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What breaking giants news shocked you the most?

UK Giants Fan : 1/9/2018 1:04 pm
Something different to discuss besides the usual. Just wondering what piece of breaking news shocked you the most or just you the most.

Eli getting benched hurt but wasn't unexpected.

The Jpp and Plaxico incidents were probably the most shocking

Steve Smith leaving us for the eagles was a bitter pill to swallow too.

I've only been a fan since 2005 so I'm sure there must be others from before my time. What you got?
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Being benched for Geno Smith  
NoPeanutz : 1/9/2018 1:06 pm : link
is a head scratcher.
And then, when the team relented and reinstated Manning, not dressing Webb until week 17 was equally puzzling.
Plax shooting himself...  
trueblueinpw : 1/9/2018 1:09 pm : link
My buddy who’s a Jets fan texted me that Plax shot himself. Never saw that coming. Fucking idiot cost us a real chance at another Supe.
Plax shooting himself, hands down  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2018 1:09 pm : link
It was so bizarre and came at such a bad time, when they were 9-1 and dominating the league
...  
BrettNYG10 : 1/9/2018 1:11 pm : link
Plax. I saw a thread here and thought he killed himself for a few hours. IIRC, someone posted a rumor hours before it was public.
Actually, Geno starting for Eli tops Plax.  
BrettNYG10 : 1/9/2018 1:11 pm : link
.
Plax  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/9/2018 1:12 pm : link
shooting himself for sure. He wasn’t having the greatest season but he still put the fear in a defense when he’d run a deep route.

The Eagles were he worst possible opponent we could have faced that year.

We would have blown the doors off Arizona in Giants Stadium
Firing the GM  
mrvax : 1/9/2018 1:12 pm : link
and HC mid-season shocked me the most.
I was in college and pretty busy  
81_Great_Dane : 1/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
but I remember being shaken by the death of Troy Archer.
I was pretty shocked  
PaulN : 1/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
When the Giants traded Homer Jones, although they got Ron Johnson and he was worth it for Jones, he was a great running back for us, too bad his health didn't allow a long career. I still would rank Johnson behind only Tiki and Morris for pure skill.

The other move that shocked me was when the Giants traded Fran Tarkenton, I really liked Tarkenton. He was a really exciting player, and when he teamed with a healthy Ron Johnson the Giants had the best season they had from the dark ages of Giants football, the 9-5 season.

Those are two big ones, but when the Giants traded Sam huff, that was the most shocking thing the Giants ever did since I have been a fan, he was the heart and soul of the great Giant teams of the mid fifties to early sixties, and he was a great player.
Yeah Troy Archer  
Sec 103 : 1/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
was quite a surprise.
The Plax thing cost us a Super Bowl 99.9%
Not sure this qualifies but that string of stud FA's we signed in 2005  
FranknWeezer : 1/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
was pretty freaking awesome. Team had been in the doldrums in Fassel's last couple years. Had a rough outing TC/Eli's first year. Then we loosened the purse strings all of a sudden and made a huge splash in FA, most of it all in one week.

Pierce
McKenzie
Whitfield
Burress
Feely

Also QB's Jim Miller and Tim Hasselbeck
Plax and JPP  
pjcas18 : 1/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
far more than Eli.

Plax and JPP were random events no one could really foresee happening.

Many people felt once the Giants were mathematically eliminated it made sense to see other QB's and protect Eli, sure most didn't expect it to be for Geno Smith, but Eli sitting/being benched didn't shock me. The way it was handled and communicated was stupid, but not on the level of Plax or JPP.
RE: Plax shooting himself, hands down  
Peppers : 1/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13780189 Greg from LI said:
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It was so bizarre and came at such a bad time, when they were 9-1 and dominating the league


Easily this. Plax shooting himself cost us at the very least a SB appearance, IMO.
Steve smith  
muhajir : 1/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
Signing with the eagles. Espeically considering a few hrs before the news broke, a poster came on with a cryptic warning that the forum was going to go bananas very soon. Lol
I have a few... all about the same amount of 'shock' involved...  
T-Bone : 1/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
1. Plax shooting himself
2. Simms being released
3. Giants trade up for Eli
4. EA drafting Osi (those of us that have been here that long and remember MiS would know why)
5. "Pushing my chips to the middle of the table" speech

All four of those shocked me about the same but if I HAD to go with one of them it'd be #1.
Probably  
Butler : 1/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
Simms being released. I was so pissed about that at the time, considering the season we were coming off, and who we had to replace him. And it sent us right in to the Wilderness of Bad QB's for years.
..  
Dodge : 1/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
How can Geno starting shock anyone with this shit show of a season and the clowns that were running the team?

