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Concerning Jeremy Shockey tweet

Ned In Atlanta : 1/10/2018 5:25 pm
Admittedly donít know any back story but saw this today from his official twitter account



Don't like hospitals but I'll do any study to relive my head pain. Praying for the best its inÖ instagram.com/p/BdyPuzWAE6a/


Obviously speculation but wonder if he is dealing with football related head trauma/CTE. People hate Shockey but I saw him eating lunch in south beach a few years ago with Rosenhaus and he couldnít have been nicer. Hope heís alright
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Ran into Shockey  
Marty866b : 1/10/2018 6:42 pm : link
At the Fountainbleau two years ago. He was so nice to everyone and spent time to talk with people and took tons of pictures. He was in incredible shape.
In the ensuing four seasons (NO & CAR)  
Modus Operandi : 1/10/2018 6:51 pm : link
Since the "empty suit that Jeremy should've slugged" traded him, Shockey averaged 44 catches for 478 yds and 2.5 TDs. This while being the highest paid TE in the league. That's below average production.

By comparison, the fifth round pick who supplanted Shockey the year prior, and himself overrated by fans, averaged 33 rec. for 494 yds and just under 6 TDs over the same time frame.

That's before you even get into Shockey's homophobia, undercutting Eli and general assholishness.




RE: Ran into Shockey  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/10/2018 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13782151 Marty866b said:
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At the Fountainbleau two years ago. He was so nice to everyone and spent time to talk with people and took tons of pictures. He was in incredible shape.


Nice. He seems like a good guy.
...and then there is this...  
EricJ : 1/10/2018 7:06 pm : link
Friend of mine was at a poker game with other friends and O'hara was there. (this was years ago). After O'hara had a few beers in him my friend asked him how or why Eli's production improved this past season. O'hara said "two words"... "Jeremy Shockey". meaning, now that Shockey was off of the team Eli was a new person. He said Shockey would come back into the huddle after a bad pass and would say things like "nice pass asshole" to Eli.
heard several stories  
bc4life : 1/10/2018 7:09 pm : link
about him being a dick re: Eli.
I believe it.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 1/10/2018 7:16 pm : link
Shockey may have matured over the years since being out of the game but he was a douche. I can still remember him showing up Eli time and time again throwing his hands up in disgust Everytime he felt he was open and wasn't thrown to. He acted like he was twelve. He was a disruptive force on the team. Let's face it, you know there's a problem when your best season was your rookie season.
We know more about his time here than we did when he was an active  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2018 7:23 pm : link
player, but he's a case of wasted potential. If he had taken himself and his career more seriously, he had just as much talent and ability to have the same career Jason Witten had. One can argue he was more physically gifted.

Unfortunately he's actually guilty of all the things people project upon Odell Beckham. He wasn't a great teammate, wasn't fully invested in keeping himself in shape. He was out partying hard at every turn. Might even have had a problem with drinking too much based on his las vegas antics. If he played in the same era of cameras everywhere and social media, I wonder how long he would have lasted.

I know his home situation wasn't good and that's a big part of his development, but it's a shame to consider what he could have been with a better approach.
RE: ...and then there is this...  
chopperhatch : 1/10/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13782176 EricJ said:
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Friend of mine was at a poker game with other friends and O'hara was there. (this was years ago). After O'hara had a few beers in him my friend asked him how or why Eli's production improved this past season. O'hara said "two words"... "Jeremy Shockey". meaning, now that Shockey was off of the team Eli was a new person. He said Shockey would come back into the huddle after a bad pass and would say things like "nice pass asshole" to Eli.



Maybe was being tongue in cheek? I would think that with those O lines, a guy like O'Hara, Seubert, Diehl, Snee would tell Shockey to chill the hell out on talking like that in the huddle.
Shockey refused to attend the Super Bowl 42 victory parade  
BlackLight : 1/10/2018 7:37 pm : link
because he says he wasn't "invited."

