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Cam Newton Concussion?

smshmth8690 : 1/8/2018 12:15 am
So it begins.
Panthers may have violated concussion protocol. - ( New Window )
The claim is he got a spike in his eye  
montanagiant : 1/8/2018 12:20 am : link
Where I doubt that happened is he wears a plexi-shield over his eyes and why would he fall down by the sideline over his eye being poked
Just throw QBs  
old man : 1/8/2018 12:21 am : link
Back out there!
Protocol! We don't need no stinkin' PROTOCOL!
Cam Newton is such a drama queen  
chiro56 : 1/8/2018 12:28 am : link
It's hard to tell what was injured. Great physical gifts , but vast emotional swings.
Yeah he should've been looked at, at least  
BlackLight : 1/8/2018 12:38 am : link
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RE: Yeah he should've been looked at, at least  
chopperhatch : 1/8/2018 12:54 am : link
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He did go into the tent.
RE: RE: Yeah he should've been looked at, at least  
BlackLight : 1/8/2018 1:57 am : link
In comment 13777548 chopperhatch said:
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He did go into the tent.


Did he? I must've missed it. From what I remember, he sort of crumpled as he was trying to get off the field. Trainers looked at him, then got him up and walked off, then left him alone on the sidelines. Then he went back in shortly thereafter.
RE: RE: RE: Yeah he should've been looked at, at least  
chopperhatch : 1/8/2018 2:56 am : link
In comment 13777563 BlackLight said:
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He did go into the tent.



Did he? I must've missed it. From what I remember, he sort of crumpled as he was trying to get off the field. Trainers looked at him, then got him up and walked off, then left him alone on the sidelines. Then he went back in shortly thereafter.


I remember seeing him go in, but it didnt seem like he was examined fully fir a concussiin. It was probably more him telling the people inside that he got hit in the eye.
They said they told him to go down to the ground and not walk  
ZogZerg : 1/8/2018 6:59 am : link
off the field so the backup QB could get ready to go in. I don't think he was concussed, although that was a great hit!
Who cares?  
EricJ : 1/8/2018 7:32 am : link
I am being serious...
and not to sound like an old school football guy who played through everything.... but yeah some of us (for no money) took/gave hits like that all of the time.

I know it is a different era and all of that but there are known risks when you play this game and some people just feel there should be none. You cannot have the game of football without the danger, injuries and concussions.

Can you imagine the shit storm coming out of Carolina if the officials pulled Cam from the game for precautionary reasons and they lost? You know (whether true or not) all of the talk would have been how the game was stolen from them due to a concussion protocol rule and Cam did not even have a concussion.
I agree with Chris Simmsí take  
TommytheElephant : 1/8/2018 7:48 am : link
No more blue tent nonsense

Take them into the locker room for complete review
RE: They said they told him to go down to the ground and not walk  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 1/8/2018 7:54 am : link
In comment 13777603 ZogZerg said:
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off the field so the backup QB could get ready to go in. I don't think he was concussed, although that was a great hit!


They had this discussion this morning on Golic and Wingo. All (Golic Junior was also there) agreed that he probably went down as the sidelines signaled him to so the backup qb could warm up, and that he went into the tent. However, it was pointed out that after the incident with Houston's Tom Savage earlier this season, there was a new rule put into place that if enforced would have mandated Newton to have the concussion protocol in the locker room after he wobbled and went to the ground.

The dilemma seemed to be what good is a rule if you don't enforce it even if you know he went down only to give his backup warmup time.
RE: Who cares?  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/8/2018 8:18 am : link
In comment 13777616 EricJ said:
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I am being serious...
and not to sound like an old school football guy who played through everything.... but yeah some of us (for no money) took/gave hits like that all of the time.

I know it is a different era and all of that but there are known risks when you play this game and some people just feel there should be none. You cannot have the game of football without the danger, injuries and concussions.

Can you imagine the shit storm coming out of Carolina if the officials pulled Cam from the game for precautionary reasons and they lost? You know (whether true or not) all of the talk would have been how the game was stolen from them due to a concussion protocol rule and Cam did not even have a concussion.


Jesus. Are these guys playing in the Roman Colisium for your pleasure?
They said today..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2018 8:26 am : link
that the real reason he was being checked in the tent was for the eye issue. He's claiming that when he was hit, the visor hit his eyelid.

But the news also reported that not checking him for a concussion may have violated the protocol.
My issue is itís one or the other  
Shecky : 1/8/2018 8:30 am : link
If they are claiming he wasnít concussed and was told to go down to let the backup warmup - weíll i have a problem with that free timeout they took. If he was concussed,which I donít believe he was, well you HAVE to go through protocol - whether itís your star in a close playoff game or not. Thatís why they have a protocol.

So in either ccpscenario, the Lanthers are admitting one way or another they thumbed their noses at the NFL rules. I like the idea of mandatory checkup for player safety. And agree it must be enforced if itís a rule. To avoid teams taking an extra ďfeeĒtimeout to let their backup warmup.
They also..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2018 8:32 am : link
showed a replay where a foot hits his face while he's on the turf, but it would've been tough to spike him in the eye with the visor.

