You rarely get such a direct 1on 1comparison of 2 HC candidates.
McDaniels was Rams OC in 2011and Shurmur was Rams OC in 2010.
They both served under the same HC in Spagnuolo. The had the same offense with same QB.
The 2011 Rams under McDaniels as OC went 2-14 after going 7-9 in 2010. The Rams offense under McDaniels was among the worst in the league in 2011. They scored only 193 points (12.1 points per game), last in the league, and 11th-fewest all-time for a 16-game season.[1] Their & #8722;214 point differential was last in the league.
Josh McDaniels and the whole Rams staff was fired right after the season and he went back to NE.
So how did Shurmur do?
The 2010 Rams went 7-9 after going just 1-15 in 2009. This was the second-biggest turnaround in the league in 2010. He guided St. Louis’ offense to improvements in nearly every category including total yards, time of possession and third-down percentage, while they also scored 114 more points than the previous year. In addition, the Rams committed just 21 turnovers in 2010, tied for the ninth-lowest total in the NFL.[1]
Shurmur also made a tangible impact on Sam Bradford’s immediate success as a rookie in 2010. The first-overall pick out of the University of Oklahoma set NFL rookie records for most consecutive passes without an interception (169) and most completions (354). Under Shurmur’s tutelage, Bradford finished the season with a 60.0 completion percentage, 3,512 yards and 18 touchdown passes, winning the AP NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year Award.
So Rams before Shurmur 1-15. So Rams and with Josh McDaniels after Shurmur 2-14.
This is a direct 1 to 1comparison in the same job just a year apart.
Schumer’s offenses in Rams, Eagles, Vikings & Browns have all been very different. He’s not simply a “West Coast” guy. He put up huge numbers runnng Chip Kelly’s offense.
So McDaniels get a pass for 2009 and 2010 in Denver and 2011 in St Louis?
Shurmur made some doughnuts with some team, same offense, same QB.
Second, my whole point was that the 2010 and 2011 Rams were not the same team. Seriously, look at the injuries on the line and the resultant beating Bradford took. I doubt Bill Walsh could have salvaged that mess. It didn’t help that Spagnuolo lost the team, even before Bradford went down.
Its not impressive
Shurmur left him something to work with, It’s not a wholesale 100% different team, different system.
Injuries etc alone dont explain the difference of a single season under 2 different guys.
I dont see how its not relevant
I dont see how its not relevant
7 years ago. Are you suggesting that McDaniels hasn’t learned anything or gotten better at his job in the last 7 years? Shurmur was also 45 years old when he was the OC there and had tons of experience. McDaniels still won’t be 45 for 3 more years. He was a pup back then.
The weakness in the McDaniels candidacy is that hes only been good in one place for one team for one HC and one QB.
The evidence to suggest its just a NE thing is his time elsewhere