Neither was anyone else on the team, dickhead.
I hope  
crick n NC : 1/10/2018 7:47 pm : link
Shockey is ok. I watched a whole lot of crap Giants offenses in the 90's, he changed that.
I guess I'm not the only one with a Shockey interaction...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2018 8:18 pm : link
I was @ buddy's bachelor party in 2010 & saw Shockey @ Lafitte's on Bourbon Street. And while I'm not one to approach celebrities, feeling like they're entitled to their privacy, I was a few (more like 8 or 9) deep & figured, 'What the hell? It's Shockey!'

Spoke to him for a minute or two. I told him I was a big Giants fan & thanked him for his time in NY. He was very nice and said he loved his time there & wished it had ended differently.
RE: We know more about his time here than we did when he was an active  
Les in TO : 1/10/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13782189 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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player, but he's a case of wasted potential. If he had taken himself and his career more seriously, he had just as much talent and ability to have the same career Jason Witten had. One can argue he was more physically gifted.

Unfortunately he's actually guilty of all the things people project upon Odell Beckham. He wasn't a great teammate, wasn't fully invested in keeping himself in shape. He was out partying hard at every turn. Might even have had a problem with drinking too much based on his las vegas antics. If he played in the same era of cameras everywhere and social media, I wonder how long he would have lasted.

I know his home situation wasn't good and that's a big part of his development, but it's a shame to consider what he could have been with a better approach.
Odell isnít a drinker and by all accounts is a great teammate. Only similarities are taking dumb 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which are by products of their competitiveness intensity and immaturity
RE: RE: We know more about his time here than we did when he was an active  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13782235 Les in TO said:
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player, but he's a case of wasted potential. If he had taken himself and his career more seriously, he had just as much talent and ability to have the same career Jason Witten had. One can argue he was more physically gifted.

Unfortunately he's actually guilty of all the things people project upon Odell Beckham. He wasn't a great teammate, wasn't fully invested in keeping himself in shape. He was out partying hard at every turn. Might even have had a problem with drinking too much based on his las vegas antics. If he played in the same era of cameras everywhere and social media, I wonder how long he would have lasted.

I know his home situation wasn't good and that's a big part of his development, but it's a shame to consider what he could have been with a better approach.

Odell isnít a drinker and by all accounts is a great teammate. Only similarities are taking dumb 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which are by products of their competitiveness intensity and immaturity


That's what I mean. Shockey was the things that people imagine Odell to be.
RE: ...and then there is this...  
Dr. D : 1/10/2018 8:55 pm : link
In comment 13782176 EricJ said:
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Friend of mine was at a poker game with other friends and O'hara was there. (this was years ago). After O'hara had a few beers in him my friend asked him how or why Eli's production improved this past season. O'hara said "two words"... "Jeremy Shockey". meaning, now that Shockey was off of the team Eli was a new person. He said Shockey would come back into the huddle after a bad pass and would say things like "nice pass asshole" to Eli.

This is EXACTLY what I thought, even as soon as Shockey got hurt in '07, I thought it could really be a blessing and help Eli and the Giants.

I wish him well, but as athletic as he was, it was a classic case of addition by subtraction.
RE: I believe it.  
Modus Operandi : 1/10/2018 8:57 pm : link
In comment 13782185 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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Let's face it, you know there's a problem when your best season was your rookie season.


Or the first time you miss significant time with an injury, your team wins a SB without you. At which point you whine, elect to skip team related festivities, appearances, etc.

Total dick.
I'm willing to forgive  
Dr. D : 1/10/2018 9:05 pm : link
and chalk his behavior up to immaturity and if I'm not mistaken, he didn't have a father growing up for guidance.

His behavior and antics were counter productive and I don't know if we would've won it in '07 with him active, but I wish him well.
Shockley...  
Kev in Cali : 1/10/2018 9:44 pm : link
was a pretty awesome player. Loved the fire inside of him.
RE: RE: Shockey should be an all time Giant.  
djm : 1/10/2018 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13782139 Modus Operandi said:
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But, that empty suit slug treated him like dick. It would have been something if he slugged that puke GM.



Yuou are, bar none, among the dumbest new
posters on BBI.

