...60 players in all were taken:
25 Quarterbacks (41.7%)
10 Defensive Ends(16.7%)
9 Offensive Tackles (15.0%)
5 Wide Receivers (8.3%)
4 Defensive Tackles (6.7%)
4 Linebackers (6.7%)
3 Running Backs (5.0%)
Clearly, each new draft brings its own constellation of Top 3 perceived values and respective team needs. And the past is not necessarily prologue when it comes to player selections.
But given:
(1) The Giants need of finding Eli Manning's replacement;
(2) The presence of Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield et. al. in the 2018 Draft; and,
(3) That QB's have been selected with the Top 3 picks over 40% of the time...
...I'm sure as hell ain't betting against the Giants coming away with a QB at #2.
If you want to bring a stat to the table- lookup those 25 teams and assess who their starter was and where they were in their career. I'm not disagreeing the giants will likely go QB, but that stat in itself means nothing to me when comparing our current situation. If DG and Eli want him at the helm for 3+ years, QB isn't the way to go unless its a cant miss prospect.
How would you like it if the Giants passed on QB, only to wind up 3 years down the line with a mediocre QB situation, while Rosen/Darnold are lighting it up like Goff/Wentz?
How would you like it if the Giants passed on QB, only to wind up 3 years down the line with a mediocre QB situation, while Rosen/Darnold are lighting it up like Goff/Wentz?
Depends. How do the next 2-3 years go with Eli and/or Webb + the OTHER draft picks?
Where is that guy now?
I don't recall Webb being projected as a #1 by anybody.
Simply put, more top-shelf NFL QB's are drafted in the first round than any other position.
Yeah, maybe the Giants will pick a Joe Montana or Tom Brady in later rounds.
Giant draft history says their Simms, Manning and Collins come from first round, top-10 picks. Historically, later rounds get the Giants the glory of Danny Kannell and Kent Graham.
There are busts. There is Dave Brown.
Safe money for the Giants future at QB rests in a #2 QB pick, period.
2005 #2 Miami Dolphins; Ronnie Brown
2006 #2 New Orleans Saints; Reggie Bush
2012 #3 Cleveland Browns; Trent Richardson
...at #2 are remote.
Trading back a few slots, I think the odds are a lot better!
...1998 - 2017.
Clearly, there are some clunkers here. There are also several high performing ones including HOF or near-HOF QBs:
Bortles, Blake
Bradford, Sam
Carr, David
Couch, Tim
Goff, Jared
Griffin III, Robert
Harrington, Joey
Leaf, Ryan
Luck, Andrew
Manning, Eli*
Manning, Peyton
Mariota, Marcus
McNabb, Donovan
Newton, Cam
Palmer, Carson
Russell, JaMarcus
Ryan, Matt
Smith, Akili
Smith, Alex
Stafford, Matthew
Trubisky, Mitch
Vick, Michael
Wentz, Carson
Winston, Jameis
Young, Vince
Everything in football is supportive and one bad piece can ruin a team. We can draft Dan Marino right (the 83 verison) and we would not win with BS collection of Oline, RB's and WR's (outside of OBJ) and our weak ass deep middle on defense (lb's and s's)....
I count Goff, Griffin III, Luck, both Mannings, McNabb, Cam Newton, Palmer, Ryan, Stafford, Vick, Wentz, Winston as those I think are worth a top-3.
You can't tell me there's any way to be absolutely 100% sure about a prospect, such that it justifies giving up multiple draft picks, rather than drafting who we see right now. You also can't tell me Eli is good to go for 3 more years.
You can't tell me there's any way to be absolutely 100% sure about a prospect, such that it justifies giving up multiple draft picks, rather than drafting who we see right now. You also can't tell me Eli is good to go for 3 more years.
Actually it's rather easy to see. The Giants (or any team in the same position) do their homework and determine that none of these QBs are worth a top 5 pick. Not too far fetched.
If there's a guy in 2021 who absolutely, no doubt is IT -- head and shoulders above Rosen/Darnold/etc. and can't miss -- probably everyone else will see that too. What do you have to give up to get to the #1 spot from, say, #16 (perfectly average) to go get him? Oh, and you could still be wrong.
Maybe I should put it his way: As a Giants FAN, do you trust the FO to really know what it's doing, to NOT take a QB now and instead sell the farm later?
I could not have lived with this valuable info.
as for you lugnut, I wasn't being "snarky". A GM and personnel staff job is to assign value. And it's very possible that none of these QBs aren't deemed worthy of a top 5 pick. There are many people voicing that opinion. Take the best player available. The Giants have many needs to fill.
Reaching for need is a great way to find long term ineptitude. And if you don't trust mngmt 3 years from now to make the right call, why do you trust them now?
No DB's- I was surprised by this, but there was none taken. Jalen Ramsey and PP both went 5th though. I guess means Fitzpatrick isn't a realistic pick.
Lastly, not many LB's and I would bet none of them are off-ball 4-3 LB's so Roquan Smith isn't realistic at #2 either.
Not saying it's impossible, but there is no precedent for teams taking G, DB, or LB in the Top 3 which kind of rules out those players.