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Schwartz: Wilks out of contention; Patricia, McDanials or

shyster : 1/11/2018 6:17 pm
Shurmer will get the nod.

I take it this presumes NYG will have a choice of at least one of these three ahead of the other teams in contention (Lions, Indy, Cards).
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If it’s those 3, my bet is it’s either Patricia or Shurmur  
The_Boss : 1/11/2018 6:19 pm : link
I think McDaniels is destined for Indy like many believe.
Wow  
Rflairr : 1/11/2018 6:21 pm : link
I hope they don't hire Shurmur over McDaniels. Jeesh
I heard that Wilks wanted to fire Tom Quinn...  
kinard : 1/11/2018 6:30 pm : link
.. and that was the deal-breaker for him (I kid).
RE: I heard that Wilks wanted to fire Tom Quinn...  
mfsd : 1/11/2018 6:32 pm : link
In comment 13783731 kinard said:
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.. and that was the deal-breaker for him (I kid).


Hehe well played
So much for all the Wilks talk..  
Sean : 1/11/2018 6:37 pm : link
& the idea that this process has been a sham. I can’t see McDaniels coming here with the organizational structure the way it is.
Would  
Breeze_94 : 1/11/2018 6:37 pm : link
Not mind either of these 3 but I’m relieved Spags isn’t being considered. I was worried the Giants would go “the Giants way” and promote him out of left field.
MP, Please.  
Ryan in Albany : 1/11/2018 6:39 pm : link
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Assuming McD goes to Indy  
Breeze_94 : 1/11/2018 6:39 pm : link
It really comes down to- are you drafting and developing a QB? I’d go Shurmur.
Shurmer for me  
jeff57 : 1/11/2018 6:44 pm : link
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Absolutely don't want McDaniels...  
GiantFanInTX : 1/11/2018 6:45 pm : link
I'll gladly take Patricia. I wonder what the deal breaker was with Wilks...
Note this  
jeff57 : 1/11/2018 6:46 pm : link
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This rule, if not made to be broken, exists to be circumvented. If the Giants want McDaniels, Patricia or Shurmur they can come to an unofficial agreement in the coming days — most likely after the games this weekend. Word got out last year that the 49ers decided to hire Kyle Shanahan, the Falcons’ offensive coordinator, as the Falcons were making their run to the Super Bowl. Three years ago, it was a poorly kept secret Dan Quinn was getting the Falcons’ head-coaching job while he was involved in the postseason as the Seahawks’ defensive coordinator.
RE: Absolutely don't want McDaniels...  
jeff57 : 1/11/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13783753 GiantFanInTX said:
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I'll gladly take Patricia. I wonder what the deal breaker was with Wilks...


Lack of head coaching or long-term coordinating experience.
Wow I am a bit surprised  
Jay on the Island : 1/11/2018 6:48 pm : link
I thought it would be either Wilks or Shurmur. Out of those three I have to think Shurmur is the choice.
Breeze  
joeinpa : 1/11/2018 6:51 pm : link
Giants way?

I have no idea what that means
All i know is  
Jarvis : 1/11/2018 6:52 pm : link
a Vikings vs Patriots Super Bowl would be epic....on BBI
RE: Breeze  
giantsfaninphilly : 1/11/2018 6:53 pm : link
In comment 13783764 joeinpa said:
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Giants way?

I have no idea what that means


I think it meant someone who was in or who had been within the organization at some point.
Don't know much about Shurmer  
David B. : 1/11/2018 6:56 pm : link
But Patricia seems like he'd be a solid choice.
I'll take Patricia. Shurmur,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2018 6:58 pm : link
& McDaniels in that order.
RE: RE: Absolutely don't want McDaniels...  
CGiants07 : 1/11/2018 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13783760 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13783753 GiantFanInTX said:


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I'll gladly take Patricia. I wonder what the deal breaker was with Wilks...



