the first, that is worth 1000 points which is worth 2-3 players in the second round. Trading back from the 2 to the 6 in the second round only nets you 50 points which is equivalent to one player near the bottom of the 4th round.

Not that I am advocating the Giants do that but the premise that you can do the same thing by trading back in the second isnít really that effective.
Peter  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 5:57 pm : link
I believe that taking the BEST QB in round one is the best value period so in the second round we can trade back and add O-Line talent. The fact is teams seem to trade up in the early second because it is the second day and they have really looked at all the talent and want a certain player so they are will to give up a extra 3rd and so on.
The draft pick trade value board sometimes  
mdthedream : 1/6/2018 5:59 pm : link
is not used esp if a team wants the QB in the second.
RE: Not a chance it will happen.  
bLiTz 2k : 1/6/2018 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13775190 K-Gun? Pop-Gun said:
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QB time.


i love the conviction some of you have..

None  
charlito : 1/6/2018 6:29 pm : link
Of these Quarterbacks are worthy of the 2nd pick this year. Trade back.
Says who?  
Doomster : 1/6/2018 10:05 pm : link
RE: If we trade back in the first we will get future first round pics
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3:50 pm : link : reply

This is one of the better QB draft classes in a very long time.



This is what we heard in last year's draft, that the upcoming one this year will have a better draft of qb's.....

Only problem is, the qb's didn't read the memo....
I don't remember anyone  
mdthedream : 1/7/2018 12:02 am : link
saying last years draft was a good QB draft going in. This year is. Next year we might not get a high enough draft selection to pick one.
RE: I don't remember anyone  
TheMick7 : 1/7/2018 9:03 am : link
In comment 13775808 mdthedream said:
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saying last years draft was a good QB draft going in. This year is. Next year we might not get a high enough draft selection to pick one.


This! Unless you believe that the Giants are destined to become the NFC's Browns & have a #1-2 pick every year.If DG believes Rosen,Darnold or Allen are our future franchise QB, you make the pick. It seems there's a large amount of people who want to trade & amass a pile of high picks. I certainly understand that logic,but for me, in the NFL w/o a quality QB,you don't win! So again,if DG views any of the 3 as "our guy" you make the pick & hope it's the right one so that we don't have to be picking this high again for a long time!
The "value board"  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/7/2018 9:08 am : link
is mostly obsolete at this point.
RE: Because QB is a unique position  
Reale01 : 1/7/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 13775184 Dave on the UWS said:
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You take one if you have conviction on one and do whatever you have to to get THAT guy (like what the Eagles did with Wentz). You don't "trade" down and take whoever is left. That's a good way to try to put a "square peg in a round hole".
After the combines and pro days the issues should be clearer. I can see them working something with Cleveland if they have a strong conviction on one of these guys.


The Eagles were not sure if they would get Goff or Wentz at the time of their trade. Saying they had a "conviction" on Wentz is not accurate.
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