As is typical for guys who used to play Here, Shockeys contributions to the franchise are way overstated.

He was a bonehead and played like a bonehead. Everything that posters here accuse OBJ of doing, being a diva, a cancer, a distraction, Shockey was. He reveled in it. Fuck him.


Actually his play and contributions here are understated by many and your take of shockey is downright sad. When shockey was a Giant the team went to the playoffs 4 out of the 6 seasons he played here. He was a cancer? Oh really. When's the last time time this franchise went to the playoffs 4-6 seasons? Only one other time in our lifetime. 84-89.

Cancer my ass.
He was a baby at times  
djm : 1/10/2018 10:45 pm : link
And he probably wore out his welcome. But it's a stretch to call the guy a cancer.

Player bitched in the huddle? Uh Jerry rice used to eviserate Joe Montana and Steve young. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong but many pass catchers do it.

How effective was the offense when shockey played here? How consistent? Did the player want it? Did the player play through countless injuries?

But yea, a former teammate ripped him in a power game. So there is that.
will always love Shockey  
Jints in Carolina : 1/10/2018 11:54 pm : link
i hope he is ok.
Why are we attributing team accomplishments to one guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2018 12:00 am : link
Yeah, they made the playoffs four of 6 years he was on the roster. They should have. They were good teams. It's not like he carried them there. He was a part of good team, not the reason for their achievement. If anything, you can make that argument for Barber, not Shockey. And he was probably the third best offensive player once they got Plaxico.
And yeah, cancer can be argued for.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2018 12:02 am : link
Any time you have a player telling the reporters on camera that your own team got outcoached.
He got a little  
Glover : 1/11/2018 7:20 am : link
Bug for his britches, and it was time for him to go wgen he went. Thats about all. I like him more than Tiki Barber, but they had similar negative traits.
RE: RE: Shockey should be an all time Giant.  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2018 8:26 am : link
In comment 13782139 Modus Operandi said:
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But, that empty suit slug treated him like dick. It would have been something if he slugged that puke GM.



Yuou are, bar none, among the dumbest new
posters on BBI.

As is typical for guys who used to play Here, Shockeys contributions to the franchise are way overstated.

He was a bonehead and played like a bonehead. Everything that posters here accuse OBJ of doing, being a diva, a cancer, a distraction, Shockey was. He reveled in it. Fuck him.


Well put. Million $$ talent, 5 cent head. An idiot in every way. The team shrink was dead against drafting him. That said, I hate to see yet another gy potentially with CTE or another form of brain damage.
RE: RE: Shockey should be an all time Giant.  
I love liverwurst : 1/11/2018 8:41 am : link
In comment 13782139 Modus Operandi said:
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But, that empty suit slug treated him like dick. It would have been something if he slugged that puke GM.



Yuou are, bar none, among the dumbest new
posters on BBI.

As is typical for guys who used to play Here, Shockeys contributions to the franchise are way overstated.

He was a bonehead and played like a bonehead. Everything that posters here accuse OBJ of doing, being a diva, a cancer, a distraction, Shockey was. He reveled in it. Fuck him.


Wow, just wow!! I didn't know you had it in you Modus? Truer words couldn't have been said. The final straw for me was at the Green Bay game when Coughlin didn't hear the call and Shockey pulled Coughlins head set off his ears and gave him the answer, then snapped it back on his head. MAGA
RE: Why are we attributing team accomplishments to one guy  
djm : 1/11/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 13782384 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Yeah, they made the playoffs four of 6 years he was on the roster. They should have. They were good teams. It's not like he carried them there. He was a part of good team, not the reason for their achievement. If anything, you can make that argument for Barber, not Shockey. And he was probably the third best offensive player once they got Plaxico.