Lack of head coaching or long-term coordinating experience.


to much like macadoo
i like either pats  
CGiants07 : 1/11/2018 7:01 pm : link
coordinator before shurmur especially as if shurmur is the guy i wouldnt be shocked if spags would be d coordinator
What does  
old man : 1/11/2018 7:05 pm : link
Jim Schwartz know about what the Giants are doing? He didn't even get an interview! :-).
Feel like Schwartz is getting played by someone  
OdellBeckhamJr : 1/11/2018 7:06 pm : link
Wilks will be named HC within the hour
RE: Breeze  
Breeze_94 : 1/11/2018 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13783764 joeinpa said:
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Giants way?

I have no idea what that means


Conservative approach- going with a familiar face instead of shaking things up and making "wholesale changes" as Mara said they would.

Hiring old friend Gettleman= the Giants way
Bringing back former DC Spags for a 2nd tour, promoting McAdoo to Head Coach etc etc.
Still Wilks then Shurmur  
Peppers : 1/11/2018 7:12 pm : link
I was told don't believe what you read. These beats are in the 11th hour. Its time they make a guess.

Wilks is still the guy everyone is waiting on. That domino falls then we'll know the rest. We should know sometime tomorrow.

Patricia to Detroit is the consensus

AND

Nobody wants McDaniels.. Except maybe the Titans. No one knows what they are doing, there's still belief Mularkey will be fired.
If  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 1/11/2018 7:18 pm : link
Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?
..  
BeckShepEli : 1/11/2018 7:20 pm : link
Schwartz is not going to report this on a limb. Paul Schwartz is a respectable beat writer. I know its crazy to believe but he has more info than people on this board.
Plan B. Smith.  
Ivan15 : 1/11/2018 7:23 pm : link
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RE: Still Wilks then Shurmur  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13783811 Peppers said:
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I was told don't believe what you read. These beats are in the 11th hour. Its time they make a guess.

Wilks is still the guy everyone is waiting on. That domino falls then we'll know the rest. We should know sometime tomorrow.

Patricia to Detroit is the consensus

AND

Nobody wants McDaniels.. Except maybe the Titans. No one knows what they are doing, there's still belief Mularkey will be fired.


These sports writers are all trying to stake a claim with their "inside" information. Everyone here probably has as good as guess as a they do.

I'd say it's safe bet to eliminate Spags and Studeville. Beyond those two, NOBODY knows for certain. Wilks is the only viable candidate that can sign now until MInn and NE are eliminated.
I'd be fine with any of these three.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/11/2018 7:28 pm : link
I love some of the dopes in here trying to make believe their guy is still in it, though.
RE: I heard that Wilks wanted to fire Tom Quinn...  
Snacks : 1/11/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13783731 kinard said:
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.. and that was the deal-breaker for him (I kid).


LMAO
if anything taken from getts hire presser  
micky : 1/11/2018 7:35 pm : link
and taken as word, he sound more on defensive minded guy..which would lead to thinking Patricia.

boston/NE area guys getts and Patricia
RE: If  
Blue21 : 1/11/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13783827 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?



Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.
RE: RE: If  
micky : 1/11/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13783877 Blue21 said:
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In comment 13783827 Tittle 9 20 64 said:


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Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?




Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.


umm Wilkes?
Did I read correctly that Shurmer won 9 games during his two-year  
Jimmy Googs : 1/11/2018 7:40 pm : link
stint as the Cleveland Head Coach?

We should absolutely hire him as that is like going 27-5 on any other team in the NFL...
RE: if anything taken from getts hire presser  
RDJR : 1/11/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13783871 micky said:
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and taken as word, he sound more on defensive minded guy..which would lead to thinking Patricia.

boston/NE area guys getts and Patricia


Patricia grew up in Central NY, not a Boston/NE guy other than his most recent job location.
Belichek in the mix!!!!!  
Reale01 : 1/11/2018 7:49 pm : link
This is great news! Wilks may have been the choice, but he told the Giants that he had to make a decision this week. McDaniels is going to Indy. Patricia was either the first choice or a very close second. MP is willing to wait it out til end of season because he knows he will get the Pats job if BB comes here and the Giants job if BB stays put.

Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.

The dream lives!
RE: Belichek in the mix!!!!!  
shyster : 1/11/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13783896 Reale01 said:
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Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.



I've been reading Dave Birkett for Lions' updates and he reports that, while Lions did originally request an interview with Wilks, none has taken place and none is scheduled.

Mike Vrabel might be Detroit's Plan B,
Guys...  
BleedBlue : 1/11/2018 8:01 pm : link
Not saying wilks is still in discussion...but don't you think he is just making this assumption because we haven't signed him and he is available? Like in other words, he believes he is out because the Giants don't love him and are waiting
RE: RE: RE: If  
Blue21 : 1/11/2018 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13783879 micky said:
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In comment 13783877 Blue21 said:


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In comment 13783827 Tittle 9 20 64 said:


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Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?




Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.



umm Wilkes?


The article makes no sense because it rules out Wilks. If the other three go somewhere else what is plan B?
Shumur  
Thinblueline : 1/11/2018 8:02 pm : link
Gets my vote.... with young QB's in our future it would only make sense.. My concern what offensive and defensive coordinators come with him?
RE: Belichek in the mix!!!!!  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2018 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13783896 Reale01 said:
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This is great news! Wilks may have been the choice, but he told the Giants that he had to make a decision this week. McDaniels is going to Indy. Patricia was either the first choice or a very close second. MP is willing to wait it out til end of season because he knows he will get the Pats job if BB comes here and the Giants job if BB stays put.

Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.

The dream lives!


Doubtful
Should the failures of every Pats coordinator hired since Belichick  
mattnyg05 : 1/11/2018 8:09 pm : link
Worry us at all? Or do we just toss that out?

-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)

Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.
Shurmur better not think he’s bringing  
Chris684 : 1/11/2018 8:09 pm : link
Keenum in here if he’s hired.

No way Mara and Gettleman are that dumb.
RE: Guys...  
shyster : 1/11/2018 8:10 pm : link
In comment 13783915 BleedBlue said:
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Not saying wilks is still in discussion...but don't you think he is just making this assumption because we haven't signed him and he is available? Like in other words, he believes he is out because the Giants don't love him and are waiting


Unless you think Schwartz is not telling the truth, no, he's not just making an assumption:

"Steve Wilks, the Panthers’ defensive coordinator, did not make the cut after the first round of interviews, according to someone with knowledge of the Giants’ thinking."

As for the possibility of NYG being left with no one, they'll figure out something. Maybe Jim Schwartz.

As other thread on board mentions, Rapoport now saying Wilks could return to Carolina as DC. He's not interviewing with Colts and, as I mentioned above, his interview with Lions never happened either.
With Shumur  
Thinblueline : 1/11/2018 8:10 pm : link
We would prob keep Spags as DC.
...  
BleedBlue : 1/11/2018 8:15 pm : link
Don't want spags here as DC....give me Patricia if that's the case...


Fuck it...

Sign Patricia call Kraft after they get knocked out tell him yo BB hates you...I'll ship you Patricia and a 2019 first rounder for BB....all parties will most likely agree...Patricia doesn't have to leave NE and gets a HC gig. BB gets to come home. All is well...

Make it happen Mara!
Wonder if Kraft told  
Dankbeerman : 1/11/2018 8:18 pm : link
McDainels to hang on.

There would be crazy amount of tension if the there were 3 teams waiting on the pats fill their openings. wonder if someone hets scared and makes a reaction move.

Would Spags stick as DC with Shurmer?
Shurmur would guarantee an Eli exit...  
Emlen'sGremlins : 1/11/2018 8:20 pm : link
....with Case Keenum as our new starter.
RE: Shurmur would guarantee an Eli exit...  
BleedBlue : 1/11/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13783955 Emlen'sGremlins said:
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....with Case Keenum as our new starter.


Doubt that. KEENUM isn't good...I don't get why shurmur is ball riding him
Please stop it..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2018 8:22 pm : link
with the ridiculous shit that Shurmur is taking Keenum with him wherever he goes.
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