Nothing should shock you when your team had only won 2 games.
About 1% of BBI would know who and what I am talking  
carpoon : 1/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
about, but when the Giants failed to re-sign future HOFer Arnie Weinmeister and he went to Canadian football, I was totally devastated. He was our super star and a super star of the entire league.
The Giants of those days, had a reputation as one of the three cheapest teams in the league along with the Redskins and the Bears.
It really shocked me.
RE: Probably  
Elisthebest : 1/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13780233 Butler said:
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Simms being released. I was so pissed about that at the time, considering the season we were coming off, and who we had to replace him. And it sent us right in to the Wilderness of Bad QB's for years.

I'm still pissed
Simms release was a stunner  
bluepepper : 1/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
the whole salary cap thing was new so it never occurred to me that they would just let a any vet go like that especially Simms.
Starting Geno was a surprise  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
But in the context of this past loony-tunes season, it wasn't really THAT shocking. The context is why Plax is #1. Look at the circumstances when that happened, and what happened after it.
Plax, by far.  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
Not only was it a big deal, but it was such a bizarre story. The JPP thing was similar, but not nearly as bizarre. Blowing up your hand with fireworks - weird and stupid, but within the realm of stupid stuff people do. Shooting yourself in the leg? I remember reading the text update and thinking - "this does not compute".
Drafting Qb Dave Brown from DUKE  
Alwaysblue22 : 1/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
Another QB who turned into a complete Bust. He was awful.
2...  
gmen4ever : 1/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
1. Phil Sims being cut (not on your list)
2. Eli benching...
When Kerry Colllins was in Carolina..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
I was hanging out with a lot of Panthers and he wasn't well liked and the times I got to meet him he was hammered and a jerkoff.

After one of my baseball games, the team is out having a few pitchers and they put Collins head shot on the screen at being signed and I literally said, "What team is stupid enough to sign Collins". Then ESPN changed the picture or put an overlay of a Giants hat on it. My jaw dropped.
Reeves cutting Pepper Johnson was pretty shocking too  
Greg from LI : 1/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
Him and his NJ Broncos....ugh
RE: When Kerry Colllins was in Carolina..  
T-Bone : 1/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13780260 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I was hanging out with a lot of Panthers and he wasn't well liked and the times I got to meet him he was hammered and a jerkoff.

After one of my baseball games, the team is out having a few pitchers and they put Collins head shot on the screen at being signed and I literally said, "What team is stupid enough to sign Collins". Then ESPN changed the picture or put an overlay of a Giants hat on it. My jaw dropped.


LMAO!!!!!

I can picture the look on your face and the crap you took after that! Now THAT'S funny!
RE: I have a few... all about the same amount of 'shock' involved...  
Del Shofner : 1/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13780231 T-Bone said:
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4. EA drafting Osi (those of us that have been here that long and remember MiS would know why)


That was quite a day on BBI!
Parcells leaving after winning Super Bowl...  
kinard : 1/9/2018 1:45 pm : link
... there was some news about a possible health situation existing but the reality of him leaving a few months after we had just won our 2d Super Bowl was still stunning..
Steve Smith signing with the Eagles  
Go Terps : 1/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
I was sure he'd be catching passes from Eli for a decade. Goes to show I didn't know the extent of his injury. Smith, Cruz, and Nicks were lessons I'll never forget.

As for JPP and Plax, stupid people do stupid things. There were rumors about Plax and guns (remember the gunshots from the car rented in his name shortly after he signed with us) prior to that.
Simms, by a mile.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
My favorite player from the day he first put on blue, cut after fifteen seasons without a hint it was coming. Then come two other decisions involving Simms: Parcells picking Brunner and Handley picking Hostetler.

Everything else is a distant fourth. One worth mentioning is Reese getting fired in mid-season. His days were obviously numbered, but the timing was so un-Giants.

Plax and Pierre-Paul are in a totally different category. Those were accidents, albeit shockingly idiotic ones. I think they are more akin to Troy Archer's death than anything the team decided.
Play took the cake  
George : 1/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
Parcells resigning was a close second (I was living overseas at the time with zero American media outlets at my disposal and had no clue he was contemplating it). That one took me by surprise.
I'll say Per-Plaxico  
Carson53 : 1/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
and I would say I never forgave that tool for that!
As in perplexing, ironically the year before, he hardly practices all season with a leg injury, and comes up big
in the postseason. Yes, what could have been...
Play took the cake  
George : 1/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Parcells resigning was a close second (I was living overseas at the time with zero American media outlets at my disposal and had no clue he was contemplating it). That one took me by surprise.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
Plax shooting himself.

