While Cole is an overpriced crapshoot, we know that Nova can pitch here. He pitches a lot of innings and his ERA was a little over 4 last year. He may be only a #4 or #5 but thats really all we need. The rotation as its stands is CC, Tanaka, Severino, Gray and Montgomery. If Cole comes here who drops out ? With Nova, he can be made the long man if the top 5 stay healthy. Nova is under $10 mil a year and has only a couple of years left on his contract.
But I'd really rather not give up anything to get a 5th starter. We'd be better of getting a look at Adams imo.
Let's see if Darvish takes a discount otherwise I'm good
Sevy, Tanaka, Gray, Cc, Monty plus some live arms in the minors.. Cessa is gonna be a stud long man imo. Or the new chad green
If you don't think Severino is a #1, then by your standards there are maybe 5 of them total in all of MLB.
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#1 in that group? There is nobody.
If you don't think Severino is a #1, then by your standards there are maybe 5 of them total in all of MLB.
What was Tanaka's ERA in the Post Season? 0.90? That may be worthy of being called lock down, when you do it against the best.....
That's 2.
I think with our offense, he could be really good and get the run support. Also, with our bullpen depth, he could pitch less innings and not have to go through the order a third time around, where he usually loses it.
In addition, his controllability is much better than Cole. Just sucks the asking price is so high.
It almost makes me wonder of the real rational behind the proposed deal is that Cashman has decided that Frazier is not that good and is looking to dump him.
He’s given over 200 innings 3 years straight and K’s have been nice.
Check his stats first 2 times through the lineup. I know this doesn’t tell the whole story, but if he can go 6 per game, he would be more effective.
I am not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?
In comment 13783372 Phil in LA said:
I am not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?
In comment 13783372 Phil in LA said:
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Be Manny and Tanaka and 2 of 3 contracts moved.
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Thank you, makes perfect sense. Much appreciated.
In comment 13783470 Stan in LA said:
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I am not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?
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Be Manny and Tanaka and 2 of 3 contracts moved.
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UPDATE: I think the time when teams and players start approaching arbitration dates is nigh, so we could see some of these younger guys like Machado and Cole traded in the next few days. I happen to think the Yanks have turned attention to Manny, and moving another salary to make room for a free agent starter, rather than making one trade for Manny and then another for Cole or someone. I think they'll have to move Ellsbury (please!) or Gardy or Robertson to make room for Manny's arb salary as well as what they'd need to sign Darvish or whomever. Of course, Gardy and Robertson are true Yanks, so let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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I agree.
With that said, I think that the Yanks might actually be targeting Machado as a mid-season acquisition. I DO think Machado gets traded- just not to the Yanks. I think the O's will do their best to make sure he ends up in the NL so they don't have to deal with having him come to Baltimore during the season.
Just hypothetically, let's say that the O's trade Machado to the DBacks this winter. If the DBacks are struggling or they are on the margins of the race, the Yanks could come in and "overpay" in a trade for Machado.
Since Machado is a FA after 2018, the O's best return is likely 2 good players or prospects. The Yanks could come back to that team in July and offer two options: 1) take Didi and a very good prospect for Machado, or 2) take Frazier and a top SP prospect for Machado.
Both of those offers would probably exceed whatever the other team originally paid for Machado- and allow them to come out ahead overall. The Yanks have the depth to absorb a prospect expensive trade like that.
The Yanks might have to make a vet salary dump deal to fit Machado under the luxury tax line even in a mid-season trade, but they probably would do that deal every time.
So I think the Yanks have taken the pieces they were offering to the Pirates, maybe plus more pitching, to the O's. The Yanks can make more room for Darvish, if they need to and still stay under. The Pirates might have overplayed their hand.
I have no doubt the Yankees put the best trade offer on the table.