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Success of McDaniel's or Patricia as Head Coach

BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/11/2018 11:40 am
Hinges on the candidate actually being themselves and not trying to be BB 2.0

McDaniel's failed because he came in at 30 something years old and acted like he was BB.

I think either coach will be successful if they come in and win them over with their own unique personality. They need to gain trust in the team before they go full Bill.
Also why Todd Haley failed in KC  
djstat : 1/11/2018 11:46 am : link
He tried to be Bill Parcells version II
but Haley seems to be despised, or at least deeply disliked  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2018 11:50 am : link
everywhere he goes.
Love the fact that Patricia is an  
Sec 103 : 1/11/2018 11:53 am : link
RPI grad
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/11/2018 11:59 am : link
Mcdaniel's came into Denver and made two big moves that the media feasted on.

He traded Cutler for a 1st and a 3rd, and benched pro bowler Brandon Marshall for disciplinary reasons. Looking back with hindsight these unpopular moves were probably the right call.

He got caught video taping a 49er practice. Wonder where he learned that?

He'd be kind of walking into a similar situation here. The ownership has set him up to take a beating if he decides to move on from fan favorite Eli. He'll also be handling a total diva WR in Odell, who just can't seem to get under control and cost the giant's penalties.

Would he put up with that after how he handled Marshall? Marshall was benched for being late to physical therapy, amongst other things of that nature, while Odell's problems only appear on the field. So they're not totally similar.

At the end of the day, talent wins. After trading Cutler, he was hitched to Kyle Orton. Not going to go far with him with any coach.
Imo Patricia seems to have a more down to earth approach  
larryflower37 : 1/11/2018 11:59 am : link
And is more emotional than Belichick.
McDaniels has that smug demeanor that rubs everyone wrong with Belichick.

I would love to have McDaniels for how creative he is offensively but I think he might lose the team.
Patricia is a players coach and I think will turn this defense around quickly. My fear is building a staff
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/11/2018 12:08 pm : link
If Mcdaniel's is anything like his stint in Denver, it might be best to avoid coaching the Gmen.

He's not afraid to make the big, unpopular move. Trading Cutler, benching Marshall, etc.

Giant's ownership caved and reversed the big move when faced with the media/fan backlash.

No to both  
RIZZBIZZ : 1/11/2018 1:16 pm : link
Romeo crennel/ Charlie Weiss Part II
I don't have much faith in both as well.  
prdave73 : 1/11/2018 2:08 pm : link
I just don't see it in Patricia, I could be wrong. McDaniel's as well but I think 2nd time might be better. This Giants team needs a strong personalty like BB or Coughlin, they don't need a players coach. Last thing this team needs is a players coach.
Don't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2018 2:13 pm : link
be so sure McDaniels is more well liked than Haley:

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but Haley seems to be despised, or at least deeply disliked
Victor in CT : 11:50 am : link : reply
everywhere he goes.


There's an article out there that tries to fluff up McDaniels by saying he was constantly in the office working as the Rams OC while the rest of the staff went home or ignored their duties. You'd have been hard-pressed to find a person in that building who liked working with him.

The problem I have, based on current feedback, is that seeing him as a leader who gets respect would be a miracle.
if a team wins  
family progtitioner : 1/11/2018 2:19 pm : link
all this stuff is ignored. Just look at Mcadoo last year
yeah, everywhere Haley has coached, both as OC and HC  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2018 2:21 pm : link
there have been numerous reports that players couldn't stand him.
RE: Don't..  
Victor in CT : 1/11/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13783237 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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be so sure McDaniels is more well liked than Haley:



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but Haley seems to be despised, or at least deeply disliked
Victor in CT : 11:50 am : link : reply
everywhere he goes.



There's an article out there that tries to fluff up McDaniels by saying he was constantly in the office working as the Rams OC while the rest of the staff went home or ignored their duties. You'd have been hard-pressed to find a person in that building who liked working with him.

The problem I have, based on current feedback, is that seeing him as a leader who gets respect would be a miracle.


I agree with you. I didn't mean to imply that I thought McDaniels should be the guy. I do not want him at all. Just remembering stuff about Haley.
RE: Love the fact that Patricia is an  
Tommy Trenton : 1/11/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13782960 Sec 103 said:
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RPI grad

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