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FWIW: P. King says Patricia favors the NYG over DET

Defenderdawg : 1/10/2018 7:10 am
“. In Detroit, I hear Pats defensive coordinator Matt Patricia is the choice over Houston’s defensive boss, Mike Vrabel—but Patricia favors the Giants. If the Giants give the nod to Patricia, Detroit could be Vrabel’s job. … New Chicago coach Matt Nagy got hot at the end of the season, and Colts GM Chris Ballard—the former Chiefs director of player personnel who knew Nagy well—also was smitten with him. … Indy would seem a good fit for Pats offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. … Players love Carolina defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, who interviewed with the Giants on Tuesday, and he could be the calming guy to fix a divided and mercenary New York team. Plus, he wouldn’t balk at GM Dave Gettleman picking the team’s long-term quarterback. … Arizona is wide open. Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur could be in play there, or with the Giants...”
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RE: Using the same logic being used with Wilks,  
giants#1 : 1/10/2018 9:14 am : link
In comment 13781135 Bill in UT said:
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which I don't disagree with, if Patricia is the guy, why hasn't an offer been made by now, particularly after interviewing Wilks and satisfying the RR?


Read Pat Leonard's article. They can't make an (official) offer until the coach is out of the playoffs.
I would be good w Patricia  
GiantTuff1 : 1/10/2018 9:17 am : link
young, creative, analytical. Makes chicken salad out of chicken shit. He has a BB like engineering mind in keeping the machine going, and think he could develop a hard nosed culture.

The goodell shirt thing is a deterrent for some but to me it shows he is sticking up for his guys and isn’t afraid to be himself. We had a guy like that named Parcells. To me, I bet that brought him closer to the locker room and people in the Pats organization as he wasn’t affraid to express what others thought but nobody wanted to say. That’s a positive to me even if you could argue it was in poor taste — to who? Corporate America? We would all high five Gilbride if he wore that shirt if he NFL came after the Giants. Thats being real not like phony McAdoo trying to pretend to be Pat Riley mafiosa version.

I like it Giants... If it’s not BB himself I like one of the NE guys and the more I think about it the closer Patricia seems to BB than McDaniels or any one else for that matter.

I hope the Pats lose Sunday.
RE: RE: Using the same logic being used with Wilks,  
Bill in UT : 1/10/2018 9:17 am : link
In comment 13781144 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13781135 Bill in UT said:


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which I don't disagree with, if Patricia is the guy, why hasn't an offer been made by now, particularly after interviewing Wilks and satisfying the RR?



Read Pat Leonard's article. They can't make an (official) offer until the coach is out of the playoffs.


Thanks, yeah, just read it. But there could still be an unofficial understanding as he also mentioned, that would probably leak.
RE: I want defense...  
BigBlueinChicago : 1/10/2018 9:23 am : link
In comment 13781105 Chris684 said:
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I’d much rather Wilks or Patricia than Shurmur or McDaniels.


I want a guy who will be a good overall head coach regardless of their forte.
Just for clarification,  
MOOPS : 1/10/2018 9:26 am : link
everyone that interviewed with us, we allowed them to leave at the conclusion of the interview. Not just Wilks, right?
RE: Just for clarification,  
giants#1 : 1/10/2018 9:28 am : link
In comment 13781171 MOOPS said:
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everyone that interviewed with us, we allowed them to leave at the conclusion of the interview. Not just Wilks, right?


No, the rest are being held in Beez's dungeon basement.
RE: Just for clarification,  
ryanmkeane : 1/10/2018 9:44 am : link
In comment 13781171 MOOPS said:
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everyone that interviewed with us, we allowed them to leave at the conclusion of the interview. Not just Wilks, right?

Well, yes. But Shurmur, Patricia, and McDaniels still have games to coach. Wilks did not.
NYDN Leonard - Patricia Next Coach  
DeepBlueJint : 1/10/2018 9:49 am : link
So he says
RE: RE: RE: Peter King... another jackass  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/10/2018 9:54 am : link
In comment 13781086 jvm52106 said:
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anyone with a 3rd grade understanding of the NFL could speculate that Patricia favors the NYG over DET.