So we can't attribute team accomplishments to one guy but we can attribute a team's successful playoff run to a player's absence? No. We can't really do either. We can only go by what our eyes told us when watching the team play. Shockey was a good player who helped the team win games.

my point is  
djm : 1/11/2018 10:05 am : link
if the guy was a cancer the team isn't winning as much as the Giants won with Shockey. The Giants won with Shockey. You guys love a villain. Giants fans were chanting Tiki sucks at the super bowl 42 parade. Best moment in franchise history and fans are bashing a former player who helped the team win games. It's weird. Fans love to find fault with players and Shockey certainly had a few. But saying the guy was a cancer is a stretch. You're citing incident that happened but don't necessarily correlate to losing. Shockey yelled at Eli. Ok fine. Does that mean he hindered Eli? Did Eli really play that much better after Shockey got hurt? He played like Shit in the game Shockey did her hurt. Eli had played well at times before WITH Shockey. After the injury and into the playoffs Eli cut down on the INTs. Correlation? Maybe...and I will be the first to say you shouldn't change one thing about that run. Maybe his injury was a blessing...but the guy still helped this team win games throughout his tenure here.
the SF playoff debacle typified Shockey. On the surface, a big game.  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2018 10:05 am : link
7 catches, 68 yards, 1 TD. But look deeper:

*gets in a fight with fans throwing soda and ice into the crowd during the game
*after that drops a SURE TD right in his hands that would have iced the game. this is conveniently forgotten becuase of the officiating mess on the last play.

from ESPN:
Jeremy Shockey, the Giants' brash rookie tight end, taunted the 49ers' sideline after just his second reception -- and threw ice water in the direction of heckling fans in a moment of frustration on the New York sideline.

But Shockey, who had seven catches for 68 yards, dropped a potential TD pass late in the third quarter, forcing New York to kick a field goal.

Million $$ talent, 5 cent head.
Garcia, 49ers erase 24-point deficit - ( New Window )
It's a scary tweet  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/11/2018 10:06 am : link
as he took a pounding during his career and I truly hope he gets the help he needs. I would be terrified if I were in his position.

It feels a bit wrong to disparage the guy while he's going through a scary health situation as a result of the sport, but this thread has turned more into a discussion of his time as a Giant.

In that regard, I couldn't agree more with the notion that he was everything (in a bad way) that people incorrectly say Odell is.

Shockey was an all-world talent who laid it all out on the field, but he was a malcontent who showed up the team and the quarterback on several occasions. He would run his own routes, he would skip the huddle, and he would make countless obvious gestures indication fault with his teammates. The team was better off without him because if there isn't trust between the QB and a WR/TE, particuarly in the type of offense GIlbride ran, then it will only lead to disaster.

People hate Shockey?  
Beezer : 1/11/2018 10:06 am : link
Huh.

Maybe it's more that a lot of people just thought he was a dumbass at times. Might not be able to find a Giants fan who didn't appreciate his talent and grit.
Steve Smith got hurt in 2011  
djm : 1/11/2018 10:09 am : link
was his injury a blessing in disguise? It led to Victor Cruz.

See how easy that is? Give credit to KEvin Boss for EMERGING when Shockey got hurt. Maybe that's the biggest thing to take from Shockey's injury because I have new for all of you, if Boss doesn't emerge, we aren't winning super bowl 42 if some slob is playing TE. We didn't miss Shockey because of Boss.
RE: People hate Shockey?  
djm : 1/11/2018 10:10 am : link
In comment 13782696 Beezer said:
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Huh.

Maybe it's more that a lot of people just thought he was a dumbass at times. Might not be able to find a Giants fan who didn't appreciate his talent and grit.


There are people on this thread saying the guy was total shit and a team cancer.
I think there's one person here who called him a cancer  
Dr. D : 1/11/2018 10:48 am : link
I didn't. But it was pretty clear that he and Eli were often "not on the same page". It seemed many INTs and incompletions resulted when Eli targeted where Shockey was supposed to be. Gilbride's O was complicated and Shockey seemed to run his own routes too often.

It was also clear that Shockey often showed up Eli, who at the time was still a young QB, possibly struggling with confidence. I think that's what O'Hara was referencing and I'll take his word for it over anyone on BBI. And he probably also demanded the ball even when he was covered.

