talks to the media and that wasn't the point of my comment. My point was that Patricia was there since 2004, through most of their scandals, through BB recycling his players and changing schemes, and all reports talk about prepared he always is. But you are worried about what happens when a Mic is in his face?
No wise ass. You're saying he is equipped to handle pressure and scandles becuase of issues surrounding the Pats, and I'm saying you have no way of knowing that. All we really know about the Pats staff is that Belichick can handle all of these things. None of his assitants who have left have shown that they can handle the top job or these types of pressures on their own.
players as Bills little protg. Takeo Spikes once said that if anything happened to Bill, Patricia would be the one to take over.
Not Josh McDaniels, or anyone else on that staff. Matt Patricia.
I like the idea of Wilks from Carolina. But I can't take any issue at all with Patricia being hired either. He really seems to know what he's doing and his players seem to respect him as well.
that interviews, resumes aside - given BB's history with franchise and the fact that Kraft and Maras have decent relationship - there were some unofficial conversations about both NE candidates.
Before the process it was Schwartz, then early on it was McDaniels, then Belichick, then Wilks- Im not going to read anything into this. Seems like these beat reporters will just keep guessing until they are finally right.
not against Patricia at all, but I don't see where Leonard made his case why Patricia is now the front runner.
Perhaps Wilks chose not to pursue Giants job further. Arizona has a much better D and superstar RB, good WR's.. They just need a VET QB (Alex Smith?) to come and be good....
Agreed...other than something along the lines of "the Daily News has learned...". This amounts to nothing. That doesn't mean it isn't true or he won't be hired. But, this article provided no evidence that it was happening.
even a sh*t-stirrer like Pat wouldn't write that the "daily news has learned" if he didn't have something he was going off. doesn't mean it's a good source, or even one in the giants organization. or that it isn't a smokescreen. but i would doubt he's making it up out of whole cloth
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About this. Don't think it's a coincidence that both Peter King & Leonard are talking about Patricia a few hours apart after not really hearing much about him for the last week.
Leonard is not known to be particularly well connected - hard to believe he'd be the first among the beats to break this.
Given the lack of any signs provided in an "all signs point to" article, it's not entirely crazy to consider that Leonard is picking up "all signs point to" based on Myers' tweet (that the Giants prefer Patricia) and King's story (that Patricia prefers the Giants).
That's not to say that it's necessarily untrue, but with scoops at a premium for clicks, pairing Myers and King would probably be enough for Leonard to run with the story.
Here's hoping Pat's correct, but I'd agree there appears to be no real sourced info here, he's guessulating.
Same. The more I read about him, the more I like him. He's my pick at this point.
Of course Brown Recluse likes the HC candidate that looks like a recluse.
Patricia is brilliant by all accounts and he has suckled at the teat of the NFL's GOAT. Just not sure how this will translate into him being a HC.
He checks the box for being a seasoned coordinator, but after the McAdoo experiment, I would would be more comfortable with someone that has HC experience.
On the other hand, this mother fucker just throws off the Belichick vibe, so that has to count for something!
talks to the media and that wasn't the point of my comment. My point was that Patricia was there since 2004, through most of their scandals, through BB recycling his players and changing schemes, and all reports talk about prepared he always is. But you are worried about what happens when a Mic is in his face?
No wise ass. You're saying he is equipped to handle pressure and scandles becuase of issues surrounding the Pats, and I'm saying you have no way of knowing that. All we really know about the Pats staff is that Belichick can handle all of these things. None of his assitants who have left have shown that they can handle the top job or these types of pressures on their own.
You are right, I dont know anything for a fact. But you can say the same damn thing for all these candidates so now what?
I thought Patricia was the most intriguing candidate due to his hand on analytics. Reminded me of Belichick when he was with the Giants.
He reminded Belichick of Belichick too Link - ( New Window )
This is awesome..
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Patricia told friends that, when he arrived, Belichick was still a pencil and paper guy, writing film notes by hand. Patricia helped digitize the Patriots film review system, just as he did at Hoffman. He ran a seminar teaching Patriots rookies the video system, gave older coaches basic computer training and showed the savvier coaches how to input data into spreadsheets, analyze it and incorporate the information into their weekly game plan.
Patricia told one friend that he saved Belichick two to three hours a day because the new system gave Belichick, a notorious film junkie, an easier way to study tape. Which gave Belichick that much more time to scheme and strategize for each weeks opponent.
Belichick started taking Patricia on scouting trips, giving him a glimpse into his world. [Matt] logged a lot of hours driving Bill around, says former Patriots lineman Matt Light, who is friends with Patricia. [Bill] wanted him close because he saw the value in a guy like Matt. People talk about players, but a really good coach? That may be more rare than an elite corner or quarterback or defensive end. Theyre very difficult to find in this league.
RE: RE: This will be interesting if it comes to pass
it's clearly click-bait and an attempt by the Daily Rag to be "right" whether Patricia is the HC or not. Too many articles from that Toilet Paper touting multiple possibilities for them to be "wrong". Pretty pathetic actually.
Though the radio guys in Boston today said they were starting to hear rumors that McDaniels was staying in NE. And apparently some of the NE beat writers said they believed that if Belichick ever decided to leave coaching and become a team president somewhere else, Patricia is the guy he would hire and not McDaniels.
But this is all radio rumors, so, yeah. But apparently most up there are pretty surprised by this report and never in a million years though Patricia would go to NY. So it's caused some buzz up there today supposedly.
Not yet, Stuff... he's telling us that "Belichick is still in play" in one of the pinned threads.
Guy is a complete clown.
I don't know what's come over me ..how could I have overlooked that! Seriously though, I don't pay much attention to him, I think it's rather amusing. Between you, me and the 4 virtual walls, I've warmed up to the idea of Wilks despite his lack of HC experience.
Why the hell would he want to keep a coach whose defenses have been at the bottom of the league 3 out of his last 4 years he was coordinator?? Why cant this fan base move on from 2007/08 that was the last time spags was a good coordinator
Why the hell would he want to keep a coach whose defenses have been at the bottom of the league 3 out of his last 4 years he was coordinator?? Why cant this fan base move on from 2007/08 that was the last time spags was a good coordinator
So true. But if someone suggested bringing back SB winning DC Perry Fewell the board would go crazy.
He saw the signs. And it opened up his eyes.
And the sign says "long hair freaky people need not apply"
So I put my hair under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said you look like a fine outstanding young man I think you'll do
So I took off my hat I said "Imagine that Huh Me working for you"
No wise ass. You're saying he is equipped to handle pressure and scandles becuase of issues surrounding the Pats, and I'm saying you have no way of knowing that. All we really know about the Pats staff is that Belichick can handle all of these things. None of his assitants who have left have shown that they can handle the top job or these types of pressures on their own.
This.
Not Josh McDaniels, or anyone else on that staff. Matt Patricia.
I like the idea of Wilks from Carolina. But I can't take any issue at all with Patricia being hired either. He really seems to know what he's doing and his players seem to respect him as well.
One of these clowns will be right;)
I'm guessing he'd never thought in his wildest dreams he'd coach the Giants - perhaps this is his "dream job" and that came across in the interview.
Ill second this. Good point.
He reminded Belichick of Belichick too
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not against Patricia at all, but I don't see where Leonard made his case why Patricia is now the front runner.
Perhaps Wilks chose not to pursue Giants job further. Arizona has a much better D and superstar RB, good WR's.. They just need a VET QB (Alex Smith?) to come and be good....
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I thought Patricia was the most intriguing candidate due to his hand on analytics. Reminded me of Belichick when he was with the Giants.
Exactly. I've always had a soft spot for egghead coaches in the Walsh/Belichick mode.
Don't say egghead coaches. has a disctinct Ray Handley vibe about it :-)
Leonard is not known to be particularly well connected - hard to believe he'd be the first among the beats to break this.
Given the lack of any signs provided in an "all signs point to" article, it's not entirely crazy to consider that Leonard is picking up "all signs point to" based on Myers' tweet (that the Giants prefer Patricia) and King's story (that Patricia prefers the Giants).
That's not to say that it's necessarily untrue, but with scoops at a premium for clicks, pairing Myers and King would probably be enough for Leonard to run with the story.
Same. The more I read about him, the more I like him. He's my pick at this point.
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Here's hoping Pat's correct, but I'd agree there appears to be no real sourced info here, he's guessulating.
Same. The more I read about him, the more I like him. He's my pick at this point.
We're faced with a growth pick, I go with the defensive mind groomed under BB. Hopefully, the entire org grows together into something special.
Lol just another you heard it hear first guess. This is the journalism of today.
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Here's hoping Pat's correct, but I'd agree there appears to be no real sourced info here, he's guessulating.
Same. The more I read about him, the more I like him. He's my pick at this point.
Of course Brown Recluse likes the HC candidate that looks like a recluse.
Patricia is brilliant by all accounts and he has suckled at the teat of the NFL's GOAT. Just not sure how this will translate into him being a HC.
He checks the box for being a seasoned coordinator, but after the McAdoo experiment, I would would be more comfortable with someone that has HC experience.
On the other hand, this mother fucker just throws off the Belichick vibe, so that has to count for something!
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talks to the media and that wasn't the point of my comment. My point was that Patricia was there since 2004, through most of their scandals, through BB recycling his players and changing schemes, and all reports talk about prepared he always is. But you are worried about what happens when a Mic is in his face?
No wise ass. You're saying he is equipped to handle pressure and scandles becuase of issues surrounding the Pats, and I'm saying you have no way of knowing that. All we really know about the Pats staff is that Belichick can handle all of these things. None of his assitants who have left have shown that they can handle the top job or these types of pressures on their own.
You are right, I dont know anything for a fact. But you can say the same damn thing for all these candidates so now what?
I don't think he has a source either -- after having watched how he works up close -- he's a little foot loose and freewheelin with his stories
having said that -- I'm not in the McDaniels camp but I also am intrigued with Patricia
Why on earth would he do that?
Patricia is a gregarious guy and if he's in a bar, he'll take the place over possibly doing keg stands
Belicheck sips his scotch in the unlit booth by the corner.
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I thought Patricia was the most intriguing candidate due to his hand on analytics. Reminded me of Belichick when he was with the Giants.
He reminded Belichick of Belichick too Link - ( New Window )
This is awesome..
Patricia told one friend that he saved Belichick two to three hours a day because the new system gave Belichick, a notorious film junkie, an easier way to study tape. Which gave Belichick that much more time to scheme and strategize for each weeks opponent.
Belichick started taking Patricia on scouting trips, giving him a glimpse into his world. [Matt] logged a lot of hours driving Bill around, says former Patriots lineman Matt Light, who is friends with Patricia. [Bill] wanted him close because he saw the value in a guy like Matt. People talk about players, but a really good coach? That may be more rare than an elite corner or quarterback or defensive end. Theyre very difficult to find in this league.
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I thought Patricia was the most intriguing candidate due to his hand on analytics. Reminded me of Belichick when he was with the Giants.
Exactly. I've always had a soft spot for egghead coaches in the Walsh/Belichick mode.
So did George Young, Thats why he chose Handley over Belichick.
- Slade
- Slade
Not yet, Stuff... he's telling us that "Belichick is still in play" in one of the pinned threads.
Guy is a complete clown.
But this is all radio rumors, so, yeah. But apparently most up there are pretty surprised by this report and never in a million years though Patricia would go to NY. So it's caused some buzz up there today supposedly.
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Starting growing your beards, boys!
- Slade
Not yet, Stuff... he's telling us that "Belichick is still in play" in one of the pinned threads.
Guy is a complete clown.
I don't know what's come over me ..how could I have overlooked that! Seriously though, I don't pay much attention to him, I think it's rather amusing. Between you, me and the 4 virtual walls, I've warmed up to the idea of Wilks despite his lack of HC experience.
Why the hell would he want to keep a coach whose defenses have been at the bottom of the league 3 out of his last 4 years he was coordinator?? Why cant this fan base move on from 2007/08 that was the last time spags was a good coordinator
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and hope he keeps SPAGS and ELI. Mo
Why the hell would he want to keep a coach whose defenses have been at the bottom of the league 3 out of his last 4 years he was coordinator?? Why cant this fan base move on from 2007/08 that was the last time spags was a good coordinator
So true. But if someone suggested bringing back SB winning DC Perry Fewell the board would go crazy.
Ironically, TMS would call it a "PC hire".
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So true. But if someone suggested bringing back SB winning DC Perry Fewell the board would go crazy.
Ironically, TMS would call it a "PC hire".
ha!!