Um, yeah, except that's not what is says. Is says he's reporting what he heard, which is not the same as speculating.



PLus, with the GM situation in Detroit it was widely believed MP was an almost lock there and would want to go there. So, not as obvious that he would want to choose NY over DET.

I love the Giants and have for over 45 years (yikes) but some of you need to realize that this team and organization is the beacon for all. We have won two SB's since the 2000's began but we missed the playoffs:

2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017.. Ummm, we have missed the playoffs 10 times. If you count the Interim Coach this will be our 4th HC in the last 3 years..

We have a locker room accused of quitting and being filled with malcontents. We have a superstar who is also a headache, an aging QB on the decline but with the love of the fans now because of the jackass previous HC, we have no Oline, over paid DE's, no LB'ers, 2 WR's (and 1 is still hit or miss), nothing really to hang your hat on at RB yet).... Please, tell me why it is obvious that someone would want this job over others...


Because you can tear it down and build it in your image as your own. You have a solid talent finder in DG, and an Owner that will do his best to stay out of the football side of the business.
NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
DeepBlueJint : 1/10/2018 9:58 am : link
They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.
RE: NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/10/2018 10:02 am : link
In comment 13781242 DeepBlueJint said:
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.


T's and C's can you say this in English please?
RE: RE: NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
DeepBlueJint : 1/10/2018 10:04 am : link
In comment 13781254 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.

The deal is supposedly nearly done. Finalizing a few terms and conditions.



T's and C's can you say this in English please?
OK so Patricia  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/10/2018 10:13 am : link
is getting a contract ready and prepared. Crossing the T's and dotting the I's
RE: NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
TyreeHelmet : 1/10/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13781242 DeepBlueJint said:
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.


You realize they aren't allowed to do that? Maybe its a wink wink handshake deal, but they can't sign him or even verbally agree until Pats season is over.
RE: RE: NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/10/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13781281 TyreeHelmet said:
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.



You realize they aren't allowed to do that? Maybe its a wink wink handshake deal, but they can't sign him or even verbally agree until Pats season is over.


They can certainly get a contract in place, that just needs to be signed.
RE: If you look at the rosters as is, Detroit is in a better  
djm : 1/10/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 13781050 Rjanyg said:
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Situation. Young QB in prime, solid O Line, nice set of WR and TE, young MLB, need to add DL and re-sign Ensah. Maybe a history of losing and no playoff wins or Super Bowls but I would think the situation is better to enter.

NYG has a rich history, cornerstone franchise with championship expectations. Aging QB who is making a ton of money, superstar WR going into last year of deal who is volital, bad OL, divided defense and a team with no leadership.

I would say the ownership might be better in NYG.

Detroit might be the better spot. Just sayin.


Way too much thought process figuring out which situation is better. Unless a franchise has a ridiculously attractive appeal to a HC, more often than not we're just splitting hairs. You're sitting here balancing the WRs on both Det and NYG...splitting hairs is being kind. This is the NYG franchise. IF a HC doesn't hate this area he's going to want to come to the Giants. Det will lose this battle more often than not and "the young MLB" on Detroit won't be a factor at all here. Det isn't a bad situation, it's just not the NY Giants. And you are discounting this roster. Many people are. This team can win next season.
BB could of sold Patricia and McDaniels  
Simms11 : 1/10/2018 10:41 am : link
to the Giants as well and of course his opinion will be well-considered by Giants brass. Who cares what the guy looks like, as long as he can control and manage the team.
RE: NYDN Leonard Furthermore ...  
GMen131 : 1/10/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 13781242 DeepBlueJint said:
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.


Huh? Is this you saying this? Cuz I've read Leonard's article several times and NOWHERE int here does he report anything about a contract being done or even worked on.
Seems assumption based  
Peppers : 1/10/2018 10:47 am : link
He’s from upstate NY. So it’s an easy connection.

Patricia is a lot like Belichick, he keeps his cards close to his chest.

People speculating about Wilks being out because he went to AZ  
AnnapolisMike : 1/10/2018 11:02 am : link
is silly. A HC is not a free agent player. I see no problem in letting the process play out. The fit needs to be right for both the team and potential HC. The Giants HC position the best position available regardless of the situation with the roster. It's a good franchise in the top market in the US. The dominos will start to fall as soon as the Giants hire someone.
RE: Giants letting  
RinR : 1/10/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 13781085 ryanmkeane said:
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Wilks go to Arizona means that he is not their #1 choice.