But on the sideline shots, he was blinking the eye and had ice on his face.
RE: RE: Who cares?  
EricJ : 1/8/2018 8:32 am : link
In comment 13777646 McNally's_Nuts said:
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I am being serious...
and not to sound like an old school football guy who played through everything.... but yeah some of us (for no money) took/gave hits like that all of the time.

I know it is a different era and all of that but there are known risks when you play this game and some people just feel there should be none. You cannot have the game of football without the danger, injuries and concussions.

Can you imagine the shit storm coming out of Carolina if the officials pulled Cam from the game for precautionary reasons and they lost? You know (whether true or not) all of the talk would have been how the game was stolen from them due to a concussion protocol rule and Cam did not even have a concussion.



Jesus. Are these guys playing in the Roman Colisium for your pleasure?


Right... take us all the way to the Colisium where they were fighting to the death. No, I am just talking about taking us back 20 years.

The point is that we are either going to have professional football or we aren't. If you are going to play the game, there will be concussions. If you try to eliminate concussions, then you basically no longer have the game of football as we know it.

Maybe there is some type of helmet technology that has yet to be invented which can preserve the essence of the game while curtailing concussions.
This is just a rough situation  
LatHarv83 : 1/8/2018 8:34 am : link
People can knock the panthers (or even one guy on this thread somehow turned this into knocking Cam lol, not surprised tho) but people just arenít being real if they canít come to grips with the fact that this is just a terrible situation for everyone involved. Your season is on the line. The team feels pressure to play him. The player has a desire to play. I donít know that any team in the whole league is going to handle this any differently. They just had the misfortune of having this happen at the worst possible time and had their handling of it play out in front of the nation. It is tough enough to pull Cam there in week 5, but in the playoffs on the final drive? Iím all for player safety but I donít want to be in the panthers situation there and neither do any of you. Itís an impossible spot
RE: The claim is he got a spike in his eye  
Section331 : 1/8/2018 9:35 am : link
In comment 13777534 montanagiant said:
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Where I doubt that happened is he wears a plexi-shield over his eyes and why would he fall down by the sideline over his eye being poked


The visor got displaced when he was sacked and went into his eye. The announcers talked about it, I'm not sure why this is even a question.
Did everyone watch the game with the sound off?  
Section331 : 1/8/2018 9:37 am : link
The went into concussion protocol as a precaution, the injury was the visor getting displaced and hitting his eye. I think we would all agree that would hurt like hell.

But carry on about how Cam was being a drama queen.
RE: Who cares?  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13777616 EricJ said:
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I am being serious...
and not to sound like an old school football guy who played through everything.... but yeah some of us (for no money) took/gave hits like that all of the time.

I know it is a different era and all of that but there are known risks when you play this game and some people just feel there should be none. You cannot have the game of football without the danger, injuries and concussions.

Can you imagine the shit storm coming out of Carolina if the officials pulled Cam from the game for precautionary reasons and they lost? You know (whether true or not) all of the talk would have been how the game was stolen from them due to a concussion protocol rule and Cam did not even have a concussion.


Plenty of people care, that's why the rule is in place. The NFL cares so they aren't sued again. Tons of people care...

I really don't know what's hard to get about this - there is a rule in place and the Panthers have already done this before with Cam.
RE: The claim is he got a spike in his eye  
Cam in MO : 1/8/2018 9:43 am : link
In comment 13777534 montanagiant said:
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Where I doubt that happened is he wears a plexi-shield over his eyes and why would he fall down by the sideline over his eye being poked


Because he is a queen.
Section..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2018 9:44 am : link
the tent is there for any sideline treatment, not just for the concussion.

They actually didn't conduct any concussion tests, which is what the complaints are about this AM.

They checked him for an eye injury after the visor scraped his eyelid.
I swear  
djm : 1/8/2018 11:16 am : link
I said out loud that Rivera's facial expression indicated that he knew the panthers were going to get taken to task for the newton "protocol." He sort of smirks in "oh shit were fucked" kind of way.

This entire concusison and protocol ordeal have been a disaster  
Knineteen : 1/8/2018 1:11 pm : link
Sending players to the locker room is going to prevent more players from agreeing to be evaluated.

Sticking them in a tent isn't going to help either.

Diagnosing a concussion is subjective at best. It's not like you can take an XRay and diagnose immediately.
RE: This entire concusison and protocol ordeal have been a disaster  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13778303 Knineteen said:
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Sending players to the locker room is going to prevent more players from agreeing to be evaluated.

Sticking them in a tent isn't going to help either.

Diagnosing a concussion is subjective at best. It's not like you can take an XRay and diagnose immediately.


