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Schwartz: Wilks out of contention; Patricia, McDanials or

shyster : 1/11/2018 6:17 pm
Shurmer will get the nod.

I take it this presumes NYG will have a choice of at least one of these three ahead of the other teams in contention (Lions, Indy, Cards).
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RE: Please stop it..  
jeff57 : 1/11/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13783963 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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with the ridiculous shit that Shurmur is taking Keenum with him wherever he goes.


Where do people come up with this? It’s like a kids’ game of telephone.
RE: Please stop it..  
BleedBlue : 1/11/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13783963 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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with the ridiculous shit that Shurmur is taking Keenum with him wherever he goes.


I agree
RE: Please stop it..  
GFAN52 : 1/11/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13783963 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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with the ridiculous shit that Shurmur is taking Keenum with him wherever he goes.


That has no chance in hell of happening.
Strange  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/11/2018 9:26 pm : link
BBI tells me that McDaniels isn't a real candidate.

Must be the Giants dont read BBI eh?
RE: I'd be fine with any of these three.  
djm : 1/11/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13783855 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I love some of the dopes in here trying to make believe their guy is still in it, though.


No one is a bigger dope than me. I'm still playing make believe that belichick is still in it. Go big or go home.
Lets go Patricia  
GiantTuff1 : 1/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
Send us a bat signal Gmen!

If not MP, then BB, JM, PS.

RE: Should the failures of every Pats coordinator hired since Belichick  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2018 12:37 am : link
In comment 13783934 mattnyg05 said:
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Worry us at all? Or do we just toss that out?

-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)

Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.


Charlie Weis was a Parcells assistant for nine years. Romeo Crennell was a Parcells assistant from 1981 to 1999. To say they're 'Belichick guys' is pretty inaccurate.


If we're pointing out the assistants that failed, let's also mention the ones that didn't. Nick Saban was Belichick's DC for four years before moving on to become an incredible winner. Kirk Ferentz became a good head coach as well.
They are in college!  
GoDeep13 : 1/12/2018 12:54 am : link
That formula DOES. NOT. WORK. IN. THE. NFL. Saban has said it. Urban Meyer has said it. Gus Malzahn has said it. What Saban and Ferentz do in college doesn’t work in the NFL. Belichick does something similar but he can only do that because he’s given FULL CONTROL OF THE ROSTER. None of Bill’s guys are gonna get that anywhere because they don’t have the resume Bill does. Even then. Bill doesn’t teach his coaches.
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Fully agree there's a big difference in College and pro football.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2018 1:07 am : link
The statement was that all of Belichick's assistants have failed. They haven't not, regardless of one's opinion of the prestige of college football.
Sorry  
mattnyg05 : 1/12/2018 6:01 am : link
Didn’t think I had to clarify that but yes, I did mean in the NFL since the Giants do play in the NFL.

I don’t hate Patricia, he seems like a good hire, but the Patriots coaching tree has been either mediocre or stinky in the NFL. It’s a fact. Belichick is one of the greatest coaches of all time and Brady is arguably the greatest QB. One has to wonder exactly how much the coordinators matter on that team. It’s something to think about.
A friend of mine high in the Pats organization  
CT Charlie : 1/12/2018 10:19 am : link
said BB wants to retire and become CEO of TB12.
RE: RE: Breeze  
Dr. D : 1/12/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13783798 Breeze_94 said:
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In comment 13783764 joeinpa said:


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Giants way?


Hiring old friend Gettleman= the Giants way
Bringing back former DC Spags for a 2nd tour, promoting McAdoo to Head Coach etc etc.


McAdoo had absolutely no connection to the Giants prior to 2014. Was that a good thing?

And is promoting someone considered to be a hot young coordinator to HC, that unusual?
Wait a second  
PaulN : 1/12/2018 3:00 pm : link
BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.
RE: Wait a second  
Peppers : 1/12/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13784958 PaulN said:
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BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.



Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..

Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.

As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.

For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.

Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.
RE: RE: Wait a second  
Peppers : 1/14/2018 9:54 am : link
In comment 13785071 Peppers said:
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In comment 13784958 PaulN said:


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BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.




Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..

Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.

As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.

For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.

Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.


And there you have it. Schefter speaks.
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