There's no other explanation. If he was their #1 choice and killed the interview, he's hired yesterday. They couldn't risk losing him to another team.


There are several good explanations in the pinned Wilks thread.
Settle down...  
Slade : 1/10/2018 11:23 am : link
It ain't over yet.
Haha  
ryanmkeane : 1/10/2018 11:29 am : link
ok pal.
RE: Settle down...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2018 11:29 am : link
In comment 13781419 Slade said:
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It ain't over yet.


Knowing your track record, it's over then.
RE: Settle down...  
est1986 : 1/10/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13781419 Slade said:
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It ain't over yet.


Hope you are right
RE: Settle down...  
Carson53 : 1/10/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 13781419 Slade said:
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It ain't over yet.
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Okay Slade, tell us who you got as the new HC of
the New York Football Giants?
If Peter King says  
Carson53 : 1/10/2018 11:58 am : link
Patricia, it's probably McDaniels, that's all I got.
I am not enthused over Patricia myself.
I've been saying from the beginning...  
Slade : 1/10/2018 12:04 pm : link
Belichick is indeed in play.
RE: I've been saying from the beginning...  
arcarsenal : 1/10/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13781492 Slade said:
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Belichick is indeed in play.


Go away.
RE: I've been saying from the beginning...  
Canton : 1/10/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13781492 Slade said:
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Belichick is indeed in play.


Belichick takes over and brings Patricia over as Assistant Head Coach!

Dream team!

Ohh fuck off Slade
RE: I've been saying from the beginning...  
Ceez2.0 : 1/10/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13781492 Slade said:
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Belichick is indeed in play.


I flipping love asshatery.....but at what point do we mute this guy?!
RE: RE: If you look at the rosters as is, Detroit is in a better  
jvm52106 : 1/10/2018 12:20 pm : link


Way too much thought process figuring out which situation is better. Unless a franchise has a ridiculously attractive appeal to a HC, more often than not we're just splitting hairs. You're sitting here balancing the WRs on both Det and NYG...splitting hairs is being kind. This is the NYG franchise. IF a HC doesn't hate this area he's going to want to come to the Giants. Det will lose this battle more often than not and "the young MLB" on Detroit won't be a factor at all here. Det isn't a bad situation, it's just not the NY Giants. And you are discounting this roster. Many people are. This team can win next season. [/quote]

I am discounting this roster because it is poorly put together..
Patricia  
Mr. Nickels : 1/10/2018 12:21 pm : link
next coach of the Giants. Unless we can get Belichick himself.
RE: I've been saying from the beginning...  
Jay on the Island : 1/10/2018 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13781492 Slade said:
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Belichick is indeed in play.

It's too bad he can't draft Darnold since he is going back to USC.
Pete King's source is his local Starbucks Barista  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2018 12:24 pm : link
who's also a BBI poster.
RE: RE: RE: Peter King... another jackass  
map7711 : 1/10/2018 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13781086 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 13781041 EricJ said:


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anyone with a 3rd grade understanding of the NFL could speculate that Patricia favors the NYG over DET.

Um, yeah, except that's not what is says. Is says he's reporting what he heard, which is not the same as speculating.



PLus, with the GM situation in Detroit it was widely believed MP was an almost lock there and would want to go there. So, not as obvious that he would want to choose NY over DET.

I love the Giants and have for over 45 years (yikes) but some of you need to realize that this team and organization is the beacon for all. We have won two SB's since the 2000's began but we missed the playoffs:

2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017.. Ummm, we have missed the playoffs 10 times. If you count the Interim Coach this will be our 4th HC in the last 3 years..

We have a locker room accused of quitting and being filled with malcontents. We have a superstar who is also a headache, an aging QB on the decline but with the love of the fans now because of the jackass previous HC, we have no Oline, over paid DE's, no LB'ers, 2 WR's (and 1 is still hit or miss), nothing really to hang your hat on at RB yet).... Please, tell me why it is obvious that someone would want this job over others...


