NFT: SpaceX malfunction

Everything I've read pointed to an issue with the satellite itself.

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U.S. Spy Satellite Believed Lost After SpaceX Mission Fails - ( New Window )

And the mission was carrying classified information so I’m not sure how or if that will impede the release of further information. Not necessarily SpaceX’s fault, but it doesn’t look great for them. I guess when you strap something to a freakin rocket you can’t always expect things to go perfectly.

It could have been an issue with the satellite itself, nothing to do with spacex. Since the mission was classified, we may never know.

Read this article, so either spacex is lying, or the issue was with with Northrop's payload adaptor.
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In comment 13779622 BH28 said:

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It could have been an issue with the satellite itself, nothing to do with spacex. Since the mission was classified, we may never know. Read this article, so either spacex is lying, or the issue was with with Northrop's payload adaptor. Link - ( New Window )

good article, much better than the WSJ one. I have no reason to doubt SpaceX if they say the rocket performed it’s duties as intended. Interestingly, I could see this going in two different ways. Either SpaceX is at fault and ULA gets a major competitive victory, or SpaceX proves that not only have they got this rocket launching thing down but verifiably do it better, in total, than the government at a fraction of the cost.

I’m rooting for Musk. I don’t give a damn about colonizing Mars, but I think he’s got some really good ideas in the battery/solar arena.

Northrop is obviously not the government, but either way SpaceX’s in house hardware/software appear to be superior

And Strategic Command is blowing smoke for the Russians benefit.

or those pesky Aliens.

mark my words.

In comment 13779871 ArcadeSlumlord said:

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mark my words.

well they don’t have a lot of competition domestically and they are doing this at a greatly reduced cost so unless they have multiple catastrophic mishaps, I don’t see it.

Northrup says they can't comment.

Space Track reports a new object in orbit, but NORAD says there are no new objects to track.

An interesting situation, to say the least.

a really funny diagram lifeline of his failures that go back to 90's when Netscape would not hire him. I do not care what he does as long as it does not have US taxpayer dollars attached to it. He should rename SpaceX to failure to launch.

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. I do not care what he does as long as it does not have US taxpayer dollars attached to it

what an odd thing to say
-- literally every space company in US gets taxpayer money via government contracts and funding ..
since the primary customer is US government and US military

is there some rule that certain companies should not be allowed to get taxpayer money ? and can you give me an example of a company that doesn't get taxpayer money in one form or another ?

In comment 13780708 giantfan2000 said:

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Quote: . I do not care what he does as long as it does not have US taxpayer dollars attached to it what an odd thing to say -- literally every space company in US gets taxpayer money via government contracts and funding .. since the primary customer is US government and US military is there some rule that certain companies should not be allowed to get taxpayer money ? and can you give me an example of a company that doesn't get taxpayer money in one form or another ?

not odd, he is fuck using corporate welfare. And he is not the only one.

In comment 13780729 mdc1 said:

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In comment 13780708 giantfan2000 said: Quote: Quote: . I do not care what he does as long as it does not have US taxpayer dollars attached to it what an odd thing to say -- literally every space company in US gets taxpayer money via government contracts and funding .. since the primary customer is US government and US military is there some rule that certain companies should not be allowed to get taxpayer money ? and can you give me an example of a company that doesn't get taxpayer money in one form or another ? not odd, he is fuck using corporate welfare. And he is not the only one.

Bullshit.

SpaceX is providing launch services at a fraction of the rate of other launch providers. They have a very successful commercial launch manifest. They are providing cargo and crew deliveries to the ISS at a significant discount compared to other providers.

SpaceX is saving the taxpayers money, not the other way around.

Particularly when it's given away for free. But when this "corporate welfare" comes in the form of a government contract for services rendered to a guy who's politics he doesn't care for - mdc1 will never stand for that commie shit.

To summarize:

- A $1 trillion tax cut given to wealthy companies already drowning is cash reserves = stable geniousity

- Affordable Care Act = socialism

- A multi billion dollar wall along our southern border = sound immigration policy

- Public broadcasting = Fake news. Even Sesame Street.

We can continue paying the Russians $20 million or more to launch our satellites and send our scientists up to the ISS.

Launching a payload from the US, you have the following options:
- Delta II (effectively retired), Delta IV (impending retirement), and heinously expensive.
- Atlas V... which requires Russian engines.
- Antares... limited capability, and requires Russian engines.
- SLS... which has limited purpose, and has cost over $18 billion so far without a single launch.
- SpaceX, which was developed primarily with private funds, and whose costs for equivalent service are significantly lower than the competition.

I don't see the corporate welfare here. NASA has said that SpaceX developed the Falcon 9 at less than 20% of what NASA could have developed the rocket for using traditional contracts.

And it's not just NASA that will save money. The USAF will be launching the next gen GPS III satellites on the Falcon in the coming years.

since virtually every company in that field is heavily subsidized by the USG. Blue Origins might be the lone exception, but I'm not sure they've even conducted unmanned space station cargo missions yet.

Tesla on the other hand is probably one of the worst examples of corporate welfare, especially since they primarily make subsidized luxury cars for the rich (Model S and X). Even the few Model 3s built to-date are primarily for the wealthy or at least upper middle class costing in the high-30s even after the $7500 credit and being more of a "2nd car" for families due to the limited range.

In comment 13780987 Modus Operandi said:

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Particularly when it's given away for free. But when this "corporate welfare" comes in the form of a government contract for services rendered to a guy who's politics he doesn't care for - mdc1 will never stand for that commie shit. To summarize: - A $1 trillion tax cut given to wealthy companies already drowning is cash reserves = stable geniousity - Affordable Care Act = socialism - A multi billion dollar wall along our southern border = sound immigration policy - Public broadcasting = Fake news. Even Sesame Street.

What part of no political postings do you not understand? Rules don't apply to your agenda?

interesting that Space X is pushing back hard that something happen with their rocket
the fact that SpaceX haven't delayed their current launch schedule suggests that they are confident nothing happened on their end

but this quote

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A November article in Wired revealed the payload adapter for this rocket was constructed by Northrop Grumman too. According to the LA Times a spokesperson for Grumman declined to provide an explanation and said, “This is a classified mission. We cannot comment on classified missions.”

SpaceX claims malfunctioning rocket worked just as it was supposed to - ( New Window )

In comment 13781053 section125 said:

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In comment 13780987 Modus Operandi said: Quote: Particularly when it's given away for free. But when this "corporate welfare" comes in the form of a government contract for services rendered to a guy who's politics he doesn't care for - mdc1 will never stand for that commie shit. To summarize: - A $1 trillion tax cut given to wealthy companies already drowning is cash reserves = stable geniousity - Affordable Care Act = socialism - A multi billion dollar wall along our southern border = sound immigration policy - Public broadcasting = Fake news. Even Sesame Street. What part of no political postings do you not understand? Rules don't apply to your agenda?

I'm responding to a guy who pollutes abd politicizes every thread he participates in, and yet remains unscathed during the crackdowndown by the powers that be.