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NFT: Knicks closing in on deal with trey burke

nygiants16 : 1/8/2018 4:41 pm
According stand charnia Knicks are in serious talks with burke and he will be held out of g league showcase...
what a fortunate day for us all  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2018 4:42 pm : link
If it meant Lance Thomas was being shot into the moon, though, I'd be all for it! Alas.....
Good, we could use someone else who can score.  
Heisenberg : 1/8/2018 4:42 pm : link
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RE: what a fortunate day for us all  
nygiants16 : 1/8/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13778651 Greg from LI said:
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If it meant Lance Thomas was being shot into the moon, though, I'd be all for it! Alas.....


He has actually played quite well for the g league team, he is no savior but sessions is just taking up space
Would be great  
Pep22 : 1/8/2018 4:46 pm : link
to have a team option for next year...as opposed to a player option for Ron Freakin Baker
Uh huh  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2018 4:46 pm : link
Means nothing. Jimmer Fredette tore up the D League with very similar stats to Burke's. Still wasn't an NBA player.
I think he has a good chance to be an offensive weapon off the bench  
Heisenberg : 1/8/2018 4:52 pm : link
He's a better athlete than Jimmer for sure.
But still well below average NBA athleticism  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2018 4:54 pm : link
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strike that  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2018 4:55 pm : link
Maybe not "well below average", that goes to far. Average at best is more accurate.
I hate comments like that  
Pep22 : 1/8/2018 4:56 pm : link
Yes, you are correct. There are no guarantees. But, citing one player that did well in the D League that didn't do the same in the NBA is equally meaningless.

Instead, you would be better off acknowledging that he seems to have improved in a couple of key areas that failed him w the Jazz.

1) he has improved his strength greatly (no longer the frail guy we saw at Michigan)

2) he no longer seems to have a lottery pick primadonna attitude

3) I like his ability to beat people off the dribble, something that only THJ on this team currently has
improved based on what? Dominating the G League?  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2018 4:58 pm : link
Again, this is the exact same story people were telling about Fredette two years ago. I'll believe it when he shows something in the NBA.
Yeah, Jimmer is well below average athlete  
Heisenberg : 1/8/2018 4:59 pm : link
Burke is average and I think he's a pretty skilled offensive player. A bench guy.

For him to stick long term he'll need to play defense too.

Clearly the Knicks didn't want him to get to the showcase and be a FA. I think, given how he's played and their need at G, that's a good call. Certainly they have some idea of what they're doing with the guy as they've had him all year.

Not a savior, but I think he can be a second unit guy and against some teams I can see him playing with Frank (if the 2 guard matchup is a good one for Frank).

We'll see. At any rate, can't be less of a contributor than Sessions.
Jimmer's biggest problem  
Pep22 : 1/8/2018 5:00 pm : link
is his insistence on playing like he's the go-to guy

if he were to do some grunt work and resign himself to being a catch/shoot 3 bomb specialist, he'd have a place in the league

he's actually not a bad athlete at all, but stubbornness was the biggest thing that killed his career
Called it.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/8/2018 5:02 pm : link
months ago.

Welp, there goes any chances of the Knicks picking in the top 10. Trey Burke, Michigan legend paired alongside with fellow Michigan Man Tim Hardaway.. championship or bust.
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 1/8/2018 5:04 pm : link
like at least 5 more games without THjr, sounds like best case 1/19 in Utah.
RE: improved based on what? Dominating the G League?  
Pep22 : 1/8/2018 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13778685 Greg from LI said:
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Again, this is the exact same story people were telling about Fredette two years ago. I'll believe it when he shows something in the NBA.


>> "Improved" based on improving his strength, handle, work rate. I've seen him several times. I am not telling you he's John Wall, but he is far better offensively than any lead guard on the current roster.
RE: Looks  
Heisenberg : 1/8/2018 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13778700 DanMetroMan said:
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like at least 5 more games without THjr, sounds like best case 1/19 in Utah.

Definitely a factor. Need guys who can fill it up.
I saw "Knicks closing in on a deal for"  
djm : 1/8/2018 5:07 pm : link
And got excited.
If lance thomas was shot into the moon  
djm : 1/8/2018 5:08 pm : link
He'd still find a way to take a long two point shot. From the moon. To earth.
predicting TB will fail based only on Jimmer  
Pep22 : 1/8/2018 5:17 pm : link
is like predicting a Wisconsin RB will fail bc of Ron Dayne...dig a little deeper, don't just come up with one situation and decide it will determine all future outcomes
Begley says  
nygiants16 : 1/8/2018 5:46 pm : link
Knicks have trades available to create a roster spot, but if no deal will release sessions
I wonder who the deals involved  
adamg : 1/8/2018 5:57 pm : link
KOQ? Lee?
RE: I wonder who the deals involved  
nygiants16 : 1/8/2018 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13778778 adamg said:
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KOQ? Lee?


Have to assume it is a center
RE: If lance thomas was shot into the moon  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2018 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13778708 djm said:
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He'd still find a way to take a long two point shot. From the moon. To earth.


He'd brick that too

Best backcourt in the NBA?  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/8/2018 7:33 pm : link
Need more scoring especially from  
Mendenhall : 1/8/2018 9:23 pm : link
the PG position. I know everyone is enamored with Nitklina but he shows nothing on the offensive end and his on the ball defense is below average.
RE: Need more scoring especially from  
djm : 1/8/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13779108 Mendenhall said:
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the PG position. I know everyone is enamored with Nitklina but he shows nothing on the offensive end and his on the ball defense is below average.


Knicks are still woefully thin and bad at the pg position. Even if you told me that frank will end up a legit starting pg the Knicks still need to add a lot more talent to the guard position. Without hardaway the Knicks have to boast the crappiest backcourt in the NBA and by a wide margin. Maybe one day the Knicks will have a backcourt...god forbid.
RE: Need more scoring especially from  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2018 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13779108 Mendenhall said:
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his on the ball defense is below average.




I'd love to see what above average on-ball defense looks like.  
bceagle05 : 1/8/2018 9:50 pm : link
I'm concerned about Frank's offense too, but his defense is suffocating. Just has to cut back on fouls, which is common for rookies earning their stripes with shitty, crooked NBA refs.
RE: Best backcourt in the NBA?  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2018 12:37 am : link
In comment 13778907 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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The NBA G league, sure
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