Steve Wilks claim to fame is 1 year as DC of this Panther D
So far, 244 yards of offense allowed. 3 TD drives allowed. Brees has a 151 QB rating. This is just in one half of football
Forget takeaways or sacks, the Carolina D has managed just 1 QB hurry and only 1 tackle for loss. Ie no pressure at all
But don't worry. Wilks is gonna command that room at halftime and lead men in the second half
Seriously. If someone doesn’t want to know the scores yet, why the fuck would they open BBI? Or the internet in general?
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
IT certainly has kept them in the game. Cam scores here some how they go ahead.
How did his defense do against Shurmur?
And, fwiw, the saints have scored three points in the second half, so he did something right in the locker room at halftime.
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
24 points nearly midway through the fourth quarter in the super dome is not a bad performance.
NO hasn't done a lot lately.
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
If you told any DC coming into this game it would come down to Ginn and Josh Hill the DC would take that every time. Carolina has shut down the run. They’ve shut down explosive pass plays to Ingram/Kamara. Thomas has been pedestrian. They’re only 5 down with 9 minutes left. All things considered, I think the plan has been ok win or lose.
That doesn't bother me, Carolina isn't a great team, but they are a good team.
They look pretty good hanging in versus a really good team
Thats not true
Gettleman didn't draft Cam Newton or Luke Kuechly or hire Ron Rivera
Ya know, the actual good parts
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That this is essentially Dave Gettlemans drafted team (ducks and covers)...
Thats not true
Gettleman didn't draft Cam Newton or Luke Kuechly or hire Ron Rivera
Ya know, the actual good parts
He drafted the guy who just scored that td! You guys are miserable
I’m neutral on Wilks but rushing yards allowed is not necessarily meaningful when you allow 350 yards passing
Judge*
Sure hope they aren’t overselling this whole commands a room thing.
Well, in his first year as DC, Carolina was 8th in YPG, 10th in PPG, and 3rd in rush yards per game.
The Carolina D has just given them a chance to win and this thread was started in the 1st half.
Then again, somebody started a thread talking about Jacoby Brissett being a sure-fire star after literally a quarter of play in a game he ended up having three turnovers in and losing.
It basically means we have a lot of reactionary dumbasses here.
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
If you told any DC coming into this game it would come down to Ginn and Josh Hill the DC would take that every time. Carolina has shut down the run. They’ve shut down explosive pass plays to Ingram/Kamara. Thomas has been pedestrian. They’re only 5 down with 9 minutes left. All things considered, I think the plan has been ok win or lose.
The problem is they’re losing and all those tertiary players are still beating their better defenders. I understand the game plan, but it hasn’t worked.
He’ll fit right in here. The Saints are usually good for 40+ against any Giants team.
Not as a candidate, maybe, because, not sure the mechanics of prying him from nawlins. And you do need serious hawgs not just mollies for that shtuff he runs.
But a great example.
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In comment 13777058 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
If you told any DC coming into this game it would come down to Ginn and Josh Hill the DC would take that every time. Carolina has shut down the run. They’ve shut down explosive pass plays to Ingram/Kamara. Thomas has been pedestrian. They’re only 5 down with 9 minutes left. All things considered, I think the plan has been ok win or lose.
The problem is they’re losing and all those tertiary players are still beating their better defenders. I understand the game plan, but it hasn’t worked.
The defense gave them a chance to win on the road vs a team that’s a good bet to rep the NFC in the playoffs. I think he did a solid job today al things considered.
Actually Panthers defense kept them in game second half.
I like the second half adjustments Wilks made. Put them in position to win.
Huge stop at the end of the game.
Carolina D showed pretty well today overall.
And as pointed out, his only experience as DC is from the booth by his choice.
“My first year, I’m going to do it from up top. I know a lot of guys do it from the field, but I want to be up there so I can see things and get ready for the next call, away from the sideline with all the emotion and hoopla. I’ll be focused and locked in.
That, and Cam(who seemed like he was on a sedative the whole game, but coming out of it the last 5 minutes).
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In comment 13777070 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 13777058 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Carolina has held hen to 30 something the entire game. D Coordintoar must suck.
They are sacrificing their secondary in doing so and it hasn't paid off so far.
Brees is picking them apart.
If you told any DC coming into this game it would come down to Ginn and Josh Hill the DC would take that every time. Carolina has shut down the run. They’ve shut down explosive pass plays to Ingram/Kamara. Thomas has been pedestrian. They’re only 5 down with 9 minutes left. All things considered, I think the plan has been ok win or lose.
The problem is they’re losing and all those tertiary players are still beating their better defenders. I understand the game plan, but it hasn’t worked.
The defense gave them a chance to win on the road vs a team that’s a good bet to rep the NFC in the playoffs. I think he did a solid job today al things considered.
Their D put them in a hole early on. That's a recipe for a loss. Now, the offense didn't do them any favors, but still the point remains. Going down by two scores early changed that entire 1st half and forcing adjustments you typically would not want to make.
I don't think Wilks did an awful job, but he certainly did not do a good job. He made some choices and got burned hard by Brees. It happens.
That Carolina D looked better against the Saints in NO than virtually any team I have ever seen play them there.
Try again.
Also Rivera is a defensive coach.
It's funny everyone is down on the Patriots assistants because of Belichick but doesn't say the same for Wilks
He is the least experienced of the bunch.
How many coaches has Gettleman hired in his career?
How many has Mara? How did that work out?
You’re going to base his resume on one fucking half of play?!
Exactly! If he is smart, then he will delegate it out by hiring a DC and OC.
The thing is though, when push cones to shove I think Mara is going to have a tough time pulling the trigger on a coach with no HC experience and 1 year at DC.
I just don't see it, even if DG is on board, Mara won't be imv.
And I don't know exactly how much of this you can place directly on Wilks.
It just seems like a hasty assessment.
Because the OP wants Shurmur and loves starting threads.
Wilks isn't McAdoo. And coaches have to start somewhere. It is about finding the right guy, letting him set up his staff and team, then live by his philosophy. There will be failures and that goes with the job. But if you are looking to get a guy on his ascendancy for the long haul, then you grab him and sit back.
If you bring in a first-time HC like Wilks, it’s because you believe in the qualities he brings as a leader. He happens to be known around the league as a no nonsense disciplinarian which is exactly what this team needs right now.
There’s also no reason he can’t, when he builds his staff, bring in a veteran coordinator with HC experience that he can lean on or bounce ideas off of. Someone in the mold of a Kubiak or Norv Turner.