That doesn't mean I hate him (I don't hate anyone). I wish him well.
RE: RE: People hate Shockey?  
Beezer : 1/11/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 13782706 djm said:
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Huh.

Maybe it's more that a lot of people just thought he was a dumbass at times. Might not be able to find a Giants fan who didn't appreciate his talent and grit.



There are people on this thread saying the guy was total shit and a team cancer.


Yeah, I see that. But is it true?

I wish he'd handled himself a bit better. But I've always had the impression he's pretty well liked by fans, overall.
Dr. D  
Beezer : 1/11/2018 10:51 am : link
answered.
oh right  
djm : 1/11/2018 11:17 am : link
he threw ice on a fan once. And he did drop that pass. Let's blame Shockey for that loss. Not the D. Not the coaching. Blame the TE who caught 7 passes because he dropped a relatively "easy" pass. It wasn't that easy...but he should have caught it.

Pathetic.
still got his jersey  
spike : 1/11/2018 11:17 am : link
#80
RE: my point is  
fireitup77 : 1/11/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13782690 djm said:
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if the guy was a cancer the team isn't winning as much as the Giants won with Shockey. The Giants won with Shockey. You guys love a villain. Giants fans were chanting Tiki sucks at the super bowl 42 parade. Best moment in franchise history and fans are bashing a former player who helped the team win games. It's weird. Fans love to find fault with players and Shockey certainly had a few. But saying the guy was a cancer is a stretch. You're citing incident that happened but don't necessarily correlate to losing. Shockey yelled at Eli. Ok fine. Does that mean he hindered Eli? Did Eli really play that much better after Shockey got hurt? He played like Shit in the game Shockey did her hurt. Eli had played well at times before WITH Shockey. After the injury and into the playoffs Eli cut down on the INTs. Correlation? Maybe...and I will be the first to say you shouldn't change one thing about that run. Maybe his injury was a blessing...but the guy still helped this team win games throughout his tenure here.


Do you have a tape of the Tiki sucks chant? I was there and heard no such chant.
RE: oh right  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13782877 djm said:
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he threw ice on a fan once. And he did drop that pass. Let's blame Shockey for that loss. Not the D. Not the coaching. Blame the TE who caught 7 passes because he dropped a relatively "easy" pass. It wasn't that easy...but he should have caught it.

Pathetic.


no, unflinching apologists are pathetic. take the poster off your ceiling for a minute. Me and most people here have acknowledged his great talent along with his negatives and hope that his health is not in jeopardy. I guess all the examples of poor route running, not knowing the plays, not joining the huddle, running his own routes, missing the checks to shift the route tree, immature, self absorbed behavior, showing up teammates, none of that matters.

The shame of it is he should have and easily could have had a much better career here and possibly be a HOFer. I wish it would have worked out that way.
RE: Don't understand the hate for Shockey  
Racer : 1/11/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13782086 djstat said:
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Passionate football player.


Other than being dumb as a f'g post, running the wrong routes according to many NFL insiders, and looking like he was running out of a burning building when he was at full speed, I thought he was a good player overall and his passion and toughness were admirable.
I don't think it's completely a coincidence  
Dr. D : 1/11/2018 12:35 pm : link
that Eli's completion % jumped pretty significantly (56% to 60.3%) and INTs decreased significantly (20 to 10) between 2007 and 2008. This improvement started towards the end of '07 and carried through the playoffs.

Not saying it was all Shockey, and some of the INTs are on Eli, but I would bet that a majority of Eli's INTs through his career occurred when targeting Shockey and later, Reuben Randall. They were the two we heard most often as "not being on the same page with Eli", i.e., they ran the wrong route.
RE: Steve Smith got hurt in 2011  
Dr. D : 1/11/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13782704 djm said:
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was his injury a blessing in disguise? It led to Victor Cruz.


Steve Smith has nothing to do with Shockey. It's not even close to a good analogy.

Steve Smith didn't have a reputation of frequently running the wrong routes, resulting in INTs and incompletions. And he never showed up Eli. He just did his job.

