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What style is better suited for an NFL HC?

BestFeature : 1/12/2018 12:31 am
Disciplinarian or players' coach?

Seems like most all time great HCs are disciplinarian types. But there are some good players coaches. Sounds like Pete Carroll is one.

Any thoughts on this issue? Maybe a mix of both is idea?
Hoodies  
Pepe LePugh : 1/12/2018 7:29 am : link
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Whichever commands a locker room best  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2018 7:31 am : link
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Surly and unfriendly works best if you are winning.  
Ivan15 : 1/12/2018 8:31 am : link
Imagine how much love the Boston beat writers would be giving Billy B if the Patriots were playing like the Browns.
RE: Hoodies  
exiled : 1/12/2018 8:34 am : link
Tom Landry's sport coat and fedora? Classy.
This style is a winner.  
Beezer : 1/12/2018 8:35 am : link
RE: Surly and unfriendly works best if you are winning.  
exiled : 1/12/2018 8:45 am : link
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Imagine how much love the Boston beat writers would be giving Billy B if the Patriots were playing like the Browns.


I don't know. Boston loves its teams and win or lose. (Not that Boston has witnessed any Browns-level play any time recently.) Fans get disappointed, but not pissed off, not BBI-level pissed off. I feel like the media is different up here, less aggressive. The press actually seems intimidated by BB.
Surely and unfriendly  
Simms11 : 1/12/2018 9:25 am : link
wears on players too. It’s fine for a while, but the act gets old fairly quick. I think tough, but fair is the best approach. Also the guy has to know which buttons to push, like Parcells.
A good HC has to be someone  
mrvax : 1/12/2018 9:44 am : link
you trust and respect where you'd do anything for him. In the USMC you have several drill instructors and 1 senior drill instructor.

The senior drill instructor is less of a mean prick and allows you a little tiny bit of slack. You come to really appreciate the guy being around. However, if you piss off the senior drill instructor, kiss your ass good-bye.

Great leader.
There is no "best" style  
David B. : 1/12/2018 10:24 am : link
Coaches of all styles have been successful, and unsuccessful.
RE: Surly and unfriendly works best if you are winning.  
BigBlueinChicago : 1/12/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 13784268 Ivan15 said:
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Imagine how much love the Boston beat writers would be giving Billy B if the Patriots were playing like the Browns.


I hate this argument because of its obviousness.

Bill came in there. In his second year, he won the Super Bowl (in a shock to many). Two years later, the Patriots won again. And the year after that, they won again.

So before you one could realize he was a cold-hearted, surly, unfriendly person (he probably was all this beforehand but no one really paid attention), he already had three championships in the bank in 5 years at work. Based on that, he got the equivalent of what an 800+ credit score gets many people in the world.

When you win, do it as quickly as he did, and then add to it with more championships and a high consistency of performance on a yearly basis(you don't see any 3-13's dropped in there), you get to dictate terms.

Why is this a hard concept for some to understand? This is why the coaches in other sports who try to be like him without winning first (I guess they think they have to portray that persona) always baffles me.

It seems like some people want all the winning AND have the Joe Torre personality at the same time. History shows however he is the exception.
Strict vs Players coach is too simple  
Reale01 : 1/12/2018 12:26 pm : link
A ideal coach must be:
Smart, Fair, Consistent, Accountable, Decisive, Organized, inspirational, resilient, a leader

They will not be: Stubborn, arrogant, thin skinned, mean spirited, aloof, insecure, or self-centered.

What they are not is almost as important as what they are.

IMO McAdoo was smart, decisive, and organized. He may have been fair. He was not consistent, accountable, inspirational, resilient, or a leader.

He was not mean spirited. He was stubborn, arrogant, thin skinned, aloof, insecure, and self centered.

IMO TC was was smart, decisive, organized, fair, consistent, accountable, inspirational, resilient, and a leader.

He was not mean spirited, arrogant, insecure, or self centered. He was stubborn and thin skinned.

Winning  
Alwaysblue22 : 1/12/2018 2:39 pm : link
That is the style that best suits a HC.... He has to WIN. Does not matter if the media likes him or not. I laugh when I hear that a head coach has to have a media personality except for Belichick because he aways wins. Well that is the answer...WINNING.
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