Also, Tyler Sash committing suicide. That really threw me for a loop because he was so young & the CTE news was starting to come to the forefront.
didn't pan out but at the time  
Gordo : 1/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
signing Hershel Walker. This was before the Internet and my dad had called me after school to tell me. I remember thinking how did that happen? nothing cool ever happens to the giants. As it turned out he was a major bust here.
RE: RE: I have a few... all about the same amount of 'shock' involved...  
T-Bone : 1/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13780270 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 13780231 T-Bone said:


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4. EA drafting Osi (those of us that have been here that long and remember MiS would know why)



That was quite a day on BBI!


Honestly... that might be #1 for me. I remember eating some popcorn during the second round that year and the Giants pick coming up and Osi's name appearing. I literally yelled out 'OH SHIT! THAT'S MATT'S BOY!' and started chocking. I just remember Matt bringing up his name a few weeks/months before the draft saying to keep an eye out for him and no one had heard of him before (at least that's how I remember it). So when he was not only drafted... and not only drafted by the Giants... but also in the SECOND ROUND?!

There wasn't much that I agreed with MiS about during his time here... but he's always had my respect because of that one event.
T-Bone...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
LOL

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LMAO!!!!!

I can picture the look on your face and the crap you took after that! Now THAT'S funny!


I think other moves have probably shocked me more, but in the moment, that was the worst. And I took shit awhile for it.

We had a huge electronics store here that lasted maybe 6 months top - Incredible Universe, but my wife and I were in there one day and came up to Frank Garcia, a Panthers Guard, and Collins. I knew Garcia, so we had a quick talk and then went off. My wife, who isn't anything like me from an insult category, said, who was the guy with the goofy, mouthbreathing look? That image always stuck with me.
Firing the GM and HC mid-season  
David B. : 1/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
Players will always do stupid shit (Plax, JPP), and yeah, you have to shake your head at some of these idiots.

But for an organization that is painfully stable -- sometimes to a fault, firing the GM and HC mid-season is the most uncharacteristic thing I've seen from them in my lifetime.

Even Handley wasn't fired mid-season.
And they haven't ever fired a GM.

Like all of us, I figured someone would get the ax at the END of the season, but not during. Furthermore, I was afraid Reese (and Ross) would get away unscathed again.
Pisarcek Csonka Fumble.  
Chip : 1/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
Take the knee. Why do you run the ball.
Troy Archer  
Steve in South Jersey : 1/9/2018 1:53 pm : link
death. Probably my lowest point as a Giant fan.
RE: T-Bone...  
T-Bone : 1/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13780296 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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LOL



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LMAO!!!!!

I can picture the look on your face and the crap you took after that! Now THAT'S funny!



I think other moves have probably shocked me more, but in the moment, that was the worst. And I took shit awhile for it.

We had a huge electronics store here that lasted maybe 6 months top - Incredible Universe, but my wife and I were in there one day and came up to Frank Garcia, a Panthers Guard, and Collins. I knew Garcia, so we had a quick talk and then went off. My wife, who isn't anything like me from an insult category, said, who was the guy with the goofy, mouthbreathing look? That image always stuck with me.


LMAO!!! Ya killin me Fats! Seriously! I can clearly visualize both of those stories.

Thanks... I needed a good laugh.
First of all...  
Dan in the Springs : 1/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
Eli benching = fake news. He wasn't benched, but opted out of a start where he would be replaced at halftime. Not nearly the same thing as a benching. It wasn't shocking to me either, it was a sound strategy to see what the backups had.

Most shocking news was definitely winning SB XLII vs. the Pats, completing the revenge tour and winning 11 on the road (including the SB). Didn't see that coming at all.
I was pretty excited to see Chad Jones play  
TommytheElephant : 1/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
His accident was pretty shocking

RE: I was pretty excited to see Chad Jones play  
OdellBeckhamJr : 1/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13780366 TommytheElephant said:
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His accident was pretty shocking


That was a tough one
RE: I was pretty excited to see Chad Jones play  
T-Bone : 1/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13780366 TommytheElephant said:
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His accident was pretty shocking


This one crossed my mind too.
When they hired Ray Handley after Parcells left  
GFAN52 : 1/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
Ugh
The most recent shocking incident..  
EricJ : 1/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
was when they fired Coughlin but kept Reese
Eli benching, Hart release, Apple, DRC and Jenkins  
mdc1 : 1/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
suspensions. Sign of a franchise in crisis. What sold it was the Fox pregame poking us as comedic entertainment. Probably was the last straw for the owners after incompetently ignoring these problems. I suspect if Beckham were around it would have burned down faster with this ego demands.
RE: I was in college and pretty busy  
old man : 1/9/2018 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13780210 81_Great_Dane said:
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but I remember being shaken by the death of Troy Archer.

+1.
That one bothered me...besides it being the death of a guy almost my age..and given it looked like a good player in hopefully a turnaround for the team.
Before that..the Sam Huff trade.
After that..Plax.
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