Is player cooperation voluntary? I was under the impression its up to the non-affiliated doctor to make a call on whether to enter a player in concussion protocol.
Cam's eyes  
Giantslifer : 1/8/2018 2:09 pm : link
Cam said his eyes hurt. damn right- he was hit so hard his eyes nearly fell out of his head
RE: RE: The claim is he got a spike in his eye  
montanagiant : 1/8/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13777766 Section331 said:
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Where I doubt that happened is he wears a plexi-shield over his eyes and why would he fall down by the sideline over his eye being poked



The visor got displaced when he was sacked and went into his eye. The announcers talked about it, I'm not sure why this is even a question.

Because the Panthers themselves claimed he cleared Concussion Protocol
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Carolina Panthers‏Verified account
@Panthers

Cam Newton has been evaluated for a concussion and cleared.

4:23 PM - 7 Jan 2018

Which with the new Concussion Protocol rules he has to be taken to the locker room, That's why it's being questioned.
And once again why the wobbliness and the fall to the ground before reaching the sidelines if it's his eye is why it's being questioned
RE: RE: RE: The claim is he got a spike in his eye  
YAJ2112 : 1/8/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13778509 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13777534 montanagiant said:


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Where I doubt that happened is he wears a plexi-shield over his eyes and why would he fall down by the sideline over his eye being poked



The visor got displaced when he was sacked and went into his eye. The announcers talked about it, I'm not sure why this is even a question.


Because the Panthers themselves claimed he cleared Concussion Protocol


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Carolina PanthersĢVerified account
@Panthers

Cam Newton has been evaluated for a concussion and cleared.

4:23 PM - 7 Jan 2018


Which with the new Concussion Protocol rules he has to be taken to the locker room, That's why it's being questioned.
And once again why the wobbliness and the fall to the ground before reaching the sidelines if it's his eye is why it's being questioned


He wasn't wobbling on his way to the sideline, the coaches told him to go down so that Anderson could have more time to warm up and it would buy time to get Cam checked out and back in the game.
The NFL talks a big game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/8/2018 4:00 pm : link
about player safety, but they really don't give a damn.
The timeline..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2018 4:09 pm : link
here is off:

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Carolina Panthers‏Verified account
@Panthers

Cam Newton has been evaluated for a concussion and cleared.

4:23 PM - 7 Jan 2018


That tweet came before kickoff if the date and time are correct
RE: RE: Who cares?  
Sgrcts : 1/8/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13777774 UConn4523 said:
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I am being serious...
and not to sound like an old school football guy who played through everything.... but yeah some of us (for no money) took/gave hits like that all of the time.

I know it is a different era and all of that but there are known risks when you play this game and some people just feel there should be none. You cannot have the game of football without the danger, injuries and concussions.

Can you imagine the shit storm coming out of Carolina if the officials pulled Cam from the game for precautionary reasons and they lost? You know (whether true or not) all of the talk would have been how the game was stolen from them due to a concussion protocol rule and Cam did not even have a concussion.



Plenty of people care, that's why the rule is in place. The NFL cares so they aren't sued again. Tons of people care...

I really don't know what's hard to get about this - there is a rule in place and the Panthers have already done this before with Cam.


I for one watched maybe 15 minutes of football all year, and am unsure if I'll even watch the Super Bowl over this issue. I only have daughters, but if I had sons, I would not even pretend to entertain them playing football. I know I'm not alone about this, and if Football went back 20 years as a "fix" for this issue, then I would permanently never watch a game again, full stop.

I do not care if players have knowledge of the dangers and choose to play anyway, I can't in good conscience watch living beings destroy their lives for my amusement.
RE: RE: RE: Who cares?  
EricJ : 1/8/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13778606 Sgrcts said:
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I do not care if players have knowledge of the dangers and choose to play anyway, I can't in good conscience watch living beings destroy their lives for my amusement.


That is fine. Everyone can make their own choices in life... to watch or not watch. To play and risk injury or not. Nobody is wrong for making whatever choice they decide to make because it is THEIR life and too bad if we/you dont like it. For me, I just prefer the more violent game of football. That is what I grew up playing. Who knows, maybe I will begin showing the effects of that.

In other news...
While the NFL is concerned with concussions and Bettman tried to take violence out of hockey to attract more fans (and failed).... along came a style of fighting that you may have heard about (MMA/UFC). It grew quickly and has worldwide appeal. Guys are essentially knocking each other out in almost every fight. People are glued to the TV to watch this. Even the girls are doing it!
RE: The timeline..  
montanagiant : 1/8/2018 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13778595 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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here is off:



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Carolina Panthers‏Verified account
@Panthers

Cam Newton has been evaluated for a concussion and cleared.

4:23 PM - 7 Jan 2018



That tweet came before kickoff if the date and time are correct

That's my timezone, Central. It's the verified Panthers Twitter account
I'm only pointing out...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2018 7:49 pm : link
that he would have had a concussion in the 4th quarter - probably around 7PM.

Plus, the local news said he wasn't treated for a concussion, but an eye injury.
RE: I'm only pointing out...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13778955 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Plus, the local news said he wasn't treated for a concussion, but an eye injury.


I had heard eye injury too, but as far as I know, Cam Newton wears a visor on his helmet.
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