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PFF Grades 1st round picks - Engram 2nd worst

pjcas18 : 1/9/2018 12:39 pm
I don't get this, but I don't subscribe to PFF anymore.

I thought Engram had a really good year. Too many drops, and needs to block better, even as a receiving TE, but I liked what I saw.

Anyway, shared without further commentary, only OJ Howard was worse - per PFF.

FWIW, I think they also had a poor grade on Landon Collins as a rookie.

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Do they factor  
XBRONX : 1/9/2018 5:45 pm : link
target%. I dont know how you factor whose fault a low target percent is, but Engram was at 55.7%
RE: RE: I guess John Ross is still better  
arcarsenal : 1/9/2018 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13780644 djstat said:
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In comment 13780145 SirYesSir said:


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you know, because he's fast

Did he even play this year?


Barely.

Started his season a few weeks in - took a pretty big shot on his first touch and lost a a fumble in the process, and didn't touch the ball again all year.

Complete non-factor.
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arcarsenal : 1/9/2018 5:59 pm : link
Mike Williams is another guy with a bafflingly higher "grade" than Engram.

He didn't see the field until a few weeks in, caught like 10 passes total all year and only started one game.

I must be mis-understanding how these grades are calculated otherwise they make no sense.

John Ross, like I just mentioned before, was a WR who didn't even catch a single pass this year. They used him on an end-around where he got blown up, lost a fumble, and never touched the ball again on offense all season. He barely even played. He was active for 3 games total.

Yet, he has a higher grade than Engram.

There's zero logic there.
PFF shouldn't have released this one  
adamg : 1/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
Shows how flawed their methodology is still. And they're ripping people off to pay for this shit.
Idiotic rankings  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2018 7:27 pm : link
& an insult to people with eyes. PFF sucks. We all know that.
Pat Mahomes is ahead of Deshaun Watson.  
Mike from SI : 1/9/2018 7:43 pm : link
Ok.
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arcarsenal : 1/9/2018 9:39 pm : link
There has to be something I'm missing with this chart.

Jonathan Allen has one of the highest grades on it and he played 5 games before he suffered a season-ending injury.

Some of these guys literally played a quarter of a season or less and have higher grades than guys who actually played well and played the entire year.
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pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 9:36 am : link
Quote:

Ryan Smith
‏ @PFF_Smith
14h14 hours ago

Ryan Smith Retweeted Pro Football Focus

To clarify Evan Engram's grade:

Led all TEs in drops (11)
40th/43 TEs in drop rate (11/75 catchable passes)
72nd/74 TEs in run blocking (35.4)
Does he clarify..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2018 9:41 am : link
how that places his grade below a player who didn't have a catch or make any contributions??

Basically, Engram's grade means that guys who didn't play at all performed better, as if Engram was a net negative (and a hefty negative to boot) to the team.

It really is indefensible.
Really ridiculous.  
Beezer : 1/10/2018 9:41 am : link
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Agree.  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2018 9:43 am : link
indefensible.

Only thing is I don't know they're grading method any more. It used to be each play a player could get anywhere from -2 to +2 in single digit increments.

0 was a neutral play where the player had no positive or negative impact and the players grade was an accumulation of those plays.

I don't think that's the case any longer, guys like Mike Williams, John Ross, Mahomes, etc. can't possibly be rated higher than Engram if it was the case.

Anyway, I don't get too worked up over things like this, really shared because I wanted to make sure it wasn't just me who thought this was ludicrous.
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