Let's put it this way, (assuming we hire Wilks, who we know DG is probably pushing for) this will be the first time in ages since a new GM was brought in and was able to hire his own coach without it being a promotion from withiin.
that in and of itself is a big deal IMO
Agreed!
RE: Choosing between these candidates is not fun Â
There's no reason to have strong confidence that any of these guys can succeed based on what info we have. All of them have some flaws or big questions to answer.
Yep. There are no great candidates in this bunch. Kind of an underwhelming bunch. The lack of experience in these candidates in the wake of McAddo doesn't inspire alot of confidence, either.
RE: Tisch's presence at this interview is preparedness Â
and understanding the schedule Wilks has lined up.
Maybe he doesnt interview well and the Giants pass. If he hits it out of the park, the Giants don't want the other half of ownership to have to try to play catch up in getting in front of this guy as he heads to the other vacancies across the league and potentially miss out.
+1.
No second or phone interviews. JM/DG: " Think he's got 'it'?"
ST:"Yes".
JM: CALL HIM.
If a No by either ..let the internal battle begin!
situation being similar to the liking of Wilks. Huge difference is that Mac was pretty much de facto because he was the incumbent as the OC, and pretty much the orgs choice to succeed Coughlin. Din't Coughlin also sign off on Mac's hire?
I’m going to assume drafting a QB at #2 is out. Because Wilks brings NOTHING to the table on the offensive side of the ball.
These young QBs really need to guidance and direction that the Pedersons, McVays, Shanahans provide. Guys at the top making decisions. It’s clearly the best environment to nurture your future QB.
To either not draft a QB, or draft one without a HC with offensive expertise, has the potential to be a major setback...
Thank God Tom Brady didn't end up with a defensive coach, otherwise he would have ended up being a waste. Same with Roethlisberger and Rivers. Those defensive coaches don't know what to do with a young QB.
My point is a little deeper. In your reference to Bill Belichick, BB had been a HC in Cleveland. So he had been fully engaged in the offensive side of the ball. There is little doubt he had a command on both sides of the ball.
There is nothing in Wilks' resume suggesting anything but a pure defensive mindset. Unless you consider being head coach at Savannah State material...so that's the point.
RE: RE: RE: The whole interview process has been a Sham Â
DG has an axe to pick after his firing by Carolina. You don't think he wants to prove, that he not only can get he get a team to a Super Bowl, but to win it?
He's already proven that several times.
I don't think you really know much about the situation with Carolina. He doesn't have an axe to pick - he stood his ground against Richardson and was fired. This is a guy makes decisions on data-based and scouting-based criteria. He doesn't believe much in uneducated guessing.
When he selects a player or a coach, you can bet he's done his homework on the positives and negatives and assessed their risks, without an emotional bias.
People who think Gettleman is going to dictate things have really not followed his career at all. Imn each of his stops, he has mentored people and gave them decision-making authority to help them further themselves.
that in and of itself is a big deal IMO
Agreed!
Yep. There are no great candidates in this bunch. Kind of an underwhelming bunch. The lack of experience in these candidates in the wake of McAddo doesn't inspire alot of confidence, either.
Maybe he doesnt interview well and the Giants pass. If he hits it out of the park, the Giants don't want the other half of ownership to have to try to play catch up in getting in front of this guy as he heads to the other vacancies across the league and potentially miss out.
+1.
No second or phone interviews. JM/DG: " Think he's got 'it'?"
ST:"Yes".
JM: CALL HIM.
If a No by either ..let the internal battle begin!
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I’m going to assume drafting a QB at #2 is out. Because Wilks brings NOTHING to the table on the offensive side of the ball.
These young QBs really need to guidance and direction that the Pedersons, McVays, Shanahans provide. Guys at the top making decisions. It’s clearly the best environment to nurture your future QB.
To either not draft a QB, or draft one without a HC with offensive expertise, has the potential to be a major setback...
Thank God Tom Brady didn't end up with a defensive coach, otherwise he would have ended up being a waste. Same with Roethlisberger and Rivers. Those defensive coaches don't know what to do with a young QB.
My point is a little deeper. In your reference to Bill Belichick, BB had been a HC in Cleveland. So he had been fully engaged in the offensive side of the ball. There is little doubt he had a command on both sides of the ball.
There is nothing in Wilks' resume suggesting anything but a pure defensive mindset. Unless you consider being head coach at Savannah State material...so that's the point.
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It happened 2 years ago when McAdoo was the guy. This year Wilks is the guy and it has been since DG got hired.
You have successfully made me root for Wilks to get hired. And if/when he succeeds, you'll probably act as if you were in favor of the hire all along.
You have made me successfully want to slit my throat
What's stopping you? Errrr....I mean, noooooo donnnnnn't we love youuuuuuu.
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DG has an axe to pick after his firing by Carolina. You don't think he wants to prove, that he not only can get he get a team to a Super Bowl, but to win it?
He's already proven that several times.
I don't think you really know much about the situation with Carolina. He doesn't have an axe to pick - he stood his ground against Richardson and was fired. This is a guy makes decisions on data-based and scouting-based criteria. He doesn't believe much in uneducated guessing.
When he selects a player or a coach, you can bet he's done his homework on the positives and negatives and assessed their risks, without an emotional bias.
People who think Gettleman is going to dictate things have really not followed his career at all. Imn each of his stops, he has mentored people and gave them decision-making authority to help them further themselves.