If Shockey behaved and did his job like Smith did (kept his mouth shut, ran the correct routes, caught the ball when he was targeted, didn't yell at the QB to throw him the ball even when he was well covered, etc.), there would be no discussion here.

RE: RE: Why are we attributing team accomplishments to one guy  
Modus Operandi : 1/11/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13782665 djm said:
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Yeah, they made the playoffs four of 6 years he was on the roster. They should have. They were good teams. It's not like he carried them there. He was a part of good team, not the reason for their achievement. If anything, you can make that argument for Barber, not Shockey. And he was probably the third best offensive player once they got Plaxico.



So we can't attribute team accomplishments to one guy but we can attribute a team's successful playoff run to a player's absence? No. We can't really do either. We can only go by what our eyes told us when watching the team play. Shockey was a good player who helped the team win games.


You have that correct. In one instance, Shockey is a contributor on one side of the ball. He wasn't a QB. He was a good two-way TE who other teams had to account for. Hardly a game breaker.

On the other hand, he goes down in '07 and a fifth round draft pick comes in and the team doesn't miss a beat. That same TE went on to put up numbers comparable to Shockey for the next three seasons after Shockey is traded.

Shockey's best year was his first. He had issues with drops (something OBJ gets killed for), had several on and off-the-field incidents what can at best be characterized as immature. At worst, and if you believe the stories about him killing Eli, a cancer.

I get. You loved #80. You liked the gold locks. But he wasn't Tony Gonzalez. He wasn't Antonio Gates.
RE: RE: People hate Shockey?  
Modus Operandi : 1/11/2018 12:49 pm : link
In comment 13782706 djm said:
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Huh.

Maybe it's more that a lot of people just thought he was a dumbass at times. Might not be able to find a Giants fan who didn't appreciate his talent and grit.



There are people on this thread saying the guy was total shit and a team cancer.


Now you're just intentionally being obtuse.

Please cite an instance on this thread where anyone said Shockey was "total shit". Go ahead.
Shockey developed another issue  
mrvax : 1/11/2018 1:00 pm : link
After about his first 2 years, he would leap up high in the air to catch passes he did not have to leave his feet for. This resulted in less YAC.
RE: oh right  
Jints in Carolina : 1/11/2018 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13782877 djm said:
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he threw ice on a fan once. And he did drop that pass. Let's blame Shockey for that loss. Not the D. Not the coaching. Blame the TE who caught 7 passes because he dropped a relatively "easy" pass. It wasn't that easy...but he should have caught it.

Pathetic.


Right? It's Shockey's fault the Giants blew a 38-14 lead??!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
Like Beckham, Shockey would've been a PERFECT Cowboy...  
x meadowlander : 1/11/2018 3:51 pm : link
...still - like Beckham, as infuriating as Shock could be, there were more good moments than bad.

That said, I wouldn't wish the brain trauma shit on my worst enemy.

Hope he gets well.
RE: RE: I believe it.  
Reale01 : 1/11/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13782253 Modus Operandi said:
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Let's face it, you know there's a problem when your best season was your rookie season.



Or the first time you miss significant time with an injury, your team wins a SB without you. At which point you whine, elect to skip team related festivities, appearances, etc.

Total dick.


Giants - Shockey - Tiki = Superbowl
Shockey wanted to have a Threesome  
I love liverwurst : 1/11/2018 5:57 pm : link
With a mother and her twin daughters
I owned two Jeremy Shockey jerseys growing up.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/11/2018 7:18 pm : link
So I'm saying this as someone who used to root for him and hopes he's going to be okay

A) He never lived up to his promise as football player. He was good, not great.
B) He did dumb stuff, some of which was detrimental to the team in real and meaningful ways. To the point where the Giants got rid of him. It's a long time ago, but some of us remember the disaster of a season 2006 was. That team had super bowl expectations too, and the locker room became a dumpster fire of Shockey calling out coaches for being outcoached and daring writers to 'print that' after losses, Tiki anonymously leaking his frustration at not getting the ball more, and Strahan spitting a PBJ sandwich at reporters.
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