Matthew Stafford 0-3 in playoffs. Detroit has zero SB rings. If you’re looking at history-come on man. They haven’t won a damn PO game since 1991. 1991!!!
RE: RE: I've been saying from the beginning...  
yankeeslover : 1/10/2018 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13781536 Jay on the Island said:
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Belichick is indeed in play.


It's too bad he can't draft Darnold since he is going back to USC.


Thanks asshole, just spit my soda all over my keyboard.
I don’t understand how anyone thinks the Giants will pick someone with  
Ivan15 : 1/10/2018 12:51 pm : link
No HC experience. Should the Giants repeat their last mistake?

Pick must be McDaniels (not my choice) or Shurmur. Neither was successful HC but both probably learned a lot. Whoever wows should get the job.
No problem with Patricia. He is  
TMS : 1/10/2018 1:40 pm : link
super smart and has coached on both side of the ball. Reminds me of Dough Marrone who I liked a lot. Except Marrone is an offensive guy. Rather have a defensive guy as HC myself. This guy is so smart he has learned at every level along the way. Love this choice if it happens. DG is a lot like Patricia himself. Smart and tough guys who love FB and can identify FB players not athletic prima donnas looking for a paycheck. That kind of personnel selection would have had ELI up with Brady now Imo.
Of..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2018 1:43 pm : link
course you don't have a problem with Patricia:

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No problem with Patricia. He is
TMS : 1:40 pm : link : reply
super smart and has coached on both side of the ball. Reminds me of Dough Marrone who I liked a lot. Except Marrone is an offensive guy. Rather have a defensive guy as HC myself. This guy is so smart he has learned at every level along the way. Love this choice if it happens. DG is a lot like Patricia himself. Smart and tough guys who love FB and can identify FB players not athletic prima donnas looking for a paycheck. That kind of personnel selection would have had ELI up with Brady now Imo.


He's a fucking white guy.
Dough Marrone  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2018 1:46 pm : link
Is sensational.
RE: Dough Marrone  
Victor in CT : 1/10/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13781681 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Is sensational.


don't forget Roman Marrone. knock down dis fargin' wall
Why is everyone so mean...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2018 2:56 pm : link
to Slade?
RE: Why is everyone so mean...  
djm : 1/10/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13781793 bw in dc said:
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to Slade?


Because he professes to be an insider. Comes on here predicting shit that gets BBI up in arms only to see his predictions fall flat time and time again. He's amusing if you don't take anything he/she seriously.
RE: RE: Why is everyone so mean...  
tbonfig : 1/10/2018 6:02 pm : link
In comment 13781893 djm said:
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to Slade?



Because he professes to be an insider. Comes on here predicting shit that gets BBI up in arms only to see his predictions fall flat time and time again. He's amusing if you don't take anything he/she seriously.


[insert "Are You Not Entertained" gladiator meme here]


idk, maybe I'm in the minority but I like looking for Slade's updates. Keep rockin' Slade.
RE: RE: Why is everyone so mean...  
bw in dc : 1/10/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13781893 djm said:
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to Slade?



Because he professes to be an insider. Comes on here predicting shit that gets BBI up in arms only to see his predictions fall flat time and time again. He's amusing if you don't take anything he/she seriously.


I get it - I was mostly being sarcastic.

He really changes the temperature in these threads when he pops in with his "news". The vitriolic meter goes way up. The reactions are swift and all out.

It's quite amusing and he keeps coming back for more...
Yup  
djm : 1/10/2018 10:52 pm : link
Even if I ever killed slade here he can continue posting as far as I'm concerned.
Really  
darren in pdx : 1/10/2018 11:36 pm : link
convinced that he's (Slade) just doing it for the attention at this point. Don't care if he's banned or not, but with his track record of false information I just roll my eyes and move on.
I said there is no way Patricia would be hired for any HC job  
montanagiant : 1/10/2018 11:37 pm : link
That appears to be a big fail on my part
RE: I said there is no way Patricia would be hired for any HC job  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2018 12:04 am : link
In comment 13782374 montanagiant said:
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That appears to be a big fail on my part


Well, he hasn't been hired yet. And even if he had been, we still have 0 idea